hello --

i bought a new computer (dell optiplex 330) in dec, 2008, with a
configuration called "vista premium downgrade relationship." basically, what
this means is that the computer came with XP/SP3 installed but that i have a
separate disk that will install vista instead if i decide i want to (i can't
remember if it uninstalls the XP or exactly what happens with the XP if i do
switch to vista).

what i haven't been able to figure out from the articles that i have read is
whether, with programs that will be available either now or when win7 is
formally released, i can upgrade to win7 --
(1) directly from my currently-installed XP, or
(2) by switching from XP to vista by means of the vista installation disk
that i have, and then upgrading to win7 from there, or
(3) either one, and if so which route is the least hassle and the least
likely to bollix up my computer.

or maybe i should start from scratch -- scrap both XP and vista from this
computer, and just install a clean win7?

does anyone know about this issue?

thanks -- susie margaret

Vista will be a valid Upgrade path to Win7 but not WinXP. If you restore
the machine to Vista, you can purchase & use an Win7 Upgrade. If you're
still running WinXP, you'd have to purchase a retail version of Win7 and do
a clean install.

cf.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/15993...rade_path.html


susie margaret wrote:
> hello --
>
> i bought a new computer (dell optiplex 330) in dec, 2008, with a
> configuration called "vista premium downgrade relationship." basically,
> what
> this means is that the computer came with XP/SP3 installed but that i have
> a
> separate disk that will install vista instead if i decide i want to (i
> can't
> remember if it uninstalls the XP or exactly what happens with the XP if i
> do
> switch to vista).
>
> what i haven't been able to figure out from the articles that i have read
> is
> whether, with programs that will be available either now or when win7 is
> formally released, i can upgrade to win7 --
> (1) directly from my currently-installed XP, or
> (2) by switching from XP to vista by means of the vista installation disk
> that i have, and then upgrading to win7 from there, or
> (3) either one, and if so which route is the least hassle and the least
> likely to bollix up my computer.
>
> or maybe i should start from scratch -- scrap both XP and vista from this
> computer, and just install a clean win7?
>
> does anyone know about this issue?
>
> thanks -- susie margaret

hello, prof. bear --

thanks for your reply. do you recommend one path over the other, or does it
matter? i.e., going from XP to vista, then to win7 OR scratching XP
altogether and putting in a clean win7?

thanks very much -- susie margaret



"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Vista will be a valid Upgrade path to Win7 but not WinXP. If you restore
> the machine to Vista, you can purchase & use an Win7 Upgrade. If you're
> still running WinXP, you'd have to purchase a retail version of Win7 and do
> a clean install.
>
> cf.
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/15993...rade_path.html
>
>
>
> susie margaret wrote:
> > hello --
> >
> > i bought a new computer (dell optiplex 330) in dec, 2008, with a
> > configuration called "vista premium downgrade relationship." basically,
> > what
> > this means is that the computer came with XP/SP3 installed but that i have
> > a
> > separate disk that will install vista instead if i decide i want to (i
> > can't
> > remember if it uninstalls the XP or exactly what happens with the XP if i
> > do
> > switch to vista).
> >
> > what i haven't been able to figure out from the articles that i have read
> > is
> > whether, with programs that will be available either now or when win7 is
> > formally released, i can upgrade to win7 --
> > (1) directly from my currently-installed XP, or
> > (2) by switching from XP to vista by means of the vista installation disk
> > that i have, and then upgrading to win7 from there, or
> > (3) either one, and if so which route is the least hassle and the least
> > likely to bollix up my computer.
> >
> > or maybe i should start from scratch -- scrap both XP and vista from this
> > computer, and just install a clean win7?
> >
> > does anyone know about this issue?
> >
> > thanks -- susie margaret
>
>

"susie margaret" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:24490575-4020-4443-A286-(E-Mail Removed)...

> i bought a new computer (dell optiplex 330) in dec, 2008, with a
> configuration called "vista premium downgrade relationship." basically,
what
> this means is that the computer came with XP/SP3 installed but that i have
a
> separate disk that will install vista instead if i decide i want to . . .
> or maybe i should start from scratch -- scrap both XP and vista from this
> computer, and just install a clean win7?

Choice of a PC Operating System should be directed by:
1. Peripherals such as printers, hi-fi sound systems etc.:
which OS do these require?
2. Custom software i.e. the programs you choose to use
whether for accounting, genealogy, photo editing etc.:
which OS do these require?
If you now have a PC that runs all your hardware OK and
does all your tasks, there is no need to change the OS
until/unless something changes. (Your requirements may
change: or some new type of malware penetrates your
anti-virus protection or firewall. But there is no point fretting
about such possibilities before the threat actually appears.)

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

A double-upgrade ( XP-Vista-Seven ) doesn't seem to be a very high
probability success migration. I've tested this scenario and Seven would
not upgrade the immediately upgraded XP-to-Vista. (Results vary).

Just to avoid issues, I'd use the Easy Transfer Wizard to capture your
settings/data from XP and do a fresh install of Seven. ( Average install
time of a fresh Seven is around 23 Minutes! )

"susie margaret" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:8C1363E0-36C1-4B5F-8CF1-(E-Mail Removed)...
> hello, prof. bear --
>
> thanks for your reply. do you recommend one path over the other, or does
> it
> matter? i.e., going from XP to vista, then to win7 OR scratching XP
> altogether and putting in a clean win7?
>
> thanks very much -- susie margaret
>
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Vista will be a valid Upgrade path to Win7 but not WinXP. If you restore
>> the machine to Vista, you can purchase & use an Win7 Upgrade. If you're
>> still running WinXP, you'd have to purchase a retail version of Win7 and
>> do
>> a clean install.
>>
>> cf.
>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/15993...rade_path.html
>>
>>
>>
>> susie margaret wrote:
>> > hello --
>> >
>> > i bought a new computer (dell optiplex 330) in dec, 2008, with a
>> > configuration called "vista premium downgrade relationship." basically,
>> > what
>> > this means is that the computer came with XP/SP3 installed but that i
>> > have
>> > a
>> > separate disk that will install vista instead if i decide i want to (i
>> > can't
>> > remember if it uninstalls the XP or exactly what happens with the XP if
>> > i
>> > do
>> > switch to vista).
>> >
>> > what i haven't been able to figure out from the articles that i have
>> > read
>> > is
>> > whether, with programs that will be available either now or when win7
>> > is
>> > formally released, i can upgrade to win7 --
>> > (1) directly from my currently-installed XP, or
>> > (2) by switching from XP to vista by means of the vista installation
>> > disk
>> > that i have, and then upgrading to win7 from there, or
>> > (3) either one, and if so which route is the least hassle and the least
>> > likely to bollix up my computer.
>> >
>> > or maybe i should start from scratch -- scrap both XP and vista from
>> > this
>> > computer, and just install a clean win7?
>> >
>> > does anyone know about this issue?
>> >
>> > thanks -- susie margaret
>>
>>

hi --

well, then, do you have a sense of which would be "better" (easier/less
hassle/safer for the computer) --
(1) to upgrade from XP to vista, then upgrade again from vista to win7 --
does that require backing up or, or
(2) to scratch both XP and vista, and just install a clean win7?

-- susie margaret


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Vista will be a valid Upgrade path to Win7 but not WinXP. If you restore
> the machine to Vista, you can purchase & use an Win7 Upgrade. If you're
> still running WinXP, you'd have to purchase a retail version of Win7 and do
> a clean install.
>
> cf.
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/15993...rade_path.html
>
>
> susie margaret wrote:
> > hello --
> >
> > i bought a new computer (dell optiplex 330) in dec, 2008, with a
> > configuration called "vista premium downgrade relationship." basically,
> > what
> > this means is that the computer came with XP/SP3 installed but that i have
> > a
> > separate disk that will install vista instead if i decide i want to (i
> > can't
> > remember if it uninstalls the XP or exactly what happens with the XP if i
> > do
> > switch to vista).
> >
> > what i haven't been able to figure out from the articles that i have read
> > is
> > whether, with programs that will be available either now or when win7 is
> > formally released, i can upgrade to win7 --
> > (1) directly from my currently-installed XP, or
> > (2) by switching from XP to vista by means of the vista installation disk
> > that i have, and then upgrading to win7 from there, or
> > (3) either one, and if so which route is the least hassle and the least
> > likely to bollix up my computer.
> >
> > or maybe i should start from scratch -- scrap both XP and vista from this
> > computer, and just install a clean win7?
> >
> > does anyone know about this issue?
> >
> > thanks -- susie margaret
>
>

It really seems strange MS does not allow upgrading from XP. Do they REALLY
think their sales will be what's expected when MULTITUDES of people using XP
will have to disregard ALL the work they did setting up their PC with XP and
do a FORMAT, FRESH INSTALL of 7?

Would it seem sensible to the MULTITUDES of BUSINESSES and GOVERNMENTS
already setup with XP to have to FORMAT and do a fresh install of Win7? Has
MS lost their mind? Unless I'm missing something, seems to me they did!
___

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
> Vista will be a valid Upgrade path to Win7 but not WinXP. If you restore
> the machine to Vista, you can purchase & use an Win7 Upgrade. If you're
> still running WinXP, you'd have to purchase a retail version of Win7 and
> do a clean install.
>
> cf.
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/15993...rade_path.html
>
>
> susie margaret wrote:
>> hello --
>>
>> i bought a new computer (dell optiplex 330) in dec, 2008, with a
>> configuration called "vista premium downgrade relationship." basically,
>> what
>> this means is that the computer came with XP/SP3 installed but that i
>> have a
>> separate disk that will install vista instead if i decide i want to (i
>> can't
>> remember if it uninstalls the XP or exactly what happens with the XP if i
>> do
>> switch to vista).
>>
>> what i haven't been able to figure out from the articles that i have read
>> is
>> whether, with programs that will be available either now or when win7 is
>> formally released, i can upgrade to win7 --
>> (1) directly from my currently-installed XP, or
>> (2) by switching from XP to vista by means of the vista installation disk
>> that i have, and then upgrading to win7 from there, or
>> (3) either one, and if so which route is the least hassle and the least
>> likely to bollix up my computer.
>>
>> or maybe i should start from scratch -- scrap both XP and vista from this
>> computer, and just install a clean win7?
>>
>> does anyone know about this issue?
>>
>> thanks -- susie margaret
>

Option 2 would be better because you would have a "clean' installation with
no remnants of either XP or Vista.
However you would lose the programs that came with your computer purchase.
Everything would need to be reinstalled and most preconfigured systems have
those programs as part of their
Recovery set with no way to install them separately

peter

--
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or disruptive,please ignore it.
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to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate :-)

"susie margaret" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:B90D4011-56E7-454A-AEFB-(E-Mail Removed)...
> hi --
>
> well, then, do you have a sense of which would be "better" (easier/less
> hassle/safer for the computer) --
> (1) to upgrade from XP to vista, then upgrade again from vista to win7 --
> does that require backing up or, or
> (2) to scratch both XP and vista, and just install a clean win7?
>
> -- susie margaret
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Vista will be a valid Upgrade path to Win7 but not WinXP. If you restore
>> the machine to Vista, you can purchase & use an Win7 Upgrade. If you're
>> still running WinXP, you'd have to purchase a retail version of Win7 and
>> do
>> a clean install.
>>
>> cf.
>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/15993...rade_path.html
>>
>>
>> susie margaret wrote:
>> > hello --
>> >
>> > i bought a new computer (dell optiplex 330) in dec, 2008, with a
>> > configuration called "vista premium downgrade relationship." basically,
>> > what
>> > this means is that the computer came with XP/SP3 installed but that i
>> > have
>> > a
>> > separate disk that will install vista instead if i decide i want to (i
>> > can't
>> > remember if it uninstalls the XP or exactly what happens with the XP if
>> > i
>> > do
>> > switch to vista).
>> >
>> > what i haven't been able to figure out from the articles that i have
>> > read
>> > is
>> > whether, with programs that will be available either now or when win7
>> > is
>> > formally released, i can upgrade to win7 --
>> > (1) directly from my currently-installed XP, or
>> > (2) by switching from XP to vista by means of the vista installation
>> > disk
>> > that i have, and then upgrading to win7 from there, or
>> > (3) either one, and if so which route is the least hassle and the least
>> > likely to bollix up my computer.
>> >
>> > or maybe i should start from scratch -- scrap both XP and vista from
>> > this
>> > computer, and just install a clean win7?
>> >
>> > does anyone know about this issue?
>> >
>> > thanks -- susie margaret
>>
>>

In-Place Upgrade Windows XP to Windows 7
http://www.pagestart.com/upgradexptowindows7.html

The object of an "In-Place Upgrade" is to keep all your XP applications,
user accounts, data files and not be
forced to start with a clean install of Windows 7. Keep in mind a lot of XP
applications are not Vista compatible
and it will take time for patches or application upgrades become available
after the official release of Windows 7.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com


"susie margaret" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:24490575-4020-4443-A286-(E-Mail Removed)...
> hello --
>
> i bought a new computer (dell optiplex 330) in dec, 2008, with a
> configuration called "vista premium downgrade relationship." basically,
> what
> this means is that the computer came with XP/SP3 installed but that i have
> a
> separate disk that will install vista instead if i decide i want to (i
> can't
> remember if it uninstalls the XP or exactly what happens with the XP if i
> do
> switch to vista).
>
> what i haven't been able to figure out from the articles that i have read
> is
> whether, with programs that will be available either now or when win7 is
> formally released, i can upgrade to win7 --
> (1) directly from my currently-installed XP, or
> (2) by switching from XP to vista by means of the vista installation disk
> that i have, and then upgrading to win7 from there, or
> (3) either one, and if so which route is the least hassle and the least
> likely to bollix up my computer.
>
> or maybe i should start from scratch -- scrap both XP and vista from this
> computer, and just install a clean win7?
>
> does anyone know about this issue?
>
> thanks -- susie margaret
>
>

"Don Phillipson" wrote:

> "susie margaret" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:24490575-4020-4443-A286-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> > i bought a new computer (dell optiplex 330) in dec, 2008, with a
> > configuration called "vista premium downgrade relationship." basically,
> what
> > this means is that the computer came with XP/SP3 installed but that i have
> a
> > separate disk that will install vista instead if i decide i want to . . .
> > or maybe i should start from scratch -- scrap both XP and vista from this
> > computer, and just install a clean win7?
>
>
>
> Choice of a PC Operating System should be directed by:
> 1. Peripherals such as printers, hi-fi sound systems etc.:
> which OS do these require?
>
> 2. Custom software i.e. the programs you choose to use
> whether for accounting, genealogy, photo editing etc.:
> which OS do these require?
>
> If you now have a PC that runs all your hardware OK and
> does all your tasks, there is no need to change the OS
> until/unless something changes. (Your requirements may
> change: or some new type of malware penetrates your
> anti-virus protection or firewall. But there is no point fretting
> about such possibilities before the threat actually appears.)
>
> Don Phillipson
> Carlsbad Springs
> (Ottawa, Canada)



dear professor phillipson --

all things in the fullness of time, i guess. thanks for your reply.

-- susie margaret