Ticking or clicking sound in playback

There is a ticking or clicking sound in playback in Movie Maker and when
recorded to VCD at a certain pitch. There is audio and music involved.

I did try to redo the capturing of video and sometimes it will get rid of
the ticking. It does not make that sound while the video is being captured.
The sound is annoying and ruins a good video.

Does anyone know why it does that and how to rectify the problem?
Thank you for your help.

Hello,

Short of an electrical fault, there is a good chance your microphone is picking
up the noise from the tape drive/motor....you would notice it if the recording
is taking place in a very quiet environment......DO NOT try to clean or
otherwise touch in any way the internal workings of the camera....one possible
solution would be to purchase higher quality tapes and to run a head cleaner in
the camera on a regular basis...I do that after every two hours of tape
roughly.

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www.the-kellys.org
www.the-kellys.co.uk
Check out free video hosting at www.the-kellys.org
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The audio/music was recorded from the camcorder. There was not an external
microphone involved in any the processes.

I have the camcorder plugged into a surge protector.

I tried using the high resolution option in the capture process but the
ticking or clicking sound in playback is still there...just a little fainter.

In response to cleaning the heads, I have a Sony DCR-TRV460 Digital8
camcorder. I've used two Sony MP120 tapes and the balance were metal tapes.
Two of the metal tapes are Hi8. Hours used including capture time is
approximately 10 hours.
I have not touched or tried to clean the inside workings.

The operations guide does not recommend how often to clean the heads. Other
than it gives examples when heads are dirty and to use a cleaning cassette.
(I've heard previously that cleaning heads on any equipment too often will
cause the heads to wear out prematurely.)

What do you consider higher quality tapes?

Do you have further suggestions???
Thank you for your help.



"John Kelly" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Short of an electrical fault, there is a good chance your microphone is picking
> up the noise from the tape drive/motor....you would notice it if the recording
> is taking place in a very quiet environment......DO NOT try to clean or
> otherwise touch in any way the internal workings of the camera....one possible
> solution would be to purchase higher quality tapes and to run a head cleaner in
> the camera on a regular basis...I do that after every two hours of tape
> roughly.
>
> --
> Best Wishes.....John Kelly
> www.the-kellys.org
> www.the-kellys.co.uk
> Check out free video hosting at www.the-kellys.org
> ----
> \|||/
> (oo)
> ----------ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------
> All material gained from other sources is duly acknowledged. No Value is
> obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work
>

Hello,

I was not suggesting that you were using an external Mic. I was saying
that the Mic could have been picking up the noise from the camera....I
said...

>there is a good chance your microphone is picking
>up the noise from the tape drive/motor

As far as what is a better tape is goes.......it was meant to be a
polite way of saying that if you were using cheap tapes go get some better
ones.. If you have never noticed with audio cassette tapes there are cheap
internal mechanisms and there are those that are better....anti squeal
devices, rollers instead of fixed pegs etc etc etc

--
Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
www.the-kellys.co.uk
Check out free video hosting at www.the-kellys.org
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obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work

"Mickey" <Mickey@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:74ED70CE-CF63-4668-9DC1-63E5D1E2F02F@microsoft.com...
> The audio/music was recorded from the camcorder. There was not an external
> microphone involved in any the processes.
>
> I have the camcorder plugged into a surge protector.
>
> I tried using the high resolution option in the capture process but the
> ticking or clicking sound in playback is still there...just a little
> fainter.
>
> In response to cleaning the heads, I have a Sony DCR-TRV460 Digital8
> camcorder. I've used two Sony MP120 tapes and the balance were metal
> tapes.
> Two of the metal tapes are Hi8. Hours used including capture time is
> approximately 10 hours.
> I have not touched or tried to clean the inside workings.
>
> The operations guide does not recommend how often to clean the heads.
> Other
> than it gives examples when heads are dirty and to use a cleaning
> cassette.
> (I've heard previously that cleaning heads on any equipment too often will
> cause the heads to wear out prematurely.)
>
> What do you consider higher quality tapes?
>
> Do you have further suggestions???
> Thank you for your help.
>
>
>
> "John Kelly" wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Short of an electrical fault, there is a good chance your microphone is
>> picking
>> up the noise from the tape drive/motor....you would notice it if the
>> recording
>> is taking place in a very quiet environment......DO NOT try to clean or
>> otherwise touch in any way the internal workings of the camera....one
>> possible
>> solution would be to purchase higher quality tapes and to run a head
>> cleaner in
>> the camera on a regular basis...I do that after every two hours of tape
>> roughly.
>>
>> --
>> Best Wishes.....John Kelly
>> www.the-kellys.org
>> www.the-kellys.co.uk
>> Check out free video hosting at www.the-kellys.org
>> ----
>> \|||/
>> (oo)
>> ----------ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------
>> All material gained from other sources is duly acknowledged. No Value is
>> obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work
>>

I am using a USB cable. Would a firewire help instead?
Thank you for your help.

"John Kelly" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I was not suggesting that you were using an external Mic. I was saying
> that the Mic could have been picking up the noise from the camera....I
> said...
>
> >there is a good chance your microphone is picking
> >up the noise from the tape drive/motor
>
> As far as what is a better tape is goes.......it was meant to be a
> polite way of saying that if you were using cheap tapes go get some better
> ones.. If you have never noticed with audio cassette tapes there are cheap
> internal mechanisms and there are those that are better....anti squeal
> devices, rollers instead of fixed pegs etc etc etc
>
> --
> Best Wishes.....John Kelly
> www.the-kellys.org
> www.the-kellys.co.uk
> Check out free video hosting at www.the-kellys.org
> ----
> \|||/
> (oo)
> ----------ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------
> All material gained from other sources is duly acknowledged. No Value is
> obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work
>
> "Mickey" <Mickey@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:74ED70CE-CF63-4668-9DC1-63E5D1E2F02F@microsoft.com...
> > The audio/music was recorded from the camcorder. There was not an external
> > microphone involved in any the processes.
> >
> > I have the camcorder plugged into a surge protector.
> >
> > I tried using the high resolution option in the capture process but the
> > ticking or clicking sound in playback is still there...just a little
> > fainter.
> >
> > In response to cleaning the heads, I have a Sony DCR-TRV460 Digital8
> > camcorder. I've used two Sony MP120 tapes and the balance were metal
> > tapes.
> > Two of the metal tapes are Hi8. Hours used including capture time is
> > approximately 10 hours.
> > I have not touched or tried to clean the inside workings.
> >
> > The operations guide does not recommend how often to clean the heads.
> > Other
> > than it gives examples when heads are dirty and to use a cleaning
> > cassette.
> > (I've heard previously that cleaning heads on any equipment too often will
> > cause the heads to wear out prematurely.)
> >
> > What do you consider higher quality tapes?
> >
> > Do you have further suggestions???
> > Thank you for your help.
> >
> >
> >
> > "John Kelly" wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Short of an electrical fault, there is a good chance your microphone is
> >> picking
> >> up the noise from the tape drive/motor....you would notice it if the
> >> recording
> >> is taking place in a very quiet environment......DO NOT try to clean or
> >> otherwise touch in any way the internal workings of the camera....one
> >> possible
> >> solution would be to purchase higher quality tapes and to run a head
> >> cleaner in
> >> the camera on a regular basis...I do that after every two hours of tape
> >> roughly.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best Wishes.....John Kelly
> >> www.the-kellys.org
> >> www.the-kellys.co.uk
> >> Check out free video hosting at www.the-kellys.org
> >> ----
> >> \|||/
> >> (oo)
> >> ----------ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------
> >> All material gained from other sources is duly acknowledged. No Value is
> >> obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work
> >>
>
>
>

Hello,

As far as transferring to computer is concerned you should always use a
firewire (iLink).

Are you now saying that the defect in the audio is only after
transferring to the computer or as I had perhaps wrongly assumed was
actually on the camera's audio track?

If the fault is on the tape prior to transfer then my previous comments
still apply.

--
Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
www.the-kellys.co.uk
Check out free video hosting at www.the-kellys.org
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All material gained from other sources is duly acknowledged. No Value is
obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work
"Mickey" <Mickey@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:79FAD5C7-5D97-4350-97F6-14E5207E0A17@microsoft.com...
>I am using a USB cable. Would a firewire help instead?
> Thank you for your help.
>
> "John Kelly" wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I was not suggesting that you were using an external Mic. I was
>> saying
>> that the Mic could have been picking up the noise from the camera....I
>> said...
>>
>> >there is a good chance your microphone is picking
>> >up the noise from the tape drive/motor
>>
>> As far as what is a better tape is goes.......it was meant to be a
>> polite way of saying that if you were using cheap tapes go get some
>> better
>> ones.. If you have never noticed with audio cassette tapes there are
>> cheap
>> internal mechanisms and there are those that are better....anti squeal
>> devices, rollers instead of fixed pegs etc etc etc
>>
>> --
>> Best Wishes.....John Kelly
>> www.the-kellys.org
>> www.the-kellys.co.uk
>> Check out free video hosting at www.the-kellys.org
>> ----
>> \|||/
>> (oo)
>> ----------ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------
>> All material gained from other sources is duly acknowledged. No Value is
>> obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work
>>
>> "Mickey" <Mickey@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:74ED70CE-CF63-4668-9DC1-63E5D1E2F02F@microsoft.com...
>> > The audio/music was recorded from the camcorder. There was not an
>> > external
>> > microphone involved in any the processes.
>> >
>> > I have the camcorder plugged into a surge protector.
>> >
>> > I tried using the high resolution option in the capture process but the
>> > ticking or clicking sound in playback is still there...just a little
>> > fainter.
>> >
>> > In response to cleaning the heads, I have a Sony DCR-TRV460 Digital8
>> > camcorder. I've used two Sony MP120 tapes and the balance were metal
>> > tapes.
>> > Two of the metal tapes are Hi8. Hours used including capture time is
>> > approximately 10 hours.
>> > I have not touched or tried to clean the inside workings.
>> >
>> > The operations guide does not recommend how often to clean the heads.
>> > Other
>> > than it gives examples when heads are dirty and to use a cleaning
>> > cassette.
>> > (I've heard previously that cleaning heads on any equipment too often
>> > will
>> > cause the heads to wear out prematurely.)
>> >
>> > What do you consider higher quality tapes?
>> >
>> > Do you have further suggestions???
>> > Thank you for your help.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "John Kelly" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> Short of an electrical fault, there is a good chance your microphone
>> >> is
>> >> picking
>> >> up the noise from the tape drive/motor....you would notice it if the
>> >> recording
>> >> is taking place in a very quiet environment......DO NOT try to clean
>> >> or
>> >> otherwise touch in any way the internal workings of the camera....one
>> >> possible
>> >> solution would be to purchase higher quality tapes and to run a head
>> >> cleaner in
>> >> the camera on a regular basis...I do that after every two hours of
>> >> tape
>> >> roughly.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Best Wishes.....John Kelly
>> >> www.the-kellys.org
>> >> www.the-kellys.co.uk
>> >> Check out free video hosting at www.the-kellys.org
>> >> ----
>> >> \|||/
>> >> (oo)
>> >> ----------ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------
>> >> All material gained from other sources is duly acknowledged. No Value
>> >> is
>> >> obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

In my first inquiry, I did mention that it does not make that sound while the
video is being captured. Meaning...the defect in the audio is only after
transferring to the computer. I apologize if I did not explain it clearly.

If we should always use a firewire, why do product mfg's include only a USB
cable?
Thank you for your help.

"John Kelly" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> As far as transferring to computer is concerned you should always use a
> firewire (iLink).
>
> Are you now saying that the defect in the audio is only after
> transferring to the computer or as I had perhaps wrongly assumed was
> actually on the camera's audio track?
>
> If the fault is on the tape prior to transfer then my previous comments
> still apply.
>
> --
> Best Wishes.....John Kelly
> www.the-kellys.org
> www.the-kellys.co.uk
> Check out free video hosting at www.the-kellys.org
> ----
> \|||/
> (oo)
> ----------ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------
> All material gained from other sources is duly acknowledged. No Value is
> obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work
> "Mickey" <Mickey@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:79FAD5C7-5D97-4350-97F6-14E5207E0A17@microsoft.com...
> >I am using a USB cable. Would a firewire help instead?
> > Thank you for your help.
> >
> > "John Kelly" wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I was not suggesting that you were using an external Mic. I was
> >> saying
> >> that the Mic could have been picking up the noise from the camera....I
> >> said...
> >>
> >> >there is a good chance your microphone is picking
> >> >up the noise from the tape drive/motor
> >>
> >> As far as what is a better tape is goes.......it was meant to be a
> >> polite way of saying that if you were using cheap tapes go get some
> >> better
> >> ones.. If you have never noticed with audio cassette tapes there are
> >> cheap
> >> internal mechanisms and there are those that are better....anti squeal
> >> devices, rollers instead of fixed pegs etc etc etc
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best Wishes.....John Kelly
> >> www.the-kellys.org
> >> www.the-kellys.co.uk
> >> Check out free video hosting at www.the-kellys.org
> >> ----
> >> \|||/
> >> (oo)
> >> ----------ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------
> >> All material gained from other sources is duly acknowledged. No Value is
> >> obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work
> >>
> >> "Mickey" <Mickey@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:74ED70CE-CF63-4668-9DC1-63E5D1E2F02F@microsoft.com...
> >> > The audio/music was recorded from the camcorder. There was not an
> >> > external
> >> > microphone involved in any the processes.
> >> >
> >> > I have the camcorder plugged into a surge protector.
> >> >
> >> > I tried using the high resolution option in the capture process but the
> >> > ticking or clicking sound in playback is still there...just a little
> >> > fainter.
> >> >
> >> > In response to cleaning the heads, I have a Sony DCR-TRV460 Digital8
> >> > camcorder. I've used two Sony MP120 tapes and the balance were metal
> >> > tapes.
> >> > Two of the metal tapes are Hi8. Hours used including capture time is
> >> > approximately 10 hours.
> >> > I have not touched or tried to clean the inside workings.
> >> >
> >> > The operations guide does not recommend how often to clean the heads.
> >> > Other
> >> > than it gives examples when heads are dirty and to use a cleaning
> >> > cassette.
> >> > (I've heard previously that cleaning heads on any equipment too often
> >> > will
> >> > cause the heads to wear out prematurely.)
> >> >
> >> > What do you consider higher quality tapes?
> >> >
> >> > Do you have further suggestions???
> >> > Thank you for your help.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "John Kelly" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hello,
> >> >>
> >> >> Short of an electrical fault, there is a good chance your microphone
> >> >> is
> >> >> picking
> >> >> up the noise from the tape drive/motor....you would notice it if the
> >> >> recording
> >> >> is taking place in a very quiet environment......DO NOT try to clean
> >> >> or
> >> >> otherwise touch in any way the internal workings of the camera....one
> >> >> possible
> >> >> solution would be to purchase higher quality tapes and to run a head
> >> >> cleaner in
> >> >> the camera on a regular basis...I do that after every two hours of
> >> >> tape
> >> >> roughly.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Best Wishes.....John Kelly
> >> >> www.the-kellys.org
> >> >> www.the-kellys.co.uk
> >> >> Check out free video hosting at www.the-kellys.org
> >> >> ----
> >> >> \|||/
> >> >> (oo)
> >> >> ----------ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------
> >> >> All material gained from other sources is duly acknowledged. No Value
> >> >> is
> >> >> obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

"Mickey" <Mickey@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

> In my first inquiry, I did mention that it does not make that sound while
> the
> video is being captured. Meaning...the defect in the audio is only after
> transferring to the computer. I apologize if I did not explain it clearly.

Are you using both the audio from the camera *and*
adding tracks, such as music from CD, etc.? If so, see
my earlier post about "Ticks, clicks..."; it may be of help.

> If we should always use a firewire, why do product mfg's include only a
> USB
> cable?

I don't know. Are you sure your camera is equipped
with Firewire? It also goes by the names iLink or
IEEE 1394. Check your documentation for any mention
of those terms.
..

Hello,


On 9-Dec-2004, =?Utf-8?B?TWlja2V5?= <Mickey@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> In my first inquiry, I did mention that it does not make that sound while the
> video is being captured. Meaning...the defect in the audio is only after
> transferring to the computer. I apologize if I did not explain it clearly.

I missed that...no problem

> If we should always use a firewire, why do product mfg's include only a USB
> cable?
> Thank you for your help.

Ah well, what time of day is it My DV camera a Canon, came with a Firewire
Card and Cable as did both of the cameras purchased by my two sons
recently...one from the USA and the other in France. I don't know if its a
matter of cost or not My sons cameras are both several versions later than mine
and they still got the Firewire kit. I think both of their cameras have USB for
the still images but no USB cable.

I recently purchased two DVD Dual Layer burners...they were OEM which means
they are usualy supplied to a manufacturer to be fitted into new machines...the
manufacturer supplies all of the support/software...there is no support or
software in the boxes I received because of that....but I did pay a reasonably
low price for them.

But, to your problem. You simply cannot capture DV-AVI quality video with a USB
cable. The reason is that USB apparently cannot sustain the data rate whereas
Firewire can. YYou will notice, I am sure, a significantly better captured file
once you get the card and cable.

If after that you still have this problem, do come back and say so.

--
Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
www.the-kellys.co.uk
Check out free video hosting at www.the-kellys.org
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\|||/
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----------ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------
All material gained from other sources is duly acknowledged. No Value is
obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work

A USB cable always fits the camcorder and computer.... a firewire cable
could be connected to a 4 pin connector on a laptop or a 6 pin one on a
desktop... so they would have to include two cables... and the cables are
the most expensive part of the firewire setup.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
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Photo Story 3 - use the menu branch at www.papajohn.org

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"Jeffraham Prestonian" <jeffraham@com-diddley-castaway.net> wrote in message
news:uOidnQfj9bX1TyXcRVn-tA@comcast.com...
> "Mickey" <Mickey@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>
>> In my first inquiry, I did mention that it does not make that sound while
>> the
>> video is being captured. Meaning...the defect in the audio is only after
>> transferring to the computer. I apologize if I did not explain it
>> clearly.
>
> Are you using both the audio from the camera *and*
> adding tracks, such as music from CD, etc.? If so, see
> my earlier post about "Ticks, clicks..."; it may be of help.
>
>> If we should always use a firewire, why do product mfg's include only a
>> USB
>> cable?
>
> I don't know. Are you sure your camera is equipped
> with Firewire? It also goes by the names iLink or
> IEEE 1394. Check your documentation for any mention
> of those terms.
> .
>