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Old 14-03-2004, 03:18 AM   #1
Rob
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I think this may have been asked in the past.

I am trying to do a picture in picture with one movie playing in the
top right hand corner of the other, with no fading etc.
I have:
- used virtualdub to reduce the movie size and cast it with a blue
background
- used the croma transition (from Papajohn's site and originally from
this group?)to make the blue tranparent - this works really well!

But the movie plays in the centre of the page. I cant find either an
MM transition or a vdub filter that will allow me to move the actual
movie to the top right of a screen.

I am not competent with either xml or c++ so would not be able to
create directx instructions myself.

Does anyone know of anything I can use - either freeware or commercial
that will do what I want in Windows Movie Maker?

TIA

Rob
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Old 14-03-2004, 04:24 AM   #2
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Rob,

I uses Virtual Dub to do it... see www.papajohn.org - the Do Amazing Things
> Part I > Chapter 2 > click on the image for the focus item


You can see that the reduced size video in Virtual Dub was in the middle,
and how I got it to play along the bottom.... let me know if I can better
word the info to help you get it from the middle to where you want it.

PapaJohn


"Rob" <rob.pugh@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> I think this may have been asked in the past.
>
> I am trying to do a picture in picture with one movie playing in the
> top right hand corner of the other, with no fading etc.
> I have:
> - used virtualdub to reduce the movie size and cast it with a blue
> background
> - used the croma transition (from Papajohn's site and originally from
> this group?)to make the blue tranparent - this works really well!
>
> But the movie plays in the centre of the page. I cant find either an
> MM transition or a vdub filter that will allow me to move the actual
> movie to the top right of a screen.
>
> I am not competent with either xml or c++ so would not be able to
> create directx instructions myself.
>
> Does anyone know of anything I can use - either freeware or commercial
> that will do what I want in Windows Movie Maker?
>
> TIA
>
> Rob



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Old 14-03-2004, 04:29 AM   #3
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In reading the page myself, I just wanted to add the note that the movement
of the video from the middle of the screen to the border I wanted it at was
by using a Pixelan Pan/Zoom effect, not by using Virtual Dub.

PapaJohn

"Rob" <rob.pugh@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> I think this may have been asked in the past.
>
> I am trying to do a picture in picture with one movie playing in the
> top right hand corner of the other, with no fading etc.
> I have:
> - used virtualdub to reduce the movie size and cast it with a blue
> background
> - used the croma transition (from Papajohn's site and originally from
> this group?)to make the blue tranparent - this works really well!
>
> But the movie plays in the centre of the page. I cant find either an
> MM transition or a vdub filter that will allow me to move the actual
> movie to the top right of a screen.
>
> I am not competent with either xml or c++ so would not be able to
> create directx instructions myself.
>
> Does anyone know of anything I can use - either freeware or commercial
> that will do what I want in Windows Movie Maker?
>
> TIA
>
> Rob



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Old 14-03-2004, 10:31 AM   #4
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Hello Rob,

Why not obtain the free copy of MovieXone and do all that you want simply
by drag and drop. Its a lot less hassle and the results are very
proffesional (You can also rotate video as if it were a plane surface in
three dimensions)

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The use of some one else's material and giving the impression you have done
it is called Plagiarism. Others name it for what it is...THEFT
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Old 14-03-2004, 02:20 PM   #5
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It seems that *the file is no longer available*... :-((

"John Kelly" <hidden@hide.away> wrote in message
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> Hello Rob,
>
> Why not obtain the free copy of MovieXone and do all that you want simply
> by drag and drop. Its a lot less hassle and the results are very
> proffesional (You can also rotate video as if it were a plane surface in
> three dimensions)
>
> --
> All the best.....John Kelly
> The use of some one else's material and giving the impression you have

done
> it is called Plagiarism. Others name it for what it is...THEFT



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Old 14-03-2004, 02:36 PM   #6
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Hi there,
"zulu" <nothere@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> It seems that *the file is no longer available*... :-((


Oh, If I can find it in my collection Do you want me to email it to you.

Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org


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Old 14-03-2004, 04:45 PM   #7
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You have mail :-)

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"John Kelly" <nospam@no.spam> wrote in message
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> Hi there,
> "zulu" <nothere@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:e34HE%23cCEHA.684@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > It seems that *the file is no longer available*... :-((

>
> Oh, If I can find it in my collection Do you want me to email it to

you.
>
> Best Wishes.....John Kelly
> www.the-kellys.org
>
>



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Old 14-03-2004, 05:10 PM   #8
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"zulu" <nothere@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> You have mail :-)


Oh yes !!! only the best here.

OK, I have found it...It is MovieXone Version 4 and it is free, so no
copyright problems for you. Its 24,426KB in size. I will put it up on my
website shortly.....problem there is that I am redesigning the site and its
not ready for upload. I will post another message here when its actually
available for you.

Best Wishes


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Old 14-03-2004, 05:35 PM   #9
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Hi there,

Rob or Zulu!!! and anyone else.........

The file is uploading to my site as I type. Watching the progress bar
its a lot slow!!! so maybe give it 10 - 15 mins from now. You will see a
button on the left hand side of the screen marked MovieXone...and get ready
for a bit of a learning curve followed by "Wow"...after that I upgraded to
MovieDV version 6....and the cost is peanuts compared to its equivelant
Adobe package.

Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org+

P.S. better make that 20 - 25mins...its going very slow indeed.


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Old 14-03-2004, 07:06 PM   #10
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You're a star! :-))

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"John Kelly" <nospam@no.spam> wrote in message
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> Hi there,
>
> Rob or Zulu!!! and anyone else.........
>
> The file is uploading to my site as I type. Watching the progress bar
> its a lot slow!!! so maybe give it 10 - 15 mins from now. You will see a
> button on the left hand side of the screen marked MovieXone...and get

ready
> for a bit of a learning curve followed by "Wow"...after that I upgraded to
> MovieDV version 6....and the cost is peanuts compared to its equivelant
> Adobe package.
>
> Best Wishes.....John Kelly
> www.the-kellys.org+
>
> P.S. better make that 20 - 25mins...its going very slow indeed.
>
>



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