Re: File sharing in XP Home

I believe booting to safe mode in Home Edition is necessary to reveal the
simple file sharing option. Designed this way to prevent the average home
user from unchecking it by mistake.

I am positive there is a VERY simple solution to this. Most likely one or
both of us are just missing that one detail from the other that will make it
all happen.

You are correct, adding a user from another system does not work in a
workgroup environment. That is why you must have matching accounts on each
machine for this to work seamlessly, or you will have to provide a valid
user/password for a user on the computer on which the share you are trying
to access resides.

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Bob Michon
Associate Expert
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"Arti Cijntje" <arti_cijntje@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I skipped ICS when I ran into it during the wizard so it's
> not enabled. Your assumption of my setup is correct:
> router/4 node hub running NAT on the inside and no extra
> config necessary.
>
> Disable Simple File Sharing failed, option not found. I
> rechecked a couple of times to be sure. I did make an old
> style share but same result. Trying to add user from the
> other pc was a baffling enterprise for XP wich it couldn't
> understand (meaning workgroups are still simple workgroups
> and clients don't know trusts)
>
> I checked services to see if anything strange was going
> on: summary of what I think is remotely related:
>
> Services:
> ICS=stopped (disabled
> Network connections= started (automatic)
> Network DDE= stopped (manual)
> Network DDE DSDM= stopped (manual)
> Network location Awareness= stopped (manual)
> RPC= started (automatic)
> RPC Locater= stopped (manual)
> Server= started (automatic)
> Workstation= started (automatic)
>
> In my opinion nothing suspicious here but correct me if
> I'm wrong.
> I've decided not to be frustrated just curious of how
> things work and what to look for. The files we need
> accessed form both machines can still be placed in the
> working share on the dutch client.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Well lets try this.
> >
> >You mention missing a simple AD, NDS or LDAP environment,
> lets help make
> >things look a little more like that and avoid the Wizard
> driven permissions
> >etc.
> >
> >Disable Simple File sharing. Open any folder on the
> machine you are trying
> >to access, Tools>Folder Options>"View" tab and scroll all
> the way down to
> >the bottom of the "Advanced settings:" section and remove
> the checkmark from
> >"Use Simple File Sharing (Recommended)". With this
> disabled, you can see
> >the normal Win2K style Security tab on any folder an see
> just what rights
> >any user has to that folder, which may help sort the
> problem out. You may
> >have to boot he system to safe mode with Home Edition to
> get to this option.
> >
> >Can you try to create another share on the system that is
> denying access and
> >see if you are denied access to that folder? If all
> works well then it is a
> >permissions/security issue with the original shared docs
> folder you created
> >
> >You mention Staying away from ICS...do you have ICS
> enabled on the system?
> >If so why? Your description indicates connection to the
> internet is via a
> >router/hub, which I assume is router and a multiport hub
> combo that connects
> >to your broadband modem to provide the internet
> connection. If this is
> >incorrect, please clarify exactly how this is set up.
> >
> >--
> >Bob Michon
> >Associate Expert
> >Expert Zone---
> http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp
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> >"Arti Cijntje" <arti_cijntje@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:05ce01c33e2c$9f43f520$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> >> I start missing a simple AD, NDS or LDAP environment ;-)
> >> I disabled fast user switching and guest account,
> assigned
> >> identical passwords to identical accounts on both
> machines
> >> to no avail.
> >> When connecting from <pcname> to <pcname02) I still get
> >> the prompt "\\...\ SharedDocs not accesible. You
> probably
> >> don't have permissions for this network resource. Please
> >> contact adm...access denied"(translated from dutch) The
> >> other way around I can acces all shares and am able to
> map
> >> the hidden shares (e.g. C$)
> >> Some details where I can imagine something might be
> amiss
> >> but am not figuring out how they're supposed to fit in
> the
> >> picture:
> >> - Machines differ in language: one is dutch and can't
> >> connect, the other is US and can acces everything. Both
> >> run SP1 and have the latest hotfixes
> >> - connection is through a cable router/hub. The hub part
> >> is said to be a layer 2 so shouldn't be smart enouugh to
> >> be the problem. XP translates the router part as a
> >> residential Gateway. This sounds like it should I guess.
> >> - When trying to share my folders I got the wizard and
> >> tried to follow instructions even though not sure why I
> >> should be paying attention to the internet part. This
> was
> >> strange compared to just sharing rightmouse>security
> etc.
> >> When I discovered the trouble i found a couple of
> articles
> >> that gave the impression I should've avoided ICS.
> >> - the dutch machine has an extra account called "ASP.Net
> >> Machine A.."
> >> - Eventvwr has failure in the audits described in
> article
> >> 305822. Checked for gpedit settings but this seems an XP
> >> pro only tool. Can this be installed on XP home?
> >> If more details needed please ask
> >>
> >> Arti Cijntje
> >>
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Disable the Guest Accounts and put passwords on any
> >> account on each system.
> >> >This is HUGE security hole that leaves a system very
> >> vulnerable to hackers.
> >> >
> >> >You say there are admin accounts on both machines. Are
> >> the user names of
> >> >these accounts EXACTLY the same? If not, make sure they
> >> are and try your
> >> >sharing again without passwords if you want, if it
> still
> >> does not work, give
> >> >the matching accounts matching passwords.
> >> >
> >> >I am thinking the reason this was not an issue before
> you
> >> installed XP on
> >> >the second system was because the enabled Guest
> accounts
> >> allowed the sharing
> >> >to happen, as Guest accounts kind of leave EVERYTHING
> >> accessible. Now that
> >> >you have XP on both, the more restrictive nature of XP
> is
> >> taking over and
> >> >causing problems.
> >> >
> >> >Let me know what happens and I will certainly follow
> up.
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Bob Michon
> >> >Associate Expert
> >> >Expert Zone---
> >> http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp
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> >> >"Arti Cijntje" <arti_cijntje@hotmail.com> wrote in
> message
> >> >news:043401c33899$a6d8e590$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> I had a peer2peer network with shares containing 2
> pc's:
> >> >> Win2kPro on one, WinXP Home on the other. Names by
> >> >> convention <pcname> and <pcname02> This config is
> >> >> connected to the internet through a hardware router
> >> >> (sitecom)
> >> >> I reinstalled the Win2K as an XP Home<pcnam02> (full
> >> >> install no upgrade and same name) and remade my share
> >> >> structure by placing the folder in the shared
> documents
> >> >> for this machine.
> >> >> Both machines have two users who are admins (no
> >> passwords)
> >> >> and guest account enabled for acces to shares. From
> this
> >> >> pc I can acces all shares on the network. The other
> way
> >> >> around (from <pcname>) I can see the sharedocs folder
> >> but
> >> >> when trying to access i get prompted for a username
> an
> >> >> password but don't get acces anyway I try.
> >> >> I tried running the network wizard but this didn't
> solve
> >> >> the problem. When looking further I found the
> following
> >> >> entry in the nws.log:
> >> >> Network Setup Wizard Log
> >> >> <i>Attempting to set computer name
> >> >> Old computer name is the same as new computer name -
> not
> >> >> setting.
> >> >> Setting server description (comment): Low Power PC
> >> >> Attempting to set workgroup name
> >> >> Workgroup name is the same as the old one - not
> setting.
> >> >> 'Shared Documents' shared.</i> wich seems to be the
> >> problem
> >> >> I need a push in the right direction to make sharing
> >> >> smooth again, all articles from MS haven't helped
> yet,
> >> >> troubleshooting guides local a dead end and forum
> sites
> >> >> send me back to MS ;-) (talk about circular
> >> developments)
> >> >> I don't mind direct mail or msn contact. sharing info
> >> with
> >> >> others in this forum is also always a good idea
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >