I want to strip down Outlook Express...

Outlook Express is required by IIS, but I'd like to remove as much of OE as
possible.

Is it better to leave OE alone while building the image and remove the OE
program files after up and running? I plan to leave all the files OE
installed in system directories.

Or

Is it better to modify OE in Target Designer to disable the OE program files
and Resources? Again, I'll leave all the files OE installs in system
directories.

Or

Don't even try. Maybe IIS depends on OE program files rather than files it
installs in system directories.

PS Microsoft: How hard would it be for you to do this? How about all the
other things a headless, userless, printer-less system drags in? I don't
have a printer port, yet I get local printing and print spooling. No user,
but I get OE. No video, kb, mouse or local devices, yet I get direct video,
direct sound, video capture, analog TV, video for windows and image capture.
Can't ignore the dependencies, because it usually breaks something we need.

--
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Mark K Vallevand Mark.Vallevand@Unisys.com

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Personally, I would leave the bits alone, and then remove shortcuts to
applications post FBA, then fbreseal. But that's just me :-)

I am not Microsoft, but what you ask for would be incredibly difficult, as
XPE=XP pro. XP Pro was not designed to be a headless OS, therefore the
design of the OS would dictate that a general purpose PC would have all of
those components installed. So to remove those components, you would have to
re-architect the OS entirely.

If you are running headless, make sure you have the null VGA component and
the System message interception components installed, or you will
undoubtedly have problems.

JMHO.

--
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BSquare Corp.
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______________________________________________________________________________
"Mark K Vallevand" <mark.vallevand@unisys.com> wrote in message
news:uZ9DQz1GFHA.3612@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Outlook Express is required by IIS, but I'd like to remove as much of OE
> as possible.
>
> Is it better to leave OE alone while building the image and remove the OE
> program files after up and running? I plan to leave all the files OE
> installed in system directories.
>
> Or
>
> Is it better to modify OE in Target Designer to disable the OE program
> files and Resources? Again, I'll leave all the files OE installs in
> system directories.
>
> Or
>
> Don't even try. Maybe IIS depends on OE program files rather than files
> it installs in system directories.
>
> PS Microsoft: How hard would it be for you to do this? How about all
> the other things a headless, userless, printer-less system drags in? I
> don't have a printer port, yet I get local printing and print spooling.
> No user, but I get OE. No video, kb, mouse or local devices, yet I get
> direct video, direct sound, video capture, analog TV, video for windows
> and image capture. Can't ignore the dependencies, because it usually
> breaks something we need.
>
> --
> Regards.
> Mark K Vallevand Mark.Vallevand@Unisys.com
>
> Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
> - Benjamin Franklin
>
>
> THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY
> MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you
> received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail
> and its attachments from all computers.
>
>
>

Well, the point was to save the gobs of space that Outlook Express takes up.

So, I did it. I disabled all files and dll registrations for any Outlook
Express file that wasn't in any common directory. So far, so good. I'll
see what the testing of the entire system (OS + Applications + WebPages)
shows up.

--
Regards.
Mark K Vallevand Mark.Vallevand@Unisys.com

Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
- Benjamin Franklin


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"JC" <JCBSQ@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:u4VzMEoHFHA.904@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Personally, I would leave the bits alone, and then remove shortcuts to
> applications post FBA, then fbreseal. But that's just me :-)
>
> I am not Microsoft, but what you ask for would be incredibly difficult, as
> XPE=XP pro. XP Pro was not designed to be a headless OS, therefore the
> design of the OS would dictate that a general purpose PC would have all of
> those components installed. So to remove those components, you would have
> to re-architect the OS entirely.
>
> If you are running headless, make sure you have the null VGA component and
> the System message interception components installed, or you will
> undoubtedly have problems.
>
> JMHO.
>
> --
> John Coyne- Windows Embedded Black Belt- XPE and CE
> BSquare Corp.
> If you wish to reply directly to me, remove the <nospam_ > from the
> address.
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> "Mark K Vallevand" <mark.vallevand@unisys.com> wrote in message
> news:uZ9DQz1GFHA.3612@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Outlook Express is required by IIS, but I'd like to remove as much of OE
>> as possible.
>>
>> Is it better to leave OE alone while building the image and remove the OE
>> program files after up and running? I plan to leave all the files OE
>> installed in system directories.
>>
>> Or
>>
>> Is it better to modify OE in Target Designer to disable the OE program
>> files and Resources? Again, I'll leave all the files OE installs in
>> system directories.
>>
>> Or
>>
>> Don't even try. Maybe IIS depends on OE program files rather than files
>> it installs in system directories.
>>
>> PS Microsoft: How hard would it be for you to do this? How about all
>> the other things a headless, userless, printer-less system drags in? I
>> don't have a printer port, yet I get local printing and print spooling.
>> No user, but I get OE. No video, kb, mouse or local devices, yet I get
>> direct video, direct sound, video capture, analog TV, video for windows
>> and image capture. Can't ignore the dependencies, because it usually
>> breaks something we need.
>>
>> --
>> Regards.
>> Mark K Vallevand Mark.Vallevand@Unisys.com
>>
>> Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
>> - Benjamin Franklin
>>
>>
>> THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY
>> MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you
>> received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail
>> and its attachments from all computers.
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Hey,

I guess you need to doubly test and make sure that those disabled
files and dll registrations are not really required by our smarty IIS
.I tried doing that before and got into some issues, well again
that's me ..

Kesavan

"Mark K Vallevand" <mark.vallevand@unisys.com> wrote in message news:<eEjhrP0HFHA.3500@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>...
> Well, the point was to save the gobs of space that Outlook Express takes up.
>
> So, I did it. I disabled all files and dll registrations for any Outlook
> Express file that wasn't in any common directory. So far, so good. I'll
> see what the testing of the entire system (OS + Applications + WebPages)
> shows up.
>
> --
> Regards.
> Mark K Vallevand Mark.Vallevand@Unisys.com
>
> Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
> - Benjamin Franklin
>
>
> THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY
> MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received
> this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its
> attachments from all computers.
>
>
> "JC" <JCBSQ@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:u4VzMEoHFHA.904@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Personally, I would leave the bits alone, and then remove shortcuts to
> > applications post FBA, then fbreseal. But that's just me :-)
> >
> > I am not Microsoft, but what you ask for would be incredibly difficult, as
> > XPE=XP pro. XP Pro was not designed to be a headless OS, therefore the
> > design of the OS would dictate that a general purpose PC would have all of
> > those components installed. So to remove those components, you would have
> > to re-architect the OS entirely.
> >
> > If you are running headless, make sure you have the null VGA component and
> > the System message interception components installed, or you will
> > undoubtedly have problems.
> >
> > JMHO.
> >
> > --
> > John Coyne- Windows Embedded Black Belt- XPE and CE
> > BSquare Corp.
> > If you wish to reply directly to me, remove the <nospam_ > from the
> > address.
> > ______________________________________________________________________________
> > "Mark K Vallevand" <mark.vallevand@unisys.com> wrote in message
> > news:uZ9DQz1GFHA.3612@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> Outlook Express is required by IIS, but I'd like to remove as much of OE
> >> as possible.
> >>
> >> Is it better to leave OE alone while building the image and remove the OE
> >> program files after up and running? I plan to leave all the files OE
> >> installed in system directories.
> >>
> >> Or
> >>
> >> Is it better to modify OE in Target Designer to disable the OE program
> >> files and Resources? Again, I'll leave all the files OE installs in
> >> system directories.
> >>
> >> Or
> >>
> >> Don't even try. Maybe IIS depends on OE program files rather than files
> >> it installs in system directories.
> >>
> >> PS Microsoft: How hard would it be for you to do this? How about all
> >> the other things a headless, userless, printer-less system drags in? I
> >> don't have a printer port, yet I get local printing and print spooling.
> >> No user, but I get OE. No video, kb, mouse or local devices, yet I get
> >> direct video, direct sound, video capture, analog TV, video for windows
> >> and image capture. Can't ignore the dependencies, because it usually
> >> breaks something we need.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards.
> >> Mark K Vallevand Mark.Vallevand@Unisys.com
> >>
> >> Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
> >> - Benjamin Franklin
> >>
> >>
> >> THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY
> >> MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you
> >> received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail
> >> and its attachments from all computers.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >

Yes, I've tried it before, too. Always trouble. This time I hope it will
be better.

--
Regards.
Mark K Vallevand Mark.Vallevand@Unisys.com

Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
- Benjamin Franklin


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"Kesavan" <kesavansajeev@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:340a938c.0503030248.3eea102c@posting.google.com...
> Hey,
>
> I guess you need to doubly test and make sure that those disabled
> files and dll registrations are not really required by our smarty IIS
> .I tried doing that before and got into some issues, well again
> that's me ..
>
> Kesavan
>
> "Mark K Vallevand" <mark.vallevand@unisys.com> wrote in message
> news:<eEjhrP0HFHA.3500@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>...
>> Well, the point was to save the gobs of space that Outlook Express takes
>> up.
>>
>> So, I did it. I disabled all files and dll registrations for any Outlook
>> Express file that wasn't in any common directory. So far, so good. I'll
>> see what the testing of the entire system (OS + Applications + WebPages)
>> shows up.
>>
>> --
>> Regards.
>> Mark K Vallevand Mark.Vallevand@Unisys.com
>>
>> Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
>> - Benjamin Franklin
>>
>>
>> THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY
>> MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you
>> received
>> this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its
>> attachments from all computers.
>>
>>
>> "JC" <JCBSQ@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:u4VzMEoHFHA.904@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> > Personally, I would leave the bits alone, and then remove shortcuts to
>> > applications post FBA, then fbreseal. But that's just me :-)
>> >
>> > I am not Microsoft, but what you ask for would be incredibly difficult,
>> > as
>> > XPE=XP pro. XP Pro was not designed to be a headless OS, therefore the
>> > design of the OS would dictate that a general purpose PC would have all
>> > of
>> > those components installed. So to remove those components, you would
>> > have
>> > to re-architect the OS entirely.
>> >
>> > If you are running headless, make sure you have the null VGA component
>> > and
>> > the System message interception components installed, or you will
>> > undoubtedly have problems.
>> >
>> > JMHO.
>> >
>> > --
>> > John Coyne- Windows Embedded Black Belt- XPE and CE
>> > BSquare Corp.
>> > If you wish to reply directly to me, remove the <nospam_ > from the
>> > address.
>> > ______________________________________________________________________________
>> > "Mark K Vallevand" <mark.vallevand@unisys.com> wrote in message
>> > news:uZ9DQz1GFHA.3612@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> >> Outlook Express is required by IIS, but I'd like to remove as much of
>> >> OE
>> >> as possible.
>> >>
>> >> Is it better to leave OE alone while building the image and remove the
>> >> OE
>> >> program files after up and running? I plan to leave all the files OE
>> >> installed in system directories.
>> >>
>> >> Or
>> >>
>> >> Is it better to modify OE in Target Designer to disable the OE program
>> >> files and Resources? Again, I'll leave all the files OE installs in
>> >> system directories.
>> >>
>> >> Or
>> >>
>> >> Don't even try. Maybe IIS depends on OE program files rather than
>> >> files
>> >> it installs in system directories.
>> >>
>> >> PS Microsoft: How hard would it be for you to do this? How about
>> >> all
>> >> the other things a headless, userless, printer-less system drags in?
>> >> I
>> >> don't have a printer port, yet I get local printing and print
>> >> spooling.
>> >> No user, but I get OE. No video, kb, mouse or local devices, yet I
>> >> get
>> >> direct video, direct sound, video capture, analog TV, video for
>> >> windows
>> >> and image capture. Can't ignore the dependencies, because it usually
>> >> breaks something we need.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Regards.
>> >> Mark K Vallevand Mark.Vallevand@Unisys.com
>> >>
>> >> Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
>> >> - Benjamin Franklin
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE
>> >> PROPRIETARY
>> >> MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you
>> >> received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the
>> >> e-mail
>> >> and its attachments from all computers.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >