Re: What's the Difference ?

Nope, I think the problem is on my end and probably has to
do with the program. I tried voice conferencing with Yahoo
Messenger and it worked.


>-----Original Message-----
>Hi,
>
>It sounds like something on your contacts' side might be
blocking your audio communication.
>
>You might want to ask them to try turning off the built-
in Windows XP Internet Connection
>Firewall. To do so, click Start, then click the Control
Panel. If you're in category view
>click Network and Internet connections then click Network
Connections. Right click the
>network/internet connection, then click Properties. Click
the Advanced Tab, and verify that
>the Internet Connection Firewall is unchecked. If your
contact is using some other
>third-party firewall, have them make sure that Messenger
is set to 'Permit All', 'Allow All'
>or 'Medium' (ZoneAlarm).
>
>Also, if your contact is using an UPnP-enabled router,
they might need to reset their UPnP
>port forwardings. To do so, click Start, All Programs,
Accessories, Communications, Network
>Connections. Right-click the "Internet Gateway" (should
be under the Internet Gateway
>heading) and choose Properties. Choose the Settings
button, click each 'msmsgs' or 'msnmsgr'
>entry and then choose 'Delete' to each one. Then close
Messenger (right-click the Messenger
>icon, choose Exit), then restart Messenger.
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Windows MVP, Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>
>"Yu Ling" <hoyuling@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:06ed01c33800$5ab89eb0$a601280a@phx.gbl...
>> Thanks for your replies. I'm basically familiar with MSN
>> Messenger now but there's one problem left. During
>> videoconferencing the other side can't hear me although
>> I'm pretty sure that my mic is working fine.
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >No problem (just thought I should clarify before
writing
>> a novel you don't want). The Start
>> >Webcam option is basically for just seeing your contact
>> (there's no audio), whereas the Start
>> >Camera ("Start Video Conference" in MSN Messenger 6)
>> option is primarily for
>> >videoconferencing, and includes audio.
>> >____________________________________________
>> >Jonathan Kay
>> >Windows MVP, Messenger
>> >Associate Expert
>> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> >Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> >
>> >"Yu Ling" <hoyuling@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:097701c336fb$3e263b50$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> Sorry for sounding vague. I was meaning how do
>> the "Start
>> >> Camera" and "Start Webcam" functions differ ? Are
they
>> for
>> >> the same purpose : teleconferencing ?
>> >>
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> >The Webcam function is an add-on created by Logitech
>> and
>> >> actually loads up their program to
>> >> >use it. If you want more technical info, I can
give it
>> >> to you (not 100% sure what you're
>> >> >trying to find out).
>> >> >____________________________________________
>> >> >Jonathan Kay
>> >> >Windows MVP, Messenger
>> >> >Associate Expert
>> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> >> >Messenger Resources -
http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> >> >
>> >> >"Yu Ling" <hoyuling@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >news:0a8c01c3349c$ed3a4f70$a601280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> >> how does the webcam thing function ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >Greetings,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >The "Start Camera" option is the built-in video
>> support
>> >> >> in Windows XP (and available only on
>> >> >> >Windows XP-running Messenger clients).
The "Start
>> >> Webcam
>> >> >> for MSN Messenger" is a separate
>> >> >> >addition from Logitech for MSN Messenger 5, which
>> works
>> >> >> on all Windows versions.
>> >> >> >Downloadable here:
>> >> >> >http://messenger.msn.com/support/webcam.asp
>> >> >> >____________________________________________
>> >> >> >Jonathan Kay
>> >> >> >Windows MVP, Messenger
>> >> >> >Associate Expert
>> >> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> >> >> >Messenger Resources -
>> http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"Yu Ling" <hoyuling@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:025c01c33340$037ec8f0$a001280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> >> >> What's the difference between "Start Webcam for
>> MSN
>> >> >> >> Messenger" and "Start Camera" ? Anybody ?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

Hi Gary,

The Internet Connection Firewall does work with Messenger, but in some cases, it doesn't (due
to some UPnP issues).

It's much easier to address the problem with the ICF off.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com



"Gary L. Drescher" <GLDrescher@deja.com> wrote in message
news:8ajMa.9486$fG.4555@sccrnsc01...
> Turning off your firewall because Messenger audio won't work is like leaving
> your front door unlocked because the doorbell won't work. It's a dangerous
> work-around, and should certainly not be recommended without a warning.
>
> If Messenger isn't compatible with XP's own firewall, then it's simply
> broken and we should use other software instead.
>
>

So what do I do now ? Live with it ?

>-----Original Message-----
>"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <msnewsreplies@jonathankay.com>
wrote in message
>news:u1Sxkr$PDHA.3020@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> "Gary L. Drescher" <GLDrescher@deja.com> wrote in
message
>> news:8ajMa.9486$fG.4555@sccrnsc01...
>> > Turning off your firewall because Messenger audio
won't work
>> > is like leaving your front door unlocked because the
doorbell
>> > won't work. It's a dangerous work-around, and should
certainly
>> > not be recommended without a warning.
>> >
>> > If Messenger isn't compatible with XP's own firewall,
then it's
>> > simply broken and we should use other software
instead.
>>
>> The Internet Connection Firewall does work with
Messenger, but
>> in some cases, it doesn't (due to some UPnP issues).
>
>What cases are these? Is there a less dangerous way to
address the problem
>than by disabling the XP firewall?
>
>I use MSN Messenger 6.0 with XP Pro (all updates
installed), UPnP service
>running, XP firewall enabled (default settings), cable
internet connection
>(Comcast). I'm not behind any other firewall or router.
I'm trying to
>connect to a user who has MSN Messenger 6.0 with XP Home
(all updates
>installed), UPnP service running, XP firewall enabled
(default settings),
>cable internet connection (Optonline), no other firewall
or router. We can
>exchange instant messages and video, but cannot make an
audio connection.
>
>> It's much easier to address the problem with the ICF
off.
>
>Perhaps it's easy, but it's not safe. You're providing
step-by-step
>instructions to novices for disabling their XP firewalls
without even
>telling them what a firewall is or what the consequences
are of disabling
>it. It's a bit like teaching four-year-olds how to open
child-proof
>containers. If I were a cracker trying to gain access to
XP systems, one of
>the first things I'd try to do is to socially-engineer a
way to induce many
>novices to inactivate their firewalls.
>
>--Gary
>
>> ____________________________________________
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Windows MVP, Messenger
>> Associate Expert
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>
>
>.
>

Hi Yu,

Did you try the QoS suggestion?
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Yu Ling" <hoyuling@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:191601c372bd$4bb40420$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> So what do I do now ? Live with it ?
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <msnewsreplies@jonathankay.com>
> wrote in message
> >news:u1Sxkr$PDHA.3020@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> "Gary L. Drescher" <GLDrescher@deja.com> wrote in
> message
> >> news:8ajMa.9486$fG.4555@sccrnsc01...
> >> > Turning off your firewall because Messenger audio
> won't work
> >> > is like leaving your front door unlocked because the
> doorbell
> >> > won't work. It's a dangerous work-around, and should
> certainly
> >> > not be recommended without a warning.
> >> >
> >> > If Messenger isn't compatible with XP's own firewall,
> then it's
> >> > simply broken and we should use other software
> instead.
> >>
> >> The Internet Connection Firewall does work with
> Messenger, but
> >> in some cases, it doesn't (due to some UPnP issues).
> >
> >What cases are these? Is there a less dangerous way to
> address the problem
> >than by disabling the XP firewall?
> >
> >I use MSN Messenger 6.0 with XP Pro (all updates
> installed), UPnP service
> >running, XP firewall enabled (default settings), cable
> internet connection
> >(Comcast). I'm not behind any other firewall or router.
> I'm trying to
> >connect to a user who has MSN Messenger 6.0 with XP Home
> (all updates
> >installed), UPnP service running, XP firewall enabled
> (default settings),
> >cable internet connection (Optonline), no other firewall
> or router. We can
> >exchange instant messages and video, but cannot make an
> audio connection.
> >
> >> It's much easier to address the problem with the ICF
> off.
> >
> >Perhaps it's easy, but it's not safe. You're providing
> step-by-step
> >instructions to novices for disabling their XP firewalls
> without even
> >telling them what a firewall is or what the consequences
> are of disabling
> >it. It's a bit like teaching four-year-olds how to open
> child-proof
> >containers. If I were a cracker trying to gain access to
> XP systems, one of
> >the first things I'd try to do is to socially-engineer a
> way to induce many
> >novices to inactivate their firewalls.
> >
> >--Gary
> >
> >> ____________________________________________
> >> Jonathan Kay
> >> Windows MVP, Messenger
> >> Associate Expert
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> >> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >