annoying pop ups

how do i stop MESSENGER SERVICE from popping up all the
time?

Jonathan Kays description of how to suppress pop ups is
inadequate. In XP the steps are as follows:
1. Click Start>Control Panel
2. Click Performance & Maintenance
3. Click Admin Tools
4. Double Click services.
S. Scroll to Messenger and Highlight
6. Right click on Highlight and choose Properties
7. Click on Stop and select disable in the start up type
scroll box
8. Click OK.
It seems to work, is simple and, as far as I know, was
originally devised by the University of Virginia. Don't
be conned into paying 30$ blackmail fee to the pop up ad
kings.
John White
>-----Original Message-----
>Do these "pop-ups" that are appearing have "Messenger
>Service" in their titlebar? If so, what
>you're seeing is the Messenger service built-in to
>Windows, *not* Windows Messenger (which
>are two different things) which spammers are exploiting --
> this is not Microsoft, nor can
>Microsoft control them anymore then they can control spam
>to your e-mail inbox.
>
>To get rid of these pop ups, you'll need to disable
>the "Messenger Service", click Start,
>then Run, enter "services.msc"and click OK. Scroll down
>to "Messenger", select it,
>right-click and then choose Properties. Under startup
>type, choose 'Disabled' and then
>choose the 'Stop' button. After the service is stopped,
>click OK. Nothing in Windows or any
>real third-party applications should be effected by this.
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>how do i stop MESSENGER SERVICE from popping up all the
>>time?
>>.
>>
>.
>

teri wrote:
> how do i stop MESSENGER SERVICE from popping up all the
> time?

Jonathan is giving everyone who asks this question misinformation and I am
going to post the correct reply until he updates his stock response.

You need a firewall. You can either turn on the native one or - for complete
all-round protection - you need to purchase third party protection (I use
Zone Alarm Pro - they have a cut down freeware version which can be
downloaded from www.zonelabs.com). Some folk will tell you to turn off the
Messenger Service (nothing to do with Windows/MSN Messenger) but this is
like sweeping your bills under the rug. You will forget about them (out of
sight is out of mind) but they are still there and the consequences could be
serious if you don't deal with them. Buy a third party firewall (it is more
flexible as it can be configured) and set it to block ports 137-139 and 245
(there may be others, but I don't know of them). This will also prevent
spyware from 'phoning home'.

Just because someone has the letters 'MVP' after their name doesn't make
them anymore 'right' (despite Mr Kay's protestations to the contrary) than
someone who doesn't. Jonathan's answer does nothing whatsoever to cure the
problem, it merely masks the symptoms, like covering up shingles spots with
concealer.


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Jonathon Kay's replies are based on people asking how to stop the Messenger
Service popups and NOT about overall internet security. He is answering
these questions perfectly well. If people want advice on internet security
then they can see the related newsgroups or consult a proffesional.

I think you should also just take a look at how many replies Mr Kay has to
issue a day and NOT just in this newsgroup. Instead of bitching about his
replies...how about dropping him a friendly line for him to add a footnote
about firewalls.

MdB




"Amethyst" <amethyst@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> teri wrote:
> > how do i stop MESSENGER SERVICE from popping up all the
> > time?
>
> Jonathan is giving everyone who asks this question misinformation and I am
> going to post the correct reply until he updates his stock response.
>
> You need a firewall. You can either turn on the native one or - for
complete
> all-round protection - you need to purchase third party protection (I use
> Zone Alarm Pro - they have a cut down freeware version which can be
> downloaded from www.zonelabs.com). Some folk will tell you to turn off the
> Messenger Service (nothing to do with Windows/MSN Messenger) but this is
> like sweeping your bills under the rug. You will forget about them (out of
> sight is out of mind) but they are still there and the consequences could
be
> serious if you don't deal with them. Buy a third party firewall (it is
more
> flexible as it can be configured) and set it to block ports 137-139 and
245
> (there may be others, but I don't know of them). This will also prevent
> spyware from 'phoning home'.
>
> Just because someone has the letters 'MVP' after their name doesn't make
> them anymore 'right' (despite Mr Kay's protestations to the contrary) than
> someone who doesn't. Jonathan's answer does nothing whatsoever to cure the
> problem, it merely masks the symptoms, like covering up shingles spots
with
> concealer.
>
>
> --
> Cassandra
> Card carrying member of the Fresh Start Club 'The Undead Are People Too!'
>
> Reply address is fake. Please send all praise, abuse, insults, bequests
> of £1million to cassandra (at) craigy34 (dot) freeserve (dot) co (dot)
> uk. Change the obvious to the obvious.
> Private requests for assistance will not be acknowledged. Please post all
> correspondence to the group so that all may benefit. Thank you.
>
>

Jonathon Kay's replies are based on people asking how to stop the Messenger
Service popups and NOT about overall internet security. He is answering
these questions perfectly well. If people want advice on internet security
then they can see the related newsgroups or consult a proffesional.

I think you should also just take a look at how many replies Mr Kay has to
issue a day and NOT just in this newsgroup. Instead of bitching about his
replies...how about dropping him a friendly line for him to add a footnote
about firewalls.

MdB

"John White" <john@seaspan.co.uk> wrote in message
news:021601c33f44$498ae030$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> Jonathan Kays description of how to suppress pop ups is
> inadequate. In XP the steps are as follows:
> 1. Click Start>Control Panel
> 2. Click Performance & Maintenance
> 3. Click Admin Tools
> 4. Double Click services.
> S. Scroll to Messenger and Highlight
> 6. Right click on Highlight and choose Properties
> 7. Click on Stop and select disable in the start up type
> scroll box
> 8. Click OK.
> It seems to work, is simple and, as far as I know, was
> originally devised by the University of Virginia. Don't
> be conned into paying 30$ blackmail fee to the pop up ad
> kings.
> John White
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Do these "pop-ups" that are appearing have "Messenger
> >Service" in their titlebar? If so, what
> >you're seeing is the Messenger service built-in to
> >Windows, *not* Windows Messenger (which
> >are two different things) which spammers are exploiting --
> > this is not Microsoft, nor can
> >Microsoft control them anymore then they can control spam
> >to your e-mail inbox.
> >
> >To get rid of these pop ups, you'll need to disable
> >the "Messenger Service", click Start,
> >then Run, enter "services.msc"and click OK. Scroll down
> >to "Messenger", select it,
> >right-click and then choose Properties. Under startup
> >type, choose 'Disabled' and then
> >choose the 'Stop' button. After the service is stopped,
> >click OK. Nothing in Windows or any
> >real third-party applications should be effected by this.
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>how do i stop MESSENGER SERVICE from popping up all the
> >>time?
> >>.
> >>
> >.
> >

Mame du Bois wrote:
> Jonathon Kay's replies are based on people asking how to stop the
Messenger
> Service popups and NOT about overall internet security. He is answering
> these questions perfectly well. If people want advice on internet security
> then they can see the related newsgroups or consult a proffesional.
>
> I think you should also just take a look at how many replies Mr Kay has to
> issue a day and NOT just in this newsgroup. Instead of bitching about his
> replies...how about dropping him a friendly line for him to add a footnote
> about firewalls.
>
> MdB

So are mine and he isn't "answering these questions perfectly well".
Internet security is the WHOLE POINT. The advertisments are merely a symptom
of a hole being exploited. Disabling the messenger service does nothing to
fix the problem it merely masks it. I've been dealing with computers - and
related paraphernalia - since Mr Kay was in kindergarten! You've no idea how
old he is do you? I think I know a tad more about these things than he does.
May I suggest you re-read my reply to learn why disabling the service is
*NOT* a good idea. It's like trying to mend a broken leg with a band aid.

As far as MS newsgroups go, Mr Kay only deals with this one. He is lulling
people into a false sense of security. Yes, disabling the service may
prevent you from seeing the pop-ups but it does nothing to fix the problem.
Spots are a symptom of measles. If you apply calamine to them, they will
disappear, but calamine does nothing to kill the measles virus. Turning off
the messenger service is the computing equivalent of applying calamine to
measles spots and doing nothing about the underlying virus. Is that a better
analogy for you?

I repeat *THE ONLY WAY TO DEAL WITH THESE ADVERTISEMENTS IS TO INSTALL AND
CONFIGURE A FIREWALL*.


If you want to leave glaring holes in your internet security, and leave your
system open to all sorts of nasties then, by all means, follow Mr Kay's
advice...Me? I prefer the security of knowing that not only will I no longer
be troubled by pop-ups, but that the underlying security risk is also taken
care of.

--
Cassandra
Card carrying member of the Fresh Start Club 'The Undead Are People Too!'

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Sorry, noted for future reference.

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Change the obvious to the obvious.
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"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <msnewsreplies@jonathankay.com> wrote in message
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> Greetings Paul,
>
> I don't mind you copy/pasting my posts word-for-word, but it would be nice
to get a little
> credit, something like "originally posted by Jonathan Kay" comes to mind
=).
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Windows MVP, Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
> "Paul" <pcyr2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:27cb01c33f2b$ea714020$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> > Do these "pop-ups" that are appearing have "Messenger
> > Service" in their titlebar? If so, what
> > you're seeing is the Messenger service built-in to
> > Windows, *not* Windows Messenger (which
> > are two different things) which spammers are exploiting --
> > this is not Microsoft, nor can
> > Microsoft control them anymore then they can control spam
> > to your e-mail inbox.
> >
> > To get rid of these pop ups, you'll need to disable
> > the "Messenger Service", click Start,
> > then Run, enter "services.msc"and click OK. Scroll down
> > to "Messenger", select it,
> > right-click and then choose Properties. Under startup
> > type, choose 'Disabled' and then
> > choose the 'Stop' button. After the service is stopped,
> > click OK. Nothing in Windows or any
> > real third-party applications should be effected by this.
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >how do i stop MESSENGER SERVICE from popping up all the
> > >time?
> > >.
> > >
>
>

No problem =).
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com


"PCyr" <heywood_jabloeme@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sorry, noted for future reference.
>
> --
> Member of "Newsgroups are for everyone" (Perdita X. Dream is a
> self-righteous, ruthless net-cop too!)
>
> Email address is fake to prevent SPAM.
> Real email address is pcyr2000 AT hotmail DOT com
> Change the obvious to the obvious.
> ------------------
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <msnewsreplies@jonathankay.com> wrote in message
> news:OW8SwFzPDHA.2636@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Greetings Paul,
> >
> > I don't mind you copy/pasting my posts word-for-word, but it would be nice
> to get a little
> > credit, something like "originally posted by Jonathan Kay" comes to mind
> =).
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> > "Paul" <pcyr2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:27cb01c33f2b$ea714020$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> > > Do these "pop-ups" that are appearing have "Messenger
> > > Service" in their titlebar? If so, what
> > > you're seeing is the Messenger service built-in to
> > > Windows, *not* Windows Messenger (which
> > > are two different things) which spammers are exploiting --
> > > this is not Microsoft, nor can
> > > Microsoft control them anymore then they can control spam
> > > to your e-mail inbox.
> > >
> > > To get rid of these pop ups, you'll need to disable
> > > the "Messenger Service", click Start,
> > > then Run, enter "services.msc"and click OK. Scroll down
> > > to "Messenger", select it,
> > > right-click and then choose Properties. Under startup
> > > type, choose 'Disabled' and then
> > > choose the 'Stop' button. After the service is stopped,
> > > click OK. Nothing in Windows or any
> > > real third-party applications should be effected by this.
> > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >how do i stop MESSENGER SERVICE from popping up all the
> > > >time?
> > > >.
> > > >
> >
> >
>
>