minlogon+hibernate problem

I make a image with minlogon and with hibernate function.
After FBA, I install the display driver and sound driver, reboot,then enable
the hibernate function. But when i shut down the computer by the hibernate,
nothing happened.
I have add the "Disk Dump Drivers" component already. Why i still can not
use the hibernate function? Do i need any other components?

If i make a image with winlogon and with hibernate function, the hibernate
function works ok.

Hi George,

You should have image based on ACPI hal. All drivers installed and working. "Dump driver".
You probably know that.

Try using standby if it is working then hibernate should work as well.

BTW:
What error do you see?
Also are you using EWF?

Regards,
Slobodan




"George" <sungxb@163.com> wrote in message news:eAcBF5ZXEHA.4032@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> I make a image with minlogon and with hibernate function.
> After FBA, I install the display driver and sound driver, reboot,then enable
> the hibernate function. But when i shut down the computer by the hibernate,
> nothing happened.
> I have add the "Disk Dump Drivers" component already. Why i still can not
> use the hibernate function? Do i need any other components?
>
> If i make a image with winlogon and with hibernate function, the hibernate
> function works ok.
>
>

Slobodan,

> Hi George,
> You should have image based on ACPI hal.

Are you sure about that? I thought that having ACPI compatible BIOS is
enough and hibernate/stadby Windows feature would work there with "Standard
PC" HAL as well as with ACPI HAL. All you have to do is to enable
hibernation support on the HAL component's settings page (+ "Dump driver",
of course).

Enabling hibernation support turns out to just change a flag (6th byte) in
"Heuristics" binary value under
"HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Power" key.

> All drivers installed and working. "Dump driver". You probably know that.
>
> Try using standby if it is working then hibernate should work as well.
>
> BTW:
> What error do you see?
> Also are you using EWF?
>
> Regards,
> Slobodan

Konstantin,

Are you sure about that?
Not 100% since I might not had all drivers that support suspend mode when I tested it. I can't tell now for sure.

Regards,
Slobodan

"KM" <konstmor@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message news:%23ShSGrcXEHA.1036@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Slobodan,
>
> > Hi George,
> > You should have image based on ACPI hal.
>
> Are you sure about that? I thought that having ACPI compatible BIOS is
> enough and hibernate/stadby Windows feature would work there with "Standard
> PC" HAL as well as with ACPI HAL. All you have to do is to enable
> hibernation support on the HAL component's settings page (+ "Dump driver",
> of course).
>
> Enabling hibernation support turns out to just change a flag (6th byte) in
> "Heuristics" binary value under
> "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Power" key.
>
> > All drivers installed and working. "Dump driver". You probably know that.
> >
> > Try using standby if it is working then hibernate should work as well.
> >
> > BTW:
> > What error do you see?
> > Also are you using EWF?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Slobodan
>
>

Thanks for your and konstantin's answers.



"Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <sbrcin@ptt.yu> дÈëÓʼþ
news:OP0J%23mdXEHA.1048@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Konstantin,
>
> Are you sure about that?
> Not 100% since I might not had all drivers that support suspend mode when
I tested it. I can't tell now for sure.
>
> Regards,
> Slobodan
>
> "KM" <konstmor@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%23ShSGrcXEHA.1036@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Slobodan,
> >
> > > Hi George,
> > > You should have image based on ACPI hal.
> >
> > Are you sure about that? I thought that having ACPI compatible BIOS is
> > enough and hibernate/stadby Windows feature would work there with
"Standard
> > PC" HAL as well as with ACPI HAL. All you have to do is to enable
> > hibernation support on the HAL component's settings page (+ "Dump
driver",
> > of course).
> >
> > Enabling hibernation support turns out to just change a flag (6th byte)
in
> > "Heuristics" binary value under
> > "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Power" key.
> >
> > > All drivers installed and working. "Dump driver". You probably know
that.
> > >
> > > Try using standby if it is working then hibernate should work as well.
> > >
> > > BTW:
> > > What error do you see?
> > > Also are you using EWF?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Slobodan
> >
> >
>
>

Hi George,

Did you solved problem you had?

What was it?

Regards,
Slobodan

"George" <sungxb@163.com> wrote in message news:u4FgvGkXEHA.2520@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for your and konstantin's answers.
>
>
>
> "Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <sbrcin@ptt.yu> дÈëÓʼþ
> news:OP0J%23mdXEHA.1048@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Konstantin,
> >
> > Are you sure about that?
> > Not 100% since I might not had all drivers that support suspend mode when
> I tested it. I can't tell now for sure.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Slobodan
> >
> > "KM" <konstmor@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:%23ShSGrcXEHA.1036@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > Slobodan,
> > >
> > > > Hi George,
> > > > You should have image based on ACPI hal.
> > >
> > > Are you sure about that? I thought that having ACPI compatible BIOS is
> > > enough and hibernate/stadby Windows feature would work there with
> "Standard
> > > PC" HAL as well as with ACPI HAL. All you have to do is to enable
> > > hibernation support on the HAL component's settings page (+ "Dump
> driver",
> > > of course).
> > >
> > > Enabling hibernation support turns out to just change a flag (6th byte)
> in
> > > "Heuristics" binary value under
> > > "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Power" key.
> > >
> > > > All drivers installed and working. "Dump driver". You probably know
> that.
> > > >
> > > > Try using standby if it is working then hibernate should work as well.
> > > >
> > > > BTW:
> > > > What error do you see?
> > > > Also are you using EWF?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Slobodan
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

I am testing it now, i will give you the result later, maybe tomorrow, ok?
:-)


"Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <sbrcin@ptt.yu> дÈëÓʼþ
news:OnzHyZkXEHA.716@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Hi George,
>
> Did you solved problem you had?
>
> What was it?
>
> Regards,
> Slobodan
>
> "George" <sungxb@163.com> wrote in message
news:u4FgvGkXEHA.2520@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Thanks for your and konstantin's answers.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <sbrcin@ptt.yu> дÈëÓʼþ
> > news:OP0J%23mdXEHA.1048@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > Konstantin,
> > >
> > > Are you sure about that?
> > > Not 100% since I might not had all drivers that support suspend mode
when
> > I tested it. I can't tell now for sure.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Slobodan
> > >
> > > "KM" <konstmor@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23ShSGrcXEHA.1036@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > Slobodan,
> > > >
> > > > > Hi George,
> > > > > You should have image based on ACPI hal.
> > > >
> > > > Are you sure about that? I thought that having ACPI compatible BIOS
is
> > > > enough and hibernate/stadby Windows feature would work there with
> > "Standard
> > > > PC" HAL as well as with ACPI HAL. All you have to do is to enable
> > > > hibernation support on the HAL component's settings page (+ "Dump
> > driver",
> > > > of course).
> > > >
> > > > Enabling hibernation support turns out to just change a flag (6th
byte)
> > in
> > > > "Heuristics" binary value under
> > > > "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Power" key.
> > > >
> > > > > All drivers installed and working. "Dump driver". You probably
know
> > that.
> > > > >
> > > > > Try using standby if it is working then hibernate should work as
well.
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW:
> > > > > What error do you see?
> > > > > Also are you using EWF?
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Slobodan
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

If it is working on your winlogon build then it is not problem related to hardware (at least we know that).
You won't need to use APCI HAL then.

BTW: As far as I can remember I used successfully hibernation with minlogon. (No extra settings was required.)

Are you using same image or you are using two separate projects?
Try replacing winlogon with minlogon in your working image for start. In this way you will know at least that all files and drivers
are present in both builds.

Regards,
Slobodan

"George" <sungxb@163.com> wrote in message news:ewD9dfwXEHA.1128@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> I use Stand PC hal and add the "disk dump driver",
> and install all the drivers correctly,
> and chech the registry the key
> "Heuristics" binary value under
> "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Power" also changed.
>
> If i use explorer shell+winlogon, it works ok, so i think my hardware
> support the hibernate function.
> I still don't know why the image with minlogon cann't work with the
> hibernate.
> And i will try the ACPI Hal later.
>
>
>
> "Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <sbrcin@ptt.yu> дÈëÓʼþ
> news:OnzHyZkXEHA.716@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Hi George,
> >
> > Did you solved problem you had?
> >
> > What was it?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Slobodan
> >
> > "George" <sungxb@163.com> wrote in message
> news:u4FgvGkXEHA.2520@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > Thanks for your and konstantin's answers.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <sbrcin@ptt.yu> дÈëÓʼþ
> > > news:OP0J%23mdXEHA.1048@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > Konstantin,
> > > >
> > > > Are you sure about that?
> > > > Not 100% since I might not had all drivers that support suspend mode
> when
> > > I tested it. I can't tell now for sure.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Slobodan
> > > >
> > > > "KM" <konstmor@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:%23ShSGrcXEHA.1036@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Slobodan,
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi George,
> > > > > > You should have image based on ACPI hal.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you sure about that? I thought that having ACPI compatible BIOS
> is
> > > > > enough and hibernate/stadby Windows feature would work there with
> > > "Standard
> > > > > PC" HAL as well as with ACPI HAL. All you have to do is to enable
> > > > > hibernation support on the HAL component's settings page (+ "Dump
> > > driver",
> > > > > of course).
> > > > >
> > > > > Enabling hibernation support turns out to just change a flag (6th
> byte)
> > > in
> > > > > "Heuristics" binary value under
> > > > > "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Power" key.
> > > > >
> > > > > > All drivers installed and working. "Dump driver". You probably
> know
> > > that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Try using standby if it is working then hibernate should work as
> well.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BTW:
> > > > > > What error do you see?
> > > > > > Also are you using EWF?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Slobodan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

George,

Just in case, install this QFE:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...&displaylang=en

--
Regards,
KM, BSquare Corp.


> I use Stand PC hal and add the "disk dump driver",
> and install all the drivers correctly,
> and chech the registry the key
> "Heuristics" binary value under
> "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Power" also changed.
>
> If i use explorer shell+winlogon, it works ok, so i think my hardware
> support the hibernate function.
> I still don't know why the image with minlogon cann't work with the
> hibernate.
> And i will try the ACPI Hal later.
>
>
>
> "Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <sbrcin@ptt.yu> дÈëÓʼþ
> news:OnzHyZkXEHA.716@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Hi George,
> >
> > Did you solved problem you had?
> >
> > What was it?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Slobodan
> >
> > "George" <sungxb@163.com> wrote in message
> news:u4FgvGkXEHA.2520@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > Thanks for your and konstantin's answers.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <sbrcin@ptt.yu> дÈëÓʼþ
> > > news:OP0J%23mdXEHA.1048@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > Konstantin,
> > > >
> > > > Are you sure about that?
> > > > Not 100% since I might not had all drivers that support suspend mode
> when
> > > I tested it. I can't tell now for sure.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Slobodan
> > > >
> > > > "KM" <konstmor@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:%23ShSGrcXEHA.1036@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Slobodan,
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi George,
> > > > > > You should have image based on ACPI hal.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you sure about that? I thought that having ACPI compatible BIOS
> is
> > > > > enough and hibernate/stadby Windows feature would work there with
> > > "Standard
> > > > > PC" HAL as well as with ACPI HAL. All you have to do is to enable
> > > > > hibernation support on the HAL component's settings page (+ "Dump
> > > driver",
> > > > > of course).
> > > > >
> > > > > Enabling hibernation support turns out to just change a flag (6th
> byte)
> > > in
> > > > > "Heuristics" binary value under
> > > > > "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Power" key.
> > > > >
> > > > > > All drivers installed and working. "Dump driver". You probably
> know
> > > that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Try using standby if it is working then hibernate should work as
> well.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BTW:
> > > > > > What error do you see?
> > > > > > Also are you using EWF?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Slobodan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

I mean install this QFE and try the Minlogon only image (don't add additional Winlogon stuff).

--
Regards,
KM, BSquare Corp.


> George,
>
> Just in case, install this QFE:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...&displaylang=en
>
> --
> Regards,
> KM, BSquare Corp.
>
>
> > I use Stand PC hal and add the "disk dump driver",
> > and install all the drivers correctly,
> > and chech the registry the key
> > "Heuristics" binary value under
> > "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Power" also changed.
> >
> > If i use explorer shell+winlogon, it works ok, so i think my hardware
> > support the hibernate function.
> > I still don't know why the image with minlogon cann't work with the
> > hibernate.
> > And i will try the ACPI Hal later.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <sbrcin@ptt.yu> дÈëÓʼþ
> > news:OnzHyZkXEHA.716@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > Hi George,
> > >
> > > Did you solved problem you had?
> > >
> > > What was it?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Slobodan
> > >
> > > "George" <sungxb@163.com> wrote in message
> > news:u4FgvGkXEHA.2520@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > Thanks for your and konstantin's answers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <sbrcin@ptt.yu> дÈëÓʼþ
> > > > news:OP0J%23mdXEHA.1048@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Konstantin,
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you sure about that?
> > > > > Not 100% since I might not had all drivers that support suspend mode
> > when
> > > > I tested it. I can't tell now for sure.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Slobodan
> > > > >
> > > > > "KM" <konstmor@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:%23ShSGrcXEHA.1036@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > Slobodan,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi George,
> > > > > > > You should have image based on ACPI hal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are you sure about that? I thought that having ACPI compatible BIOS
> > is
> > > > > > enough and hibernate/stadby Windows feature would work there with
> > > > "Standard
> > > > > > PC" HAL as well as with ACPI HAL. All you have to do is to enable
> > > > > > hibernation support on the HAL component's settings page (+ "Dump
> > > > driver",
> > > > > > of course).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Enabling hibernation support turns out to just change a flag (6th
> > byte)
> > > > in
> > > > > > "Heuristics" binary value under
> > > > > > "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Power" key.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > All drivers installed and working. "Dump driver". You probably
> > know
> > > > that.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Try using standby if it is working then hibernate should work as
> > well.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > BTW:
> > > > > > > What error do you see?
> > > > > > > Also are you using EWF?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > Slobodan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>