Re: Artifacts clean-up?

Don't suspect this is in MovieMaker2 since it is geared towards digital
editing, and DV wouldn't have this.

Windows Media Encoder will do this if you are tranferring to WMV format.
Properties, Video Size, Crop, Custom

"Cuyler" <orion404@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I've got an annoying white streak at the bottom edge of a
> captured VHS clip and in other editors, I can 'raise' the
> bottom of the clip 'up' & just above the point where the
> artifact appears so that only the 'clean' video remains.
>
> Cannot find it under the Help section so assume MS using
> a different keyword? Suggestions?

It's a separate software package, a free download from Microsoft at:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/wi...er/default.aspx

PapaJohn

"Cuyler" <orion404@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:01ed01c347e6$36b270e0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> Yes, have decided to keep all my videos in 'WMV for now
> with its fantastic file size capabilities, and in the
> event I need 'MPG later, TMPGenc is able to make the
> conversion for me.
>
> But, where is the Windows Media Encoder app? Is that an
> option under 'Save My Movie' ?

> Yes, have decided to keep all my videos in 'WMV for now
> with its fantastic file size capabilities, and in the
> event I need 'MPG later, TMPGenc is able to make the
> conversion for me.

Please remember that WMV is a compressed video format ... you already lost
video information though your eye may not see it. Despite the big file size
I´d suggest capturing everything in AVI and maybe investing in a seperate
harrdisk (120GB) so you´have your DV movies as a real copy on your HD.
By re-ecoding your WMV movies to MPEG1/2 you again loose information and you
video may not look as good as you expected it to be. It´s like bmp/jpg for
the pic´s.

I agree with all those statements, and because of that I am still keeping
everything, I might ever want to re-edit or recombine, in AVI until the
right format comes along. WMV is good enough but I am worried about
long-term support on other hardware devices.

Anyway have you tried "High Quality Video (NTSC)" from the other settings
menu when saving to WMV. I thought that provided the best images for the
file sizes. Try it and feedback what you think.

The Encoder provides an infinite number of choices and for it I was
selecting:
Convert a File,
Video 95
Audio 90
Select Properties
Compression
Quality based tab
File Archive
Video 85
1 second key frames
De-interlace

I found that "High Quality Video (NTSC)" gave me a similar file.


"Darek" <dszofer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > Yes, have decided to keep all my videos in 'WMV for now
> > with its fantastic file size capabilities, and in the
> > event I need 'MPG later, TMPGenc is able to make the
> > conversion for me.
>
> Please remember that WMV is a compressed video format ... you already lost
> video information though your eye may not see it. Despite the big file
size
> I´d suggest capturing everything in AVI and maybe investing in a seperate
> harrdisk (120GB) so you´have your DV movies as a real copy on your HD.
> By re-ecoding your WMV movies to MPEG1/2 you again loose information and
you
> video may not look as good as you expected it to be. It´s like bmp/jpg for
> the pic´s.
>
>

Darek,

forgot to mention this but part of the problem is the that if you have 120
GB on the hard drive you need to back up 120 GB and that isn't a small
amount. In the end it costs more than people expect.

Below is the answer to another question, but it is my standard dissertation
on some issues with editing video:

What is your end goal? Are you creating DVDs for your own use on your PC,
to send to friends and family to play on their Windows PCs or standalone
DVD?
Do you want to burn (as in flames) the VHS/DV tapes when you are done?

DV format is currently the highest quality/most universal format but it is
13 gigabytes per hour. So you will have to become a very good editor /
censor if you want to save your footage in top quality. My wife is a great
editor,
she routinely and ruthlessly chops 1 hour DVs into 3-4 minutes.

Saving finished projects to WMV or MPEG-2 would allow fairly good quality
and you save more video. But since these are compressed formats they really
are only good for finished products. So if you don't want to have to
recapture your video from the
camera each time you want to create a new compilation, you will need to buy
a lot of hard drive space to keep the original high quality video readily
accessible. To make a real "Hollywood" DVD the video eventually has to be
converted to MPEG-2.

As an aside, WMV can have astounding quality, better than DVD. Check out
this demo:

http://download.microsoft.com/downl...nce_trailer.exe

It is an self extracting zip exe, so that people would not try to play it
from a server. I re-encoded that clip 10 times to the same format and it
still looked good.

If you start with great input and encode it using high resolutions then a
compressed format can be used, by amateurs, for editing as long as you limit
the number of times you do it.

Back on topic:

I'm capturing everything to a DV camera and then I capture from the DV
camera to the PC through firewire in DV-AVI format. Some DV cameras (Canon
at a low price)
will also convert analog into Firewire without capturing to tape.

I am keeping all my original captures on my hard drive. I currently have
about 170 GB devoted to video.

I set up four folders:
Capture - raw capture, DV-AVI
Events - raw capture split up into short events, DV-AVI
Edited - events cleaned up, DV-AVI
Presentation - Edited video converted into WMV for sharing with other
computers

If you want to do things methodically and you have many old tapes it will be
a while until you can make a DVD so you would stay in DV-AVI format for at
least a couple of months.

I delete the stuff in Capture and Events as I am done with it and I erase my
DV-AVI tapes for reuse.

I back all this up to a 250 GB external hard drive. You can also backup all
or some of this, depending on which work you are willing to lose to DV-AVI
tape or DVD-RW.

I am waiting for the day when a good format shows up so that I can convert
the Edited video and then delete it also. The jury is still out about
whether WMV, or MPEG-4 will be a good long-term editable format (there will
be some quality loss, but for amateur purposes this is okay).

I have tried saving to "High Quality Video (NTSC)" in Movie Maker II and
that may be the format I am looking for, but I'm not ready to commit yet.

Any way, sorry for not answering your question directly but I wanted you to
consider some of the other issues.

More directly, my favorite capture device is a DV camera with analog inputs,
it is more expensive than a card but it has many uses. I don't see direct
capture through a card buying anything but trouble, and you won't have the
DV tape as a backup. You will have to recapture again if something goes
wrong on the PC. DV is a worldwide standard.

To remain in DV-AVI or WMV and to share video with other Windows users,
Windows Movie Maker II is great. For help see built in Help, Help Topics;
website www.papajohn.org; newsgroup microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker.
To create DVDs that can be played in stand-alone DVD players there are many
products. This is a good low end product that has worked for me. You can at
least try this and then move on from there.

Ulead DVD Movie Factory 2, http://www.ulead.com/dmf/runme.htm, a free trial
is available

Yes, that is an option. Sorry I forgot to mention it, but it is a slow
option. Maybe for backup it is OK. How do you back up 10 5 minute movies?
When you re-capture won't you manually have to start and stop the camera or
if you capture one big file you will have to re-split it again. If DV tape
worked like a data tape it would be acceptable but the way it is and with
the transfers occuring in real-time I don't think I could use it.

The last reason I don't like it is because it is tape. My camera had a
problem for a few months where it was chewing up tapes. It took 3 repair
trips to get it fixed.

"Aloke Prasad" <aprasad123@columbus.rr.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Jose" <josepena28,cox,net> wrote in message
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> > Darek,
> >
> > forgot to mention this but part of the problem is the that if you have
120
> > GB on the hard drive you need to back up 120 GB and that isn't a small
> > amount. In the end it costs more than people expect.
>
> Why not use DV tapes to store edited AVI-DV files? The tapes are cheap
($3
> something each in packs of 6 at Sams Club). So, edit and clean all you
want
> and then upload them to tape (via the DV camera and firewire) for
> archiving...
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> Aloke
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