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Old 15-10-2003, 08:09 AM   #1
Micha
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Hi all

can i use NTFS on CF-card?
XP only offers Fat

or can i use NTFS only after making the device non-removable?

regards


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Old 15-10-2003, 08:59 AM   #2
Johannes Stratmann
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it should work. I use CF with NTFS and Format them using W2k diskmanager. So
there should be no difference. The CF is connected direct to the IDE
controller in a CF slot, not using an external USB card reader.
NTFS has also the advantage that the boot record is included. You must mark
the partiton also as 'active' for a bootable disk. I found it also important
to format the CF on the target hardware, the LBA modes used by Windows and
Bios'es are not compatible (LBA is not a fixed standard). For a Sandisk 'out
of the box' I need the following procedure:
- insert into slot of target HW, target HW is set to LBA mode
- start W2k diskmanager
- delete existing FAT partition
- reboot machine
- create new primary partiton
- format with NTFS
- mark new partition as 'active'


"Micha" <mgarbsch@unterderbruecke.de> wrote in message
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> Hi all
>
> can i use NTFS on CF-card?
> XP only offers Fat
>
> or can i use NTFS only after making the device non-removable?
>
> regards
>
>




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Old 15-10-2003, 09:30 AM   #3
Micha
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OK
i will try this
Danke!

"Johannes Stratmann" <-jstratmann-cityweb.de-> wrote in message
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> it should work. I use CF with NTFS and Format them using W2k diskmanager.

So
> there should be no difference. The CF is connected direct to the IDE
> controller in a CF slot, not using an external USB card reader.
> NTFS has also the advantage that the boot record is included. You must

mark
> the partiton also as 'active' for a bootable disk. I found it also

important
> to format the CF on the target hardware, the LBA modes used by Windows and
> Bios'es are not compatible (LBA is not a fixed standard). For a Sandisk

'out
> of the box' I need the following procedure:
> - insert into slot of target HW, target HW is set to LBA mode
> - start W2k diskmanager
> - delete existing FAT partition
> - reboot machine
> - create new primary partiton
> - format with NTFS
> - mark new partition as 'active'
>
>
> "Micha" <mgarbsch@unterderbruecke.de> wrote in message
> news:%23nJkqtukDHA.1764@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Hi all
> >
> > can i use NTFS on CF-card?
> > XP only offers Fat
> >
> > or can i use NTFS only after making the device non-removable?
> >
> > regards
> >
> >

>
>
>



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Old 15-10-2003, 10:22 AM   #4
Jochen Kalmbach
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Micha wrote:

> can i use NTFS on CF-card?
> XP only offers Fat
>
> or can i use NTFS only after making the device non-removable?


If the volume is too small NTFS is not possible... (I think at least 7 MB)

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Old 15-10-2003, 10:28 AM   #5
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nee

its enough 256MB


"Jochen Kalmbach" <nospam-Jochen.Kalmbach@holzma.de> wrote in message
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> Micha wrote:
>
> > can i use NTFS on CF-card?
> > XP only offers Fat
> >
> > or can i use NTFS only after making the device non-removable?

>
> If the volume is too small NTFS is not possible... (I think at least 7 MB)
>
> --
> Greetings
> Jochen
>
> Do you need a memory-leak finder ?
> http://www.codeproject.com/tools/leakfinder.asp



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Old 15-10-2003, 12:03 PM   #6
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You should mark it non-removable.
This will allow you to create partitions, and use CF like HDD.
Also you need this to be able to use EWF.

Regards,
Slobodan

"Micha" <mgarbsch@unterderbruecke.de> wrote in message
news:#nJkqtukDHA.1764@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hi all
>
> can i use NTFS on CF-card?
> XP only offers Fat
>
> or can i use NTFS only after making the device non-removable?
>
> regards
>
>



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Old 15-10-2003, 02:16 PM   #7
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But i can´t
sandisk isn´t responding to my requests



"Slobodan Brcin" <sbrcin@ptt.yu> wrote in message
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> You should mark it non-removable.
> This will allow you to create partitions, and use CF like HDD.
> Also you need this to be able to use EWF.
>
> Regards,
> Slobodan
>
> "Micha" <mgarbsch@unterderbruecke.de> wrote in message
> news:#nJkqtukDHA.1764@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Hi all
> >
> > can i use NTFS on CF-card?
> > XP only offers Fat
> >
> > or can i use NTFS only after making the device non-removable?
> >
> > regards
> >
> >

>
>



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Old 15-10-2003, 03:07 PM   #8
David Ditch
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If you contact the regular channels, you are wasting time.
Also, you have to have industrial cards.
I wish we did not have to do this (you listening MS?) having to do this step
is such a pain and limits our availability and cost for media.
If we did not have this restriction, then I could lower my costs by $40 by
opening myself up to more vendors and not having to set the media manually.
Having to use non-removable media type CF cards seems to wast ALOT of
people's time and keeps us from going on with our development. I know I
personally have wasted weeks in getting my product out the door because of
this. If MS had a patch to XPe to get around this, We all and MS would save
ALOT of time.

You have to contact this guy at Sandisk:
tdhoang@sandisk.com


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Old 15-10-2003, 03:09 PM   #9
Johannes Stratmann
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I don't use this tool, its only necessary for the EWF. It is possible to use
only one partition and boot from this. But you should run the First Boot on
a HD, it takes very long time on a CF and can kill it because of too many
write operations.


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Old 15-10-2003, 03:51 PM   #10
Heidi Linda eMVP
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Have you contacted other manufacturers such as Transcend and Unigen? Both
supply us cards which are already marked non-removable.

"Micha" <mgarbsch@unterderbruecke.de> wrote in message
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> But i can´t
> sandisk isn´t responding to my requests
>
>
>
> "Slobodan Brcin" <sbrcin@ptt.yu> wrote in message
> news:OAY%235vwkDHA.2160@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > You should mark it non-removable.
> > This will allow you to create partitions, and use CF like HDD.
> > Also you need this to be able to use EWF.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Slobodan
> >
> > "Micha" <mgarbsch@unterderbruecke.de> wrote in message
> > news:#nJkqtukDHA.1764@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > can i use NTFS on CF-card?
> > > XP only offers Fat
> > >
> > > or can i use NTFS only after making the device non-removable?
> > >
> > > regards
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



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