Needing some advice regarding ink consumption % paper quality and...

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I have access to a Canon 24" W6400 inkjet printer.

I would like to know if there is somewhere a comparison of ink consumption
related to the paper quality used, by instance, is a coated paper eating
more ink than a gloosy one, or a satin one, or...



The second question is about ink consumption too: what surface of paper can
be covered for average photo printing? If someone has an experience of
his/her costs of ink in relationship to the square meter surface covered,
that could be great.

And the third is in the same range: has somebody tested the refilling of
such big cartridges ? If so, where to put the ink?

Thanks,

On Nov 17, 8:56 am, "xenufrance" <xenufra...@free.fr> wrote:
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>
> I have access to a Canon 24" W6400 inkjet printer.
>
> I would like to know if there is somewhere a comparison of ink consumption
> related to the paper quality used, by instance, is a coated paper eating
> more ink than a gloosy one, or a satin one, or...
>
> The second question is about ink consumption too: what surface of paper can
> be covered for average photo printing? If someone has an experience of
> his/her costs of ink in relationship to the square meter surface covered,
> that could be great.
>
> And the third is in the same range: has somebody tested the refilling of
> such big cartridges ? If so, where to put the ink?
>
> Thanks,

Don't think they'd be "eating" ink -- short of software<>ROM controls
for controlling the nozzle feed. Of course, each paper type exhibits
its own characteristics, specialization and usages. Depending, what
I've read, photos in any average sense could vary from using women's
hair spray for protection (seen artists use it in cheap "sidewalk"
pastel sales) -- to actual clay coated inkjet paper for commercial art
grade productions mounted behind a frame with a non-reflective glass
surface. Suppose it's like silk versus cotton canvas for a gesso
background (marble dust and horse glue) -- Pablo, for instance, used
the silk since he already knows the weight of his paint will be equal
gold, whereas Pollack, who mixes in string and rocks, settles for
cotton since they'll eventually crack up, anyway.

Me, I'm afraid of them and decided on a cheapo b&w laser. Seems to
me, manufacturers keep on making them for increasing difficulty <read
cost attentive> for consumable ends. Used to study it a little, but
gave up when I'd found everyone all settled and happy, blogging away
at filling one model or another, only to start my pricings, where
superceded models manufacturers replaced appeared almost invariably as
if designed for preventative consumable friendliness.

Needless to say -- color commercial graphics isn't my avocation.

"Flasherly" <Flasherly@live.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> On Nov 17, 8:56 am, "xenufrance" <xenufra...@free.fr> wrote:
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>>
>> I have access to a Canon 24" W6400 inkjet printer.
>>
>> I would like to know if there is somewhere a comparison of ink
>> consumption
>> related to the paper quality used, by instance, is a coated paper eating
>> more ink than a gloosy one, or a satin one, or...
>>
>> The second question is about ink consumption too: what surface of paper
>> can
>> be covered for average photo printing? If someone has an experience of
>> his/her costs of ink in relationship to the square meter surface covered,
>> that could be great.
>>
>> And the third is in the same range: has somebody tested the refilling of
>> such big cartridges ? If so, where to put the ink?
>>
>> Thanks,
>
> Don't think they'd be "eating" ink -- short of software<>ROM controls
> for controlling the nozzle feed. Of course, each paper type exhibits
> its own characteristics, specialization and usages. Depending, what
> I've read, photos in any average sense could vary from using women's
> hair spray for protection (seen artists use it in cheap "sidewalk"
> pastel sales) -- to actual clay coated inkjet paper for commercial art
> grade productions mounted behind a frame with a non-reflective glass
> surface. Suppose it's like silk versus cotton canvas for a gesso
> background (marble dust and horse glue) -- Pablo, for instance, used
> the silk since he already knows the weight of his paint will be equal
> gold, whereas Pollack, who mixes in string and rocks, settles for
> cotton since they'll eventually crack up, anyway.
>
> Me, I'm afraid of them and decided on a cheapo b&w laser. Seems to
> me, manufacturers keep on making them for increasing difficulty <read
> cost attentive> for consumable ends. Used to study it a little, but
> gave up when I'd found everyone all settled and happy, blogging away
> at filling one model or another, only to start my pricings, where
> superceded models manufacturers replaced appeared almost invariably as
> if designed for preventative consumable friendliness.
>
> Needless to say -- color commercial graphics isn't my avocation.

Thanks, but indeed, that was not answering the questions, since it's not
possible to compare mechanical systems to hand ones. And the laser large
format printers (over 17") are very expansive, not to be compared to ink
ones.

Besides, I doubt Picasso used silk on his oils rather than linen, the
oldest great support for oil paintings. Or did I misunderstood you about
that?

thanks,

I don't use Canon printers, but as a general rule, the ink usage is
about like this (based upon how the driver is set up, because the paper
doesn't directly determine the amount of ink used, but the setting the
driver is set for does.


Most ink: coated clay coated matte paper

: Swellable polymer glossy or satin papers

: Plain bond paper

: Coated glossy or satin (RC) type papers

Least ink: plastic backed films or transparency films

However Canon drivers may use somewhat differing ratios.

Art


If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:

http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/

xenufrance wrote:
> (x no-archive: yes)
>
>
> I have access to a Canon 24" W6400 inkjet printer.
>
> I would like to know if there is somewhere a comparison of ink consumption
> related to the paper quality used, by instance, is a coated paper eating
> more ink than a gloosy one, or a satin one, or...
>
>
>
> The second question is about ink consumption too: what surface of paper can
> be covered for average photo printing? If someone has an experience of
> his/her costs of ink in relationship to the square meter surface covered,
> that could be great.
>
> And the third is in the same range: has somebody tested the refilling of
> such big cartridges ? If so, where to put the ink?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
>
>

"xenufrance" <xenufrance@free.fr> wrote:

> (x no-archive: yes)
>
>
> I have access to a Canon 24" W6400 inkjet printer.
>
> I would like to know if there is somewhere a comparison of ink consumption
> related to the paper quality used, by instance, is a coated paper eating
> more ink than a gloosy one, or a satin one, or...
>
>
> The second question is about ink consumption too: what surface of paper can
> be covered for average photo printing? If someone has an experience of
> his/her costs of ink in relationship to the square meter surface covered,
> that could be great.
>
> And the third is in the same range: has somebody tested the refilling of
> such big cartridges ? If so, where to put the ink?
>
> Thanks,

The printer doesn't care what type of paper you gonna print to, all
printers give you different quality levels to chose. Or you can set to
draft, regular paper, photo paper, Photo Glossy Paper, Premium, and TEXT
ONLY, Text & Graphic, Fine Print etc. then it will calculate the speed and
how to spray the ink to printer head.

Different printer, ink, paper may give different result which you may have
to try to see which one you like or dislike.

Thanks a lot Arthur, I started by issue #1, you did a great job there.

I'll keep on reading later.

Since the machine I was questioning for its comsumables is a pro printer, is
quite big (120 x 110x 60), I can imagine the first part does not apply to
such devices, since the needs are very different from non-professional
needs. It looks indeed quite well built (the head itself costs 6-700
dollars)

r


"Arthur Entlich" <e-printerhelp@mvps.org> a écrit dans le message de news:
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>I don't use Canon printers, but as a general rule, the ink usage is about
>like this (based upon how the driver is set up, because the paper doesn't
>directly determine the amount of ink used, but the setting the driver is
>set for does.
>
>
> Most ink: coated clay coated matte paper
>
> : Swellable polymer glossy or satin papers
>
> : Plain bond paper
>
> : Coated glossy or satin (RC) type papers
>
> Least ink: plastic backed films or transparency films
>
> However Canon drivers may use somewhat differing ratios.
>
> Art
>
>
> If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
> I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:
>
> http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/
>
> xenufrance wrote:
>> (x no-archive: yes)
>>
>>
>> I have access to a Canon 24" W6400 inkjet printer.
>>
>> I would like to know if there is somewhere a comparison of ink
>> consumption related to the paper quality used, by instance, is a coated
>> paper eating more ink than a gloosy one, or a satin one, or...
>>
>>
>>
>> The second question is about ink consumption too: what surface of paper
>> can be covered for average photo printing? If someone has an experience
>> of his/her costs of ink in relationship to the square meter surface
>> covered, that could be great.
>>
>> And the third is in the same range: has somebody tested the refilling of
>> such big cartridges ? If so, where to put the ink?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>>