Which LINUX, like Windows, only gets around a 46/100 score on CIS Tool as well, mind you, by default in its outta the box default setup!

(I.E.-> Do you REALLY think even an SeLinux bearing distro is "secure as possible" outta-the-tox/oem stock?)

WELL- IF SO? Then, see the 1st post of this thread... (it shows you QUITE otherwise)

CIS Tool is a MULTIPLATFORM gauge of security, based on "industry best practices", & yes, those practices DO work... I just layer on MORE you can use, to both speed yourself up online, but more importantly, secure yourself more, too (above those industry std. practices no less).

&, it ALL works.



Likewise to you, especially in regards to your reply regarding LINUX, but I do not think you are being facetious (wise guy here, either)...

POINT-BLANK:

You skimmed my man, & failed to notice that even LINUX (not that it IS any more secure than Windows is, outta the box period) doesn't do too well outta the box/stock, in its default setup - because again: There are photos of scores from LINUX as well, in the 1st post I did here!

APK

P.S.=> Either you skimmed (excusable, believe me, I am NOT above it myself @ times)... or, you don't know as much about LINUX as you'd like to think... apk

Double post, sorry!



APK

Anybody interested in securing a PC, as fully as possible?

Yes!

(In fact, I have seen it!)

E.G./I.E.-> I have had a great deal of people do so, & to good results... Would you like proofs of this?? I can supply that (&, quite quickly in fact).

AND, from many sites this past year (since Jan. 2008) where it was rated either:
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  Rated 5/5 stars

• Instantly made a "sticky/pinned thread"

• Instantly made an "essential guide" (or, all 3 of the last ones noted in this list)

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* HECK: 1 even PAID ME for this content ($100 January 2008 winner @ PCPitstop.com in fact).

APK

P.S.=> Others, who may be afflicted with say, Dyslexia, or "ADD" (for whatever THAT means)? Probably not... nor those not interested in the security of a PC online!

(Because, Hey, I.E. - I can lead a horse to water, I cannot make him drink it, & that is that)... apk

Dementia.

Folks w/ that are excused also...



* That is NOT their fault (hdd's in brain are losing format!)

APK

Ok, mon ami, I guess you have an agenda

I haven't seen any blatant advertising, just some extremely frantic advice, so I shall leave this thread be

Yes - to help stop (or, @ least stall) the massive online attacks occurring out here online, today & for the past few years... because for years now professionally in this field, that has been part of my duties daily!

(&, this post? It is to "turn others on", to the simplicity of securing their systems, via an EASY TO USE tool for it that reviewed well in COMPUTERWORLD (which CIS Tool did))

CIS Tool just plain makes it far easier, rather than having to know the details of online networking, by far, & also every registry + file entry involved to secure one's self too!

Almost "FUN" to do, like any benchmark is... & it is MULTIPLATFORM (so, folks who use Linux distro variants, Solaris, & even BSD variants (no MacOS X version though, sorry) can run it also, per my advice to the poster above, in Abarbarian).

What I additionally "layer on", ontop of CIS Tool's advisements, works also... very well in fact!



Yes, no advertising... just helping!



* OF COURSE, again: I can only lead horses to water... I cannot make them drink it!

APK

SIMPLICITY?????

Sorry you lost me on Post1.

This level of work, securing a PC? NOT "ROCKET-SCIENCE"... far from it in fact!



Especially compared to OTHER areas this field has... & ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING CIS TOOL MAKES THIS LITERALLY, as easy as it gets, & IS multiplatform too!



Well, again:

By comparison to other areas of this field (e.g.-> coding? Networking is s snap)...

After all - MOST network tasks involve using the code others design for you to USE...

(However, by comparison to coding, where YOU design the solution... often one never done before, especially in the case of custom IS/MIS/IT coding? VERY little actual creation happens by way of comparison from being into "network engineering/administrations" vs. coding, period (well, logon scripts & maybe firewalling type rulesets, A/D manipulations, etc. & log parsing @ MOST, software-wise - yes, oversimplifying some, but NOT too much either)).

I do both simultaneously for a living & have for nearly 16 yrs. now (many times published in written print in this field, since 1996, in places such as Windows-NT Magazine (now known as Windows IT Pro mag) & many others, to the total sum of around 10x now, from 1996-2002)) & thus?

I can FREELY comment on both... though network admins won't LIKE that, it IS the truth, period.

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ANYHOW/ANYWAYS:

Download the CIS Tool (completely free) & run it.. then, comment. Reserve judgement on something, until you try it!



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* You'll see that it makes securing ANY personal computer OS (well, MOST any) a snap... easily, by comparison to knowing every config file/registry entry etc. et al, there is that is involved in actually doing this, manually...

E.G.-> If you like doing say, PC Benchmarks, for performances' sake? You'll most likely LIKE this one, too... but, that remains to be seen.

(I.E.-> Trust me on 1 thing: Doing it WITHOUT the CIS Tool, is a LOT more work & demands far more understanding than most folks possess about their PC &/or Operating Systems, let alone the IP Stack & how it works, online & in networking)

APK

P.S.=> Then again, if this is too much for you? Then, skip it... simple! Because, as I have stated to ABarbarian & your moderator/administrator here, repeatedly now??

WELL - I can only lead horses to water, I cannot make them drink... apk

After all of these "It's TOO hard", or "It's too long" etc. et al type replies?

All I can say, is this:

IF you refuse to learn something new? That's your hassle...

(Because this tool (CIS Tool) makes this fairly 'complex' subject, as easy as it gets... & it is multiplatform. I have found NO other like it, or nearly as comprehensive)

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Additionally? The ONLY folks I have really seen "beetch" about this guide??

Javascript coders, or webmasters usually!

(ESPECIALLY regarding HOSTS files, but, then, if the bad adbanners wouldn't popup on sites the past 3-4 years now, there would not BE a problem like that)...

Why? Well, it may cause them to lose out on SOME revenues!

Mainly, because I strongly recommend blocking adbanners for BOTH security AND speed... & turning off JavaScript (the root vector tool used to infect folks the MOST nowadays, & sites like secunia can prove that much, easily)...

Of course, there is the folks that run places like "the RBN" (look them up too if need be) that DEFINITELY do NOT LIKE IT (as they are known to be behind many the exploit out there online, today)

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The "bright-side" of this, especially for network admins/engineers + techs? Folks that refuse to secure themselves better online, keep them (us, I am one too, as well as being a coder) IN A JOB!

* Thanks for that much I guess...

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HOWEVER: As I told your mod/administrator here? I can quite literally & QUICKLY show many forums where folks DID employ this material, to GOOD effect no less (no more security hassles that I know of), & I DID HELP FOLKS THRU VARIOUS SECTIONS THAT "CONFUSED THEM" as well... when asked to do so.

E.G.-> This site, see Thronka, midweskid, &/or AlexStarFire + their questions (& more importantly, their results):

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=246538&page=5

There, thru @ least 4 folks thru its pages, I helped them thru issues they had implementing CIS Tool's suggestions list... for AlexStarFire, in particular? This resulted in the ABSOLUTELY HIGHEST SCORE I HAVE EVER SEEN FROM A WINDOWS USER no less (on XP, I use Windows Server 2003 SP #2 fully hotfix patched, which has been noted as "the most secure Windows to date" from various sources).

APK

P.S.=> Again: I can only lead horses to water, I cannot make them drink... apk