.NET CF & Hardreset - still not possible?

Hello

Is it really not possible to perform a hardreset with newer devices using
..NET CF?

Thanks

Rampf

Has nothing to do with CF or native code. If the OEM provides a capability
to do it, then you can. If they don't you can't. Can't see really any good
reason for an application to ever hard reset - that would effectively erase
the application itself - unless you're in ROM, and in that case you're
probably the OEM and you'd have a hook to do the hard reset anyway.


--

Chris Tacke, Embedded MVP
OpenNETCF Consulting
Giving back to the embedded community
http://community.OpenNETCF.com


"Rampf" <rampf@rampf.com> wrote in message
news:ueO2z7OnIHA.4664@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hello
>
> Is it really not possible to perform a hardreset with newer devices using
> .NET CF?
>
> Thanks
>
> Rampf

Thanks Chris

It would be a security feature for our devices to remotly wipe the device...



"Chris Tacke, eMVP" <ctacke.at.opennetcf.dot.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:%23CVVUrPnIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Has nothing to do with CF or native code. If the OEM provides a
> capability to do it, then you can. If they don't you can't. Can't see
> really any good reason for an application to ever hard reset - that would
> effectively erase the application itself - unless you're in ROM, and in
> that case you're probably the OEM and you'd have a hook to do the hard
> reset anyway.
>
>
> --
>
> Chris Tacke, Embedded MVP
> OpenNETCF Consulting
> Giving back to the embedded community
> http://community.OpenNETCF.com
>
>
> "Rampf" <rampf@rampf.com> wrote in message
> news:ueO2z7OnIHA.4664@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Hello
>>
>> Is it really not possible to perform a hardreset with newer devices using
>> .NET CF?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Rampf
>
>

On Apr 13, 12:20*am, "Rampf" <ra...@rampf.com> wrote:
> Thanks Chris
>
> It would be a security feature for our devices to remotly wipe the device....
>
> "Chris Tacke, eMVP" <ctacke.at.opennetcf.dot.com> schrieb im Newsbeitragnews:%23CVVUrPnIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
>
>
> > Has nothing to do with CF or native code. *If the OEM provides a
> > capability to do it, then you can. *If they don't you can't. *Can't see
> > really any good reason for an application to ever hard reset - that would
> > effectively erase the application itself - unless you're in ROM, and in
> > that case you're probably the OEM and you'd have a hook to do the hard
> > reset anyway.
>
> > --
>
> > Chris Tacke, Embedded MVP
> > OpenNETCF Consulting
> > Giving back to the embedded community
> >http://community.OpenNETCF.com
>
> > "Rampf" <ra...@rampf.com> wrote in message
> >news:ueO2z7OnIHA.4664@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> Hello
>
> >> Is it really not possible to perform a hardreset with newer devices using
> >> .NET CF?
>
> >> Thanks
>
> >> Rampf- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You'll have to speak to your device manufaturer on which you are
supporting your application to provide you API to hard reset the
phone. There is a way to do it but i think this won't work on all the
devices.

try following if it helps you.

SetCleanRebootFlag();
KernelIoControl(IOCTL_HAL_REBOOT, NULL, 0, NULL, 0, NULL);

As Chris said, the OEM has provide capability to do it. SetCleanRebootFlag()
will work in the emulator but not in most devices (especially device running
WM5)

In Windows Mobile 6 you can use the RemoteWipe CSP. P/Invoke
DMProcessConfigXML from aygshell.dll and pass this:

<wap-provisioningdoc>
<characteristic type="RemoteWipe">
<parm name="doWipe" value="1"/>
</characteristic>
</wap-provisioningdoc>

as the XML configuration data. If the app is trusted then the device will
immediately do a cold reboot after executing the command.

Here's an MSDN link to DMProcessConfigXML
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms852998.aspx


--
Regards,
Christian Resma Helle
http://christian-helle.blogspot.com


"gupta25" <gupta25@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:66793b5d-66d9-4ad2-9995-b11a8c1014bb@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 13, 12:20 am, "Rampf" <ra...@rampf.com> wrote:
> Thanks Chris
>
> It would be a security feature for our devices to remotly wipe the
> device...
>
> "Chris Tacke, eMVP" <ctacke.at.opennetcf.dot.com> schrieb im
> Newsbeitragnews:%23CVVUrPnIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
>
>
> > Has nothing to do with CF or native code. If the OEM provides a
> > capability to do it, then you can. If they don't you can't. Can't see
> > really any good reason for an application to ever hard reset - that
> > would
> > effectively erase the application itself - unless you're in ROM, and in
> > that case you're probably the OEM and you'd have a hook to do the hard
> > reset anyway.
>
> > --
>
> > Chris Tacke, Embedded MVP
> > OpenNETCF Consulting
> > Giving back to the embedded community
> >http://community.OpenNETCF.com
>
> > "Rampf" <ra...@rampf.com> wrote in message
> >news:ueO2z7OnIHA.4664@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> Hello
>
> >> Is it really not possible to perform a hardreset with newer devices
> >> using
> >> .NET CF?
>
> >> Thanks
>
> >> Rampf- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You'll have to speak to your device manufaturer on which you are
supporting your application to provide you API to hard reset the
phone. There is a way to do it but i think this won't work on all the
devices.

try following if it helps you.

SetCleanRebootFlag();
KernelIoControl(IOCTL_HAL_REBOOT, NULL, 0, NULL, 0, NULL);

No need to platform invoke DMProcessConfigXML from WM5 and onwards as its
supported with this method:
Microsoft.WindowsMobile.Configuration.ConfigurationManager.ProcessConfiguration()
--
Simon Hart
Visual Developer - Device Application Development MVP
http://simonrhart.blogspot.com


"Christian Resma Helle" wrote:

> As Chris said, the OEM has provide capability to do it. SetCleanRebootFlag()
> will work in the emulator but not in most devices (especially device running
> WM5)
>
> In Windows Mobile 6 you can use the RemoteWipe CSP. P/Invoke
> DMProcessConfigXML from aygshell.dll and pass this:
>
> <wap-provisioningdoc>
> <characteristic type="RemoteWipe">
> <parm name="doWipe" value="1"/>
> </characteristic>
> </wap-provisioningdoc>
>
> as the XML configuration data. If the app is trusted then the device will
> immediately do a cold reboot after executing the command.
>
> Here's an MSDN link to DMProcessConfigXML
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms852998.aspx
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Christian Resma Helle
> http://christian-helle.blogspot.com
>
>
> "gupta25" <gupta25@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:66793b5d-66d9-4ad2-9995-b11a8c1014bb@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 13, 12:20 am, "Rampf" <ra...@rampf.com> wrote:
> > Thanks Chris
> >
> > It would be a security feature for our devices to remotly wipe the
> > device...
> >
> > "Chris Tacke, eMVP" <ctacke.at.opennetcf.dot.com> schrieb im
> > Newsbeitragnews:%23CVVUrPnIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >
> >
> >
> > > Has nothing to do with CF or native code. If the OEM provides a
> > > capability to do it, then you can. If they don't you can't. Can't see
> > > really any good reason for an application to ever hard reset - that
> > > would
> > > effectively erase the application itself - unless you're in ROM, and in
> > > that case you're probably the OEM and you'd have a hook to do the hard
> > > reset anyway.
> >
> > > --
> >
> > > Chris Tacke, Embedded MVP
> > > OpenNETCF Consulting
> > > Giving back to the embedded community
> > >http://community.OpenNETCF.com
> >
> > > "Rampf" <ra...@rampf.com> wrote in message
> > >news:ueO2z7OnIHA.4664@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > >> Hello
> >
> > >> Is it really not possible to perform a hardreset with newer devices
> > >> using
> > >> .NET CF?
> >
> > >> Thanks
> >
> > >> Rampf- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> You'll have to speak to your device manufaturer on which you are
> supporting your application to provide you API to hard reset the
> phone. There is a way to do it but i think this won't work on all the
> devices.
>
> try following if it helps you.
>
> SetCleanRebootFlag();
> KernelIoControl(IOCTL_HAL_REBOOT, NULL, 0, NULL, 0, NULL);
>

Thanks Simon! I never knew it was part of the Managed Windows Mobile SDK

--
Regards,
Christian Resma Helle
http://christian-helle.blogspot.com


"Simon Hart [MVP]" <srhartone@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:AD3400FD-33CC-4F9A-8A6C-0FFF163101DC@microsoft.com...
> No need to platform invoke DMProcessConfigXML from WM5 and onwards as its
> supported with this method:
> Microsoft.WindowsMobile.Configuration.ConfigurationManager.ProcessConfiguration()
> --
> Simon Hart
> Visual Developer - Device Application Development MVP
> http://simonrhart.blogspot.com
>
>
> "Christian Resma Helle" wrote:
>
>> As Chris said, the OEM has provide capability to do it.
>> SetCleanRebootFlag()
>> will work in the emulator but not in most devices (especially device
>> running
>> WM5)
>>
>> In Windows Mobile 6 you can use the RemoteWipe CSP. P/Invoke
>> DMProcessConfigXML from aygshell.dll and pass this:
>>
>> <wap-provisioningdoc>
>> <characteristic type="RemoteWipe">
>> <parm name="doWipe" value="1"/>
>> </characteristic>
>> </wap-provisioningdoc>
>>
>> as the XML configuration data. If the app is trusted then the device will
>> immediately do a cold reboot after executing the command.
>>
>> Here's an MSDN link to DMProcessConfigXML
>> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms852998.aspx
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Christian Resma Helle
>> http://christian-helle.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>> "gupta25" <gupta25@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:66793b5d-66d9-4ad2-9995-b11a8c1014bb@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Apr 13, 12:20 am, "Rampf" <ra...@rampf.com> wrote:
>> > Thanks Chris
>> >
>> > It would be a security feature for our devices to remotly wipe the
>> > device...
>> >
>> > "Chris Tacke, eMVP" <ctacke.at.opennetcf.dot.com> schrieb im
>> > Newsbeitragnews:%23CVVUrPnIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Has nothing to do with CF or native code. If the OEM provides a
>> > > capability to do it, then you can. If they don't you can't. Can't see
>> > > really any good reason for an application to ever hard reset - that
>> > > would
>> > > effectively erase the application itself - unless you're in ROM, and
>> > > in
>> > > that case you're probably the OEM and you'd have a hook to do the
>> > > hard
>> > > reset anyway.
>> >
>> > > --
>> >
>> > > Chris Tacke, Embedded MVP
>> > > OpenNETCF Consulting
>> > > Giving back to the embedded community
>> > >http://community.OpenNETCF.com
>> >
>> > > "Rampf" <ra...@rampf.com> wrote in message
>> > >news:ueO2z7OnIHA.4664@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> > >> Hello
>> >
>> > >> Is it really not possible to perform a hardreset with newer devices
>> > >> using
>> > >> .NET CF?
>> >
>> > >> Thanks
>> >
>> > >> Rampf- Hide quoted text -
>> >
>> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> You'll have to speak to your device manufaturer on which you are
>> supporting your application to provide you API to hard reset the
>> phone. There is a way to do it but i think this won't work on all the
>> devices.
>>
>> try following if it helps you.
>>
>> SetCleanRebootFlag();
>> KernelIoControl(IOCTL_HAL_REBOOT, NULL, 0, NULL, 0, NULL);
>>