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Old 15-04-2008, 09:28 AM   #11
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http://kanotix.org/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-24154.html

A bit of relevant info here , 3rd post down , its a thread for the last build which is not realy relevant for the majority of stuff . Finding info on this build is a bit like looking for a needle in a haystack . Now if only we spoke or read german .

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Old 15-04-2008, 06:35 PM   #12
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There you have a green light from Ian so go for it mate..

You should know that although not many may reply to posts they still get read by a lot of people..
And with the amount of work that goes into posting a walkthrough with pics, I would always acknowledge the authors effort as I know how much work goes into posting topics on here..Keep up the good work Ab..

We'll be watching and reading don't you worry..
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Post Installing to a USB HDD with a /home partition .

I ought to mention this as it is a bit odd . I gave away the two copies of the live cd I had made so I burnt another one . When I tried to use it it would not load . Drat I thought mebees I'll give it another try . This time it loaded but the graphics were not quite right . Still convinced I had a bad burn I gave it another try . This time it worked just fine . Why did I bother to tell you this ? All will be revealed .

Now on with the show .

First of all plug in your usb hard disk .

Well I did say this was a guide for muppets , didn't I ?

Load up the Live CD .





You will see or not as the case may be , that the usb drive does not show up on the desktop . Ah ha !

Launch the AcritoxInstaller .



Highlight Install and click "Next".

Now there is a couple of pics missing and I'm too tired to re-do them .

Not the only thing missing , notice the usb drive icons , course you didn't , they are missing . Ah ha !

You should get a window with lots of options for PARTITIONING . Choose the "MANUAL" option .

You should get to a window with options like "Already Partitioned " or "GParted" and a couple of other choices. Go for the "GParted" I think its the second one down .




This is where you hopefully will end up but its not where you need to be . The drive /dev/sda1 is my main hard drive . You need to be .......................




here . The "unallocated partition" is /dev/sdb which is the usb hard drive .





Here you can see that I have created four partitions . I'm sure you can work out how to do this . I could have made the partitions smaller but I wanted to make sure that they would be big enough for future needs .
Click on Close after the operations have completed.




Got something like this showing and you can close down GParted .




I have a feeling that another screen shot when missing . Anyways keep clicking "Next" till you get to here .
An then guess what ? Yep , that's right click on "Next".
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“My mind,” he said, “rebels at stagnation. Give me problems, give me work, give me the most abstruse cryptogram or the most intricate analysis, and I am in my own proper atmosphere. I can dispense then with artificial stimulants. But I abhor the dull routine of existence. I crave for mental exaltation. That is why I have chosen my own particular profession, — or rather created it, for I am the only one in the world.”

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Old 15-04-2008, 11:58 PM   #14
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Highlight /dev/sdb1 and then click on the tab "advanced partition options".





Yep , click "Next" .





Here you can alter the last entry to read " /home" in the Mount Point column and set it format as "ext3" . Another missing screenshot . I'm beginning to suspect a serial killer is at work . Better click next and move on quickly .




Do not choose this option .




This is a better one . Cick "Next" .





Now the difficult bit . Finding a pesky password and remembering it . Click "Next".





Even more difficult . Pesky passwords . Click "Next" .






This is harder than writing a book . Click "Next" .

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“My mind,” he said, “rebels at stagnation. Give me problems, give me work, give me the most abstruse cryptogram or the most intricate analysis, and I am in my own proper atmosphere. I can dispense then with artificial stimulants. But I abhor the dull routine of existence. I crave for mental exaltation. That is why I have chosen my own particular profession, — or rather created it, for I am the only one in the world.”

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Nearly done . Check the details are correct . Thats " /dev/sdb1 will be used as " the partition to where the Kanotix OS will be installed . Also that " /dev/sdb4 will be used as /home " that is a permanent partition for your /home folders . These /home folders should be safe if the os becomes corrupted and need a install , this should save some time and heartache if I have understood correctly . I'm still a bit hazy on this point so we will have to see as time goes by .
A change here . Scroll down .





An make sure that the Bootloader is going to be installed in " /dev/sdb "
Now click on , wait for it , the "install now" box . Which will un-grey the "Next" box which you then click on . They say a good writer will find many different ways of describing the same thing . That's my free tip of the day .





You should end up here .

Well done . you are now the operator of a fully installed Kanotix OS installed on your usb hard drive .

You'll see that " /dev/sdb2 " and " /dev/sdb3 " are unknown volume types . That is because we did not format them as we do not need them for this exercise . I created them so that I can install different linux distros to them and hopefully they will be able to share the " /home " partition , like I said before I have to fully understand and explore this idea , but from what I have read it works . You could have just had two partitions instead of the four I created or you could have just had one partition . It seems safer to have at least two partitions so thats the way I have gone .

Now before we go on to the last few screenshots , do you remember the tale I told at the beginning of this guide ? You do , good as it is quite relevant .

You see I clicked on the "Finish " button and was sent to the desktop but it had not changed . No extra drives were showing just the 31 GB drive that was part of "/dev/sda" which is my main hard drive with Windows on it . I could not find any sign of the USB Drive at all . So I shut down the pc , convinced that something was amiss .
Tried to fire up the pc and booted from the usb drive . The os started to load and then seemed to stick . I gave it plenty of time and shutdown , convinced that something had gone wrong with the install.
I gave it one last try . fired up the pc , booted from the usb drive , and, bingo , Kanotix was alive and well on the usb drive . Now what was that pesky password .





As you can see the USB Drives are showing up . Here is the Kanotix OS .



Here is the " /dev/sdb4 " as a "/home" partition .




An here is "/dev/sda1" with the Windows OS on it .

Its interesting to note that the Windows XP Pro installed takes up 3.2 GB of space with very few installed programs or uninstalled program files and I recon it took a noticeable while longer to install . That was to a SATA II main HDD .
The Kanotix was installed to a usb drive so you would have thought it would have taken longer to install and it seems to have a shedfull of programs or program files included so you would assume that it would be a bigger footprint . That is not the case . It took a noticeably shorter time to install to a slower drive and it filled 2.1 GB of the partition that's a thirty percent smaller footprint .
There is a down side to the Kanotix install and its a pretty big one . You do have to think of two new passwords . Now that could put a lot of folk of using the os .


So that is this guide concluded . I still have to give this install a real good run through to see if it all works but I am confident it will .


That as they say is all for now folks .

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Post Updating The Kanotix

As with all fresh installs the first thing you should do is update .

So lets do just that .



Open up the KPackage Package Manager .




Next on to "HELP" and the "KPackage Handbook" .




Find the sub section "Specila Menu" . This will give you some information about our next actions .




Onwards to "Special" , "APT Debian" , "UPDATE" .



Here you are asked for your ROOT password . Also here we have some more missing steps . I had already done some of the updates befor I statrted this walkthrough . They are very much the same as the steps for "UPGRADE" . So read on and then backtrack . Just like a pc game really .





Now we need "Special" , "APT Debian" , "UPGRADE" .




You arrive at a information window . This tells you what will be and how many updates there are . Also information on the type of upgrade . Type a " Y " if you want to upgrade , then "ENTER" .




Packages are downloading and you are informed as to progress as the window scrolls .





It took about an hour on my slow connection to arrive at the end . As you can see my download shows an error . So I had to run through the sequence again but this time it only took 4 minutes as there were only the error modules to be obtained .
That is the end of updating .
As you can see it did not take very long . It would be unfair to compare the process with a Windows full update . As this distro is only several months old wheras XP has been around for about seven years so you would expect more updates for XP . Still even if you had XP and SP3 it would take a bit longer I think and you would still have to connect to the Microsoft site for a few more updates on top of XP and SP3 . One more slight swing in Kanotix's favour is that not only is the main OS smaller in size , the updates are much smaller than XP's also .

Lastly it may help some slower systems if the temporary Package Folder Cache is cleared .





You can clean up individual files but I have highlighted the Package Folder Cache as this will clean up all the temporarily downloaded folders and files . Once you have clicked on this highlighted link nothing seems to happen , I'm reliably informed something does happen .

So you can close the window if you like or leave it open for the next exiting instalment .

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Lightbulb Installing A New Program In Kanotix

While the KPackage Manager is open why not install a new program . It won't take long . Wink wink .





Wink that's the name of the program I'll install . See its highlighted and a description shows on the right hand side . Notice the Large green "N" remember it .Click on "Install"




The download begins .




Download complete and the instillation starts and quickly finishes . Click on "DONE" .




You can see that you have a new program installed as the little icon on the left in the highlighted box has changed from a large green "N" denoting "NOT INSTALLED" to a hmmmmmmm my eyesight is not good enough to see what the icons is meant to be . Mind you it might be a not so clear screenshot .

Now I can not remember if the program will show up in the main menu or if you have to run the "MENU UPDATING TOOL" . That is another tale for another walkthrough or you could work it out yourself .


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Lightbulb Kanotix Hdd Install Needs Sound Installing

All the boring bits over and done with . Lets play with this OS . Hmmm a video or a tune . Kaffeine wins out and the movie plays . what's this I here , the sound of silence . No sound .
A quick post on the Kanotix forum , they reply pretty darn quickly . We need to install the sound drivers . Oh no ! I hear you cry .
Don't worry it will be painless ,
I promise .



I like the penguins .





Open the "KONSOLE TERMINAL PROGRAM" .





Type " su " and then press ENTER.




Here you need your ROOT password .




Type " alsaconf " then press ENTER .





Click " OK " .





Highlight your choice and click " OK " .





Click " YES " here . Don't ask me how to configure the whatsit as I don't have a clue . I may need to figure it out at some point .





Click " OK " . Did you notice that OS uses the phrase " Now I will load the " its that use of the " I " that gets me . I think this OS maybe has a mind of its own developing , shades of HAL an all that .





All done ! With a very cheery " Have a lot of FUN " as a parting message from our friendly OS . This is where I will say toodle pip too .



The sound works just fine though maybe a little gravelly . Could just be Tom Waits though .
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I read through this whole thread last night and thoroughly enjoyed it You explained things well and in such an entertaining manner that I just kept reading - and even learning something Your pics are a big help too, enabling one to see exactly what was going on at each step

Hmmm... it wouldn't surprise me to hear that quite a few folk will be trying out Kanotix for themselves after this

Take a bow Abarbarian, that's super piece of work.
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Thanks Taffycat , its always nice to get some feedback .

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