Ableton Live - Terratec Phase 26 usb - how?

Hi,

Desperately need some advice and was wondering if you could help?

I want to be able to use Ableton Live 7 as a traditional DJ tool,
being able to hear the cueing track through headphones separately from
the master volume. For this I assume I need a dual-output soundcard? I
have an external soundcard with a number of inputs and outputs but
cant seem to configure my set up to work in the way i want it too.

What i want to do seems incredibly simple: in Ableton set the master
to route out via 1/2 stereo and set the cue to route out through 3/4.
The soundcard appears to have the settings and sockets (lines out) to
do this but i cant seem to get any sound out of it

My current set-up consists of PC, Ableton Live 7 and Terratec Phase 26
USB (I also have an old Phonic MM1002 mixer I want to use for inputs
like mics but assume this does not need to be considered in the
equation for this specific problem).
For performance purposes I saw on a forum that ASIO4ALL could be used
to convert the wdm driver to ASIO if preferred working that way. I
dont fully understand this

but strangely the preferences>output config in Ableton Live gives me a
number of output channels when ASIO4ALL is only picking up my onboard
single channel soundcard (?!) which I have connected separately to my
amp for desktop sound. Whenever set ASIO4ALL (or Ableton without
ASIO4ALL) to use my external soundcard Ableton only sees stereo
1/2.Considering how many input/output options the soundcard offers I
assumed it had dual output capability but i am now starting to doubt
that (although then i am also not sure why the soundcard has those
output sockets?).

I am getting incredibly disheartened and frustrated and thinking I
have been sold a dud. What i want to do seems incredibly simple: in
Ableton set the master to route out via 1/2 stereo and set the cue to
route out through 3/4. The soundcard appears to have the settings and
sockets (lines out) to do this but i cant seem to get any
sound out of it.

I am waiting on support from Ableton (if they can or will help on
separate
hardware) but the support on the Terratec website might as well be non-
existant
whilst my vendor Thomann seem to have abandoned me. This is why I'm
scouring groups
for info

If can please help!

thanks for your time

Simon

<SimonSaintSimon@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:34d696e1-74de-45a5-afaf-ebbdccf9097c@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
>
> Desperately need some advice and was wondering if you could help?
>
> I want to be able to use Ableton Live 7 as a traditional DJ tool,
> being able to hear the cueing track through headphones separately from
> the master volume. For this I assume I need a dual-output soundcard? I
> have an external soundcard with a number of inputs and outputs but
> cant seem to configure my set up to work in the way i want it too.
>
> What i want to do seems incredibly simple: in Ableton set the master
> to route out via 1/2 stereo and set the cue to route out through 3/4.
> The soundcard appears to have the settings and sockets (lines out) to
> do this but i cant seem to get any sound out of it
>
> My current set-up consists of PC, Ableton Live 7 and Terratec Phase 26
> USB (I also have an old Phonic MM1002 mixer I want to use for inputs
> like mics but assume this does not need to be considered in the
> equation for this specific problem).
> For performance purposes I saw on a forum that ASIO4ALL could be used
> to convert the wdm driver to ASIO if preferred working that way. I
> dont fully understand this
>
> but strangely the preferences>output config in Ableton Live gives me a
> number of output channels when ASIO4ALL is only picking up my onboard
> single channel soundcard (?!) which I have connected separately to my
> amp for desktop sound. Whenever set ASIO4ALL (or Ableton without
> ASIO4ALL) to use my external soundcard Ableton only sees stereo
> 1/2.Considering how many input/output options the soundcard offers I
> assumed it had dual output capability but i am now starting to doubt
> that (although then i am also not sure why the soundcard has those
> output sockets?).
>
> I am getting incredibly disheartened and frustrated and thinking I
> have been sold a dud. What i want to do seems incredibly simple: in
> Ableton set the master to route out via 1/2 stereo and set the cue to
> route out through 3/4. The soundcard appears to have the settings and
> sockets (lines out) to do this but i cant seem to get any
> sound out of it.
>
> I am waiting on support from Ableton (if they can or will help on
> separate
> hardware) but the support on the Terratec website might as well be non-
> existant
> whilst my vendor Thomann seem to have abandoned me. This is why I'm
> scouring groups
> for info
>
> If can please help!
>
> thanks for your time
>
> Simon
>

Try posting here :

http://www.productionforums.com/vie...69c8737d2a701e3

Cheers,
Jerry

<SimonSaintSimon@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:34d696e1-74de-45a5-afaf-ebbdccf9097c@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
>
> Desperately need some advice and was wondering if you could help?
>
> I want to be able to use Ableton Live 7 as a traditional DJ tool,
> being able to hear the cueing track through headphones separately from
> the master volume. For this I assume I need a dual-output soundcard? I
> have an external soundcard with a number of inputs and outputs but
> cant seem to configure my set up to work in the way i want it too.
>
> What i want to do seems incredibly simple: in Ableton set the master
> to route out via 1/2 stereo and set the cue to route out through 3/4.
> The soundcard appears to have the settings and sockets (lines out) to
> do this but i cant seem to get any sound out of it
>
> My current set-up consists of PC, Ableton Live 7 and Terratec Phase 26
> USB (I also have an old Phonic MM1002 mixer I want to use for inputs
> like mics but assume this does not need to be considered in the
> equation for this specific problem).
> For performance purposes I saw on a forum that ASIO4ALL could be used
> to convert the wdm driver to ASIO if preferred working that way. I
> dont fully understand this
>
> but strangely the preferences>output config in Ableton Live gives me a
> number of output channels when ASIO4ALL is only picking up my onboard
> single channel soundcard (?!) which I have connected separately to my
> amp for desktop sound. Whenever set ASIO4ALL (or Ableton without
> ASIO4ALL) to use my external soundcard Ableton only sees stereo
> 1/2.Considering how many input/output options the soundcard offers I
> assumed it had dual output capability but i am now starting to doubt
> that (although then i am also not sure why the soundcard has those
> output sockets?).
>
> I am getting incredibly disheartened and frustrated and thinking I
> have been sold a dud. What i want to do seems incredibly simple: in
> Ableton set the master to route out via 1/2 stereo and set the cue to
> route out through 3/4. The soundcard appears to have the settings and
> sockets (lines out) to do this but i cant seem to get any
> sound out of it.
>
> I am waiting on support from Ableton (if they can or will help on
> separate
> hardware) but the support on the Terratec website might as well be non-
> existant
> whilst my vendor Thomann seem to have abandoned me. This is why I'm
> scouring groups
> for info
>
> If can please help!
>
> thanks for your time
>
> Simon
>

Or here :

http://www.ableton.com/community

Cheers,
Jerry