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Old 25-03-2008, 03:39 AM   #1
Kris
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I ran XP, I installed Vista to the next partition, I want to eliminate XP,
but the Vista boot MANAGER is on the XP partition. I tried hiding the XP
partition, booting the Vista CD and doing a repair (twice) but when it
boots, it tells me NTLDR is missing.
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Old 25-03-2008, 05:15 AM   #2
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In article <17322sp97e1bo.dlg@myhost7.org>, Kris <a@b.net> says...
> I ran XP, I installed Vista to the next partition, I want to eliminate XP,
> but the Vista boot MANAGER is on the XP partition. I tried hiding the XP
> partition, booting the Vista CD and doing a repair (twice) but when it
> boots, it tells me NTLDR is missing.


Put the bootfiles from Vista at the Vista-partition and set the
bootindicator in the MBR at the Vista-partition.

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Old 25-03-2008, 07:52 AM   #3
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 07:15:11 +0100, Jawade wrote:

> In article <17322sp97e1bo.dlg@myhost7.org>, Kris <a@b.net> says...
>> I ran XP, I installed Vista to the next partition, I want to eliminate XP,
>> but the Vista boot MANAGER is on the XP partition. I tried hiding the XP
>> partition, booting the Vista CD and doing a repair (twice) but when it
>> boots, it tells me NTLDR is missing.

>
> Put the bootfiles from Vista at the Vista-partition and set the
> bootindicator in the MBR at the Vista-partition.


how?
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Old 25-03-2008, 02:39 PM   #4
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These websites should cover it:
http://pcproblems.wordpress.com/200...-vista-machine/

http://apcmag.com/5023/dual_booting_xp_with_vista
(last 2 paragraphs)

http://www.syschat.com/remove-xp-xp...-boot-1927.html

*TimDaniels*

"Kris" wrote:
>I ran XP, I installed Vista to the next partition, I want to eliminate XP,
> but the Vista boot MANAGER is on the XP partition. I tried hiding the XP
> partition, booting the Vista CD and doing a repair (twice) but when it
> boots, it tells me NTLDR is missing.
> --
> Kris



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Old 25-03-2008, 04:24 PM   #5
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:39:43 -0700, Timothy Daniels wrote:

> These websites should cover it:
> http://pcproblems.wordpress.com/200...-vista-machine/
>
> http://apcmag.com/5023/dual_booting_xp_with_vista
> (last 2 paragraphs)
>
> http://www.syschat.com/remove-xp-xp...-boot-1927.html
>
> *TimDaniels*
>
> "Kris" wrote:
>>I ran XP, I installed Vista to the next partition, I want to eliminate XP,
>> but the Vista boot MANAGER is on the XP partition. I tried hiding the XP
>> partition, booting the Vista CD and doing a repair (twice) but when it
>> boots, it tells me NTLDR is missing.
>> --
>> Kris


Well, they all look very interesting and I had high hopes for /fixboot, but
even after all that, the boot MANAGER is still on D (the XP partition) -
even when that partition has been deleted. And the last time I booted into
the Vista CD, it couldn't find Vista at all. If I put XP back in, it boots
just fine.

I know of no other way than to completely re-install Vista withoug XP
present on the system - what a pain. Should have done that initially and
used a 3rd party booter.
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Old 25-03-2008, 06:19 PM   #6
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In article <14v431r4i3ctq.dlg@myhost7.org>, Kris <a@b.net> says...
> On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 07:15:11 +0100, Jawade wrote:
>
> > In article <17322sp97e1bo.dlg@myhost7.org>, Kris <a@b.net> says...
> >> I ran XP, I installed Vista to the next partition, I want to eliminate XP,
> >> but the Vista boot MANAGER is on the XP partition. I tried hiding the XP
> >> partition, booting the Vista CD and doing a repair (twice) but when it
> >> boots, it tells me NTLDR is missing.

> >
> > Put the bootfiles from Vista at the Vista-partition and set the
> > bootindicator in the MBR at the Vista-partition.

>
> how?


With a diskeditor you can set the bootindicator at the Vista-partition.
The location for the first partition is 0x01BE and for the second
0x01CE, active is the value 0x80.

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Old 25-03-2008, 06:21 PM   #7
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In article <1kjmqjlplzsz3$.dlg@myhost7.org>, Kris <a@b.net> says...
> On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:39:43 -0700, Timothy Daniels wrote:
>
> > These websites should cover it:
> > http://pcproblems.wordpress.com/200...-vista-machine/
> >
> > http://apcmag.com/5023/dual_booting_xp_with_vista
> > (last 2 paragraphs)
> >
> > http://www.syschat.com/remove-xp-xp...-boot-1927.html
> >
> > *TimDaniels*
> >
> > "Kris" wrote:
> >>I ran XP, I installed Vista to the next partition, I want to eliminate XP,
> >> but the Vista boot MANAGER is on the XP partition. I tried hiding the XP
> >> partition, booting the Vista CD and doing a repair (twice) but when it
> >> boots, it tells me NTLDR is missing.
> >> --
> >> Kris

>
> Well, they all look very interesting and I had high hopes for /fixboot, but
> even after all that, the boot MANAGER is still on D (the XP partition) -
> even when that partition has been deleted. And the last time I booted into
> the Vista CD, it couldn't find Vista at all. If I put XP back in, it boots
> just fine.
>
> I know of no other way than to completely re-install Vista withoug XP
> present on the system - what a pain. Should have done that initially and
> used a 3rd party booter.


My bootmanager HWBOOT can help you too. It sets the bootindicator
at the partition of your choice. Even if you remove the bootmanager,
the choosen partition stays active.

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Old 25-03-2008, 08:13 PM   #8
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Boot.ini on the XP partition "refers" to the boot manager when Vista is
selected via the dual boot menu..
If not familiar with BCDedit consider a third party boot utility such a
VistaBootPro to provide for booting ditectly into Vista,


"Jawade" <Henk_Jawade@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <14v431r4i3ctq.dlg@myhost7.org>, Kris <a@b.net> says...
>> On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 07:15:11 +0100, Jawade wrote:
>>
>> > In article <17322sp97e1bo.dlg@myhost7.org>, Kris <a@b.net> says...
>> >> I ran XP, I installed Vista to the next partition, I want to eliminate
>> >> XP,
>> >> but the Vista boot MANAGER is on the XP partition. I tried hiding the
>> >> XP
>> >> partition, booting the Vista CD and doing a repair (twice) but when it
>> >> boots, it tells me NTLDR is missing.
>> >
>> > Put the bootfiles from Vista at the Vista-partition and set the
>> > bootindicator in the MBR at the Vista-partition.

>>
>> how?

>
> With a diskeditor you can set the bootindicator at the Vista-partition.
> The location for the first partition is 0x01BE and for the second
> 0x01CE, active is the value 0x80.
>
> --
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Old 25-03-2008, 08:19 PM   #9
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:21:24 +0100, Jawade wrote:

> In article <1kjmqjlplzsz3$.dlg@myhost7.org>, Kris <a@b.net> says...
>> On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:39:43 -0700, Timothy Daniels wrote:
>>
>>> These websites should cover it:
>>> http://pcproblems.wordpress.com/200...-vista-machine/
>>>
>>> http://apcmag.com/5023/dual_booting_xp_with_vista
>>> (last 2 paragraphs)
>>>
>>> http://www.syschat.com/remove-xp-xp...-boot-1927.html
>>>
>>> *TimDaniels*
>>>
>>> "Kris" wrote:
>>>>I ran XP, I installed Vista to the next partition, I want to eliminate XP,
>>>> but the Vista boot MANAGER is on the XP partition. I tried hiding the XP
>>>> partition, booting the Vista CD and doing a repair (twice) but when it
>>>> boots, it tells me NTLDR is missing.
>>>> --
>>>> Kris

>>
>> Well, they all look very interesting and I had high hopes for /fixboot, but
>> even after all that, the boot MANAGER is still on D (the XP partition) -
>> even when that partition has been deleted. And the last time I booted into
>> the Vista CD, it couldn't find Vista at all. If I put XP back in, it boots
>> just fine.
>>
>> I know of no other way than to completely re-install Vista withoug XP
>> present on the system - what a pain. Should have done that initially and
>> used a 3rd party booter.

>
> My bootmanager HWBOOT can help you too. It sets the bootindicator
> at the partition of your choice. Even if you remove the bootmanager,
> the choosen partition stays active.


Thanks for your help, but it's not the boot indicator that is causing me
problems. The Vista BCD points to the XP partition for Windows boot
manager and windows memory testor, and I know of no way to change those
silly settings inside the BCD. I have 2 BCD editors and they only allow me
to change the location of the boot loader. So no matter what I do, when I
take the XP partition away, Vista can't boot.
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Old 25-03-2008, 10:03 PM   #10
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In article <1n2rejoyx13u$.dlg@myhost7.org>, Kris <a@b.net> says...
> On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:21:24 +0100, Jawade wrote:
>
> > In article <1kjmqjlplzsz3$.dlg@myhost7.org>, Kris <a@b.net> says...
> >> On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:39:43 -0700, Timothy Daniels wrote:
> >>
> >>> These websites should cover it:
> >>> http://pcproblems.wordpress.com/200...-vista-machine/
> >>>
> >>> http://apcmag.com/5023/dual_booting_xp_with_vista
> >>> (last 2 paragraphs)
> >>>
> >>> http://www.syschat.com/remove-xp-xp...-boot-1927.html
> >>>
> >>> *TimDaniels*
> >>>
> >>> "Kris" wrote:
> >>>>I ran XP, I installed Vista to the next partition, I want to eliminate XP,
> >>>> but the Vista boot MANAGER is on the XP partition. I tried hiding the XP
> >>>> partition, booting the Vista CD and doing a repair (twice) but when it
> >>>> boots, it tells me NTLDR is missing.
> >>>> --
> >>>> Kris
> >>
> >> Well, they all look very interesting and I had high hopes for /fixboot, but
> >> even after all that, the boot MANAGER is still on D (the XP partition) -
> >> even when that partition has been deleted. And the last time I booted into
> >> the Vista CD, it couldn't find Vista at all. If I put XP back in, it boots
> >> just fine.
> >>
> >> I know of no other way than to completely re-install Vista withoug XP
> >> present on the system - what a pain. Should have done that initially and
> >> used a 3rd party booter.

> >
> > My bootmanager HWBOOT can help you too. It sets the bootindicator
> > at the partition of your choice. Even if you remove the bootmanager,
> > the choosen partition stays active.

>
> Thanks for your help, but it's not the boot indicator that is causing me
> problems. The Vista BCD points to the XP partition for Windows boot
> manager and windows memory testor, and I know of no way to change those
> silly settings inside the BCD. I have 2 BCD editors and they only allow me
> to change the location of the boot loader. So no matter what I do, when I
> take the XP partition away, Vista can't boot.


The reason is really that the bootindicator points to your old XP
partition. Believe it or not, if you change the bootindicator,
your ptoblem is over. The bootindicator sends 'him' to the
partition where he starts from.

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