ShellNoRoam

In the Wxp registry, there are several sub-folders such as Bags under the
ShellNoRoam folder. In the Vista registry there are no sub-folders under the
ShellNoRoam folder. Should there be sub-folders under the ShellNoRoam folder
in the Vista registry? If there should be, which sub-folders are missing?

It's fine. Bags have moved to:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local
Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags]



--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



"b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3CD86E59-FA9D-45B6-8B02-134DD52801D6@microsoft.com...
> In the Wxp registry, there are several sub-folders such as Bags under the
> ShellNoRoam folder. In the Vista registry there are no sub-folders under
> the
> ShellNoRoam folder. Should there be sub-folders under the ShellNoRoam
> folder
> in the Vista registry? If there should be, which sub-folders are missing?
>

The ShellNoRoam BagMru Size is 5000 but in the bags folder the bag number
will not increase over 400. I am never on a network. Why won't the number go
over 400?
___________________________________________________________________

"Keith Miller (MVP)" wrote:

> It's fine. Bags have moved to:
>
> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local
> Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags]
>
>
>
> --
> Good Luck,
>
> Keith
> Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]
>
>
>
> "b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3CD86E59-FA9D-45B6-8B02-134DD52801D6@microsoft.com...
> > In the Wxp registry, there are several sub-folders such as Bags under the
> > ShellNoRoam folder. In the Vista registry there are no sub-folders under
> > the
> > ShellNoRoam folder. Should there be sub-folders under the ShellNoRoam
> > folder
> > in the Vista registry? If there should be, which sub-folders are missing?
> >
>
>

You need to create 'BagMRU Size' under this key:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local
Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell]

The one found under:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell]

is only read when saving views for networked folders.

--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



"b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:296934D0-866C-4D9D-BC11-99CBC5450465@microsoft.com...
> The ShellNoRoam BagMru Size is 5000 but in the bags folder the bag number
> will not increase over 400. I am never on a network. Why won't the number
> go
> over 400?
> ___________________________________________________________________
>
> "Keith Miller (MVP)" wrote:
>
>> It's fine. Bags have moved to:
>>
>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local
>> Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags]
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Good Luck,
>>
>> Keith
>> Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]
>>
>>
>>
>> "b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:3CD86E59-FA9D-45B6-8B02-134DD52801D6@microsoft.com...
>> > In the Wxp registry, there are several sub-folders such as Bags under
>> > the
>> > ShellNoRoam folder. In the Vista registry there are no sub-folders
>> > under
>> > the
>> > ShellNoRoam folder. Should there be sub-folders under the ShellNoRoam
>> > folder
>> > in the Vista registry? If there should be, which sub-folders are
>> > missing?
>> >
>>
>>

Should there be a space between "U and Size"? Or does it matter.
I assume that MODIFY|VALUE|5000 (or another # of choice) is correct?

/ Keith Miller (MVP)/ said:
> You need to create 'BagMRU Size' under this key:
>
> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local
> Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell]
>
> The one found under:
>
> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell]
>
> is only read when saving views for networked folders.
>

Yes, I have a space there. It should be a REG_DWORD. Some people have
talked about upping the value to 20000. I don't know if Explorer imposes an
upper limit or not.

--
Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



<dev@null.invalid> wrote in message
news:eGcj40ViIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Should there be a space between "U and Size"? Or does it matter.
> I assume that MODIFY|VALUE|5000 (or another # of choice) is correct?
>
> / Keith Miller (MVP)/ said:
>> You need to create 'BagMRU Size' under this key:
>>
>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local
>> Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell]
>>
>> The one found under:
>>
>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell]
>>
>> is only read when saving views for networked folders.
>>

Read:
http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet...08234&SiteID=17

Other people have the same problem as I have.

I already have the BAGS folder you recommend but note that that BAGS folder
is under the SHELL (network) folder. I am never on a network.

It is my undersetanding that SHELL is for the Network and ShellNoRoam is not.
___________________________________________________________________

"Keith Miller (MVP)" wrote:

> You need to create 'BagMRU Size' under this key:
>
> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local
> Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell]
>
> The one found under:
>
> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell]
>
> is only read when saving views for networked folders.
>
> --
> Good Luck,
>
> Keith
> Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]
>
>
>
> "b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:296934D0-866C-4D9D-BC11-99CBC5450465@microsoft.com...
> > The ShellNoRoam BagMru Size is 5000 but in the bags folder the bag number
> > will not increase over 400. I am never on a network. Why won't the number
> > go
> > over 400?
> > ___________________________________________________________________
> >
> > "Keith Miller (MVP)" wrote:
> >
> >> It's fine. Bags have moved to:
> >>
> >> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local
> >> Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Good Luck,
> >>
> >> Keith
> >> Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:3CD86E59-FA9D-45B6-8B02-134DD52801D6@microsoft.com...
> >> > In the Wxp registry, there are several sub-folders such as Bags under
> >> > the
> >> > ShellNoRoam folder. In the Vista registry there are no sub-folders
> >> > under
> >> > the
> >> > ShellNoRoam folder. Should there be sub-folders under the ShellNoRoam
> >> > folder
> >> > in the Vista registry? If there should be, which sub-folders are
> >> > missing?
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
>

I don't 'recommend' the Shell key, it's simply there in the registry.
I shouldn't have mentioned it. As you know, it's only concerned with
network folder views, which
don't affect your situation.

Here is what's important to your situation. The information that XP stored
under:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam]

is stored by Vista under:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local
Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell]

the subkeys 'BagMRU', 'Bags', and 'MuiCache' all reside there now. More
importantly, Process Monitor
(http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/...s/bb896645.aspx) shows that
this is where Explorer LOOKS for the 'BagMRU Size' value, though it is not
there by default. As was the case under XP, this is an 'optional' value
that Explorer never attempts to create or write to, but it does attempt to
read it. If it exists, it overrides the hard-coded value of 400, same as
under XP.

Under Vista, Explorer never appears to look for ANYTHING under ShellNoRoam.
I think it's just a vestige of the transition from XP.

If you want to test this, export the Bags and BagMRU subkeys of

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local
Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell]

and then delete them. Create the 'BagMRU Size' under the above key and give
it an extremely low value, like 3 or 5.

Kill & restart the shell or logoff & back on.

Start opening and closing various folders, more than the value you set, and
then check the registry & you will see that the creation of Bags has been
limited to the number you set. Restore your previous view settings by
merging the keys you exported earlier. Up the 'BagMRU Size' value to 5000
or whatever you desire, and you'll bags 401, 402, etc. start to appear.


Good Luck,

Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]



"b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7B196ACA-FBC4-4C92-8CCF-219D3D00C35F@microsoft.com...
> Read:
> http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet...08234&SiteID=17
>
> Other people have the same problem as I have.
>
> I already have the BAGS folder you recommend but note that that BAGS
> folder
> is under the SHELL (network) folder. I am never on a network.
>
> It is my understanding that SHELL is for the Network and ShellNoRoam is
> not.
> ___________________________________________________________________
>
> "Keith Miller (MVP)" wrote:
>
>> You need to create 'BagMRU Size' under this key:
>>
>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local
>> Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell]
>>
>> The one found under:
>>
>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell]
>>
>> is only read when saving views for networked folders.
>>
>> --
>> Good Luck,
>>
>> Keith
>> Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]
>>
>>
>>
>> "b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:296934D0-866C-4D9D-BC11-99CBC5450465@microsoft.com...
>> > The ShellNoRoam BagMru Size is 5000 but in the bags folder the bag
>> > number
>> > will not increase over 400. I am never on a network. Why won't the
>> > number
>> > go
>> > over 400?
>> > ___________________________________________________________________
>> >
>> > "Keith Miller (MVP)" wrote:
>> >
>> >> It's fine. Bags have moved to:
>> >>
>> >> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local
>> >> Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Good Luck,
>> >>
>> >> Keith
>> >> Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:3CD86E59-FA9D-45B6-8B02-134DD52801D6@microsoft.com...
>> >> > In the Wxp registry, there are several sub-folders such as Bags
>> >> > under
>> >> > the
>> >> > ShellNoRoam folder. In the Vista registry there are no sub-folders
>> >> > under
>> >> > the
>> >> > ShellNoRoam folder. Should there be sub-folders under the
>> >> > ShellNoRoam
>> >> > folder
>> >> > in the Vista registry? If there should be, which sub-folders are
>> >> > missing?
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

You are correct. A gold colored star for you.
_________________________________________

"Keith Miller (MVP)" wrote:

> I don't 'recommend' the Shell key, it's simply there in the registry.
> I shouldn't have mentioned it. As you know, it's only concerned with
> network folder views, which
> don't affect your situation.
>
> Here is what's important to your situation. The information that XP stored
> under:
>
> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam]
>
> is stored by Vista under:
>
> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local
> Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell]
>
> the subkeys 'BagMRU', 'Bags', and 'MuiCache' all reside there now. More
> importantly, Process Monitor
> (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/...s/bb896645.aspx) shows that
> this is where Explorer LOOKS for the 'BagMRU Size' value, though it is not
> there by default. As was the case under XP, this is an 'optional' value
> that Explorer never attempts to create or write to, but it does attempt to
> read it. If it exists, it overrides the hard-coded value of 400, same as
> under XP.
>
> Under Vista, Explorer never appears to look for ANYTHING under ShellNoRoam.
> I think it's just a vestige of the transition from XP.
>
> If you want to test this, export the Bags and BagMRU subkeys of
>
> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local
> Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell]
>
> and then delete them. Create the 'BagMRU Size' under the above key and give
> it an extremely low value, like 3 or 5.
>
> Kill & restart the shell or logoff & back on.
>
> Start opening and closing various folders, more than the value you set, and
> then check the registry & you will see that the creation of Bags has been
> limited to the number you set. Restore your previous view settings by
> merging the keys you exported earlier. Up the 'BagMRU Size' value to 5000
> or whatever you desire, and you'll bags 401, 402, etc. start to appear.
>
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Keith
> Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]
>
>
>
> "b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7B196ACA-FBC4-4C92-8CCF-219D3D00C35F@microsoft.com...
> > Read:
> > http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet...08234&SiteID=17
> >
> > Other people have the same problem as I have.
> >
> > I already have the BAGS folder you recommend but note that that BAGS
> > folder
> > is under the SHELL (network) folder. I am never on a network.
> >
> > It is my understanding that SHELL is for the Network and ShellNoRoam is
> > not.
> > ___________________________________________________________________
> >
> > "Keith Miller (MVP)" wrote:
> >
> >> You need to create 'BagMRU Size' under this key:
> >>
> >> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local
> >> Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell]
> >>
> >> The one found under:
> >>
> >> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell]
> >>
> >> is only read when saving views for networked folders.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Good Luck,
> >>
> >> Keith
> >> Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:296934D0-866C-4D9D-BC11-99CBC5450465@microsoft.com...
> >> > The ShellNoRoam BagMru Size is 5000 but in the bags folder the bag
> >> > number
> >> > will not increase over 400. I am never on a network. Why won't the
> >> > number
> >> > go
> >> > over 400?
> >> > ___________________________________________________________________
> >> >
> >> > "Keith Miller (MVP)" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> It's fine. Bags have moved to:
> >> >>
> >> >> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local
> >> >> Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags]
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Good Luck,
> >> >>
> >> >> Keith
> >> >> Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:3CD86E59-FA9D-45B6-8B02-134DD52801D6@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > In the Wxp registry, there are several sub-folders such as Bags
> >> >> > under
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > ShellNoRoam folder. In the Vista registry there are no sub-folders
> >> >> > under
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > ShellNoRoam folder. Should there be sub-folders under the
> >> >> > ShellNoRoam
> >> >> > folder
> >> >> > in the Vista registry? If there should be, which sub-folders are
> >> >> > missing?
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>