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Old 06-03-2008, 10:42 AM   #1
Mark S-123
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Default System restore points gone


I purchaesd a new computer about 2 months ago, love it. When I add new
software I always create a restore point before I install. I also do a
nightly back up, using OneCare.

Here is the problem, 2 days ago I had a problem with the CD burner while
burning using Windows Media Player. After the crash Vista would not see CD's.
It sees the drive, DVD's are fine just CD's. It just spins the disk for about
15-20 minutes, then says wrong disk.

I decided to do a restore, when I went into system restore there were only 4
restore points going back about 5 days! All my other restore points I created
are gone. There were at least 10.

What happened, is there a way to get them back? Am I doing something wrong?

Mark
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:28 AM   #2
Mike Hall - MVP
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"Mark S-123" <MarkS123@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:899CF198-84AF-4C94-8486-91653F3D6268@microsoft.com...
>I purchaesd a new computer about 2 months ago, love it. When I add new
> software I always create a restore point before I install. I also do a
> nightly back up, using OneCare.
>
> Here is the problem, 2 days ago I had a problem with the CD burner while
> burning using Windows Media Player. After the crash Vista would not see
> CD's.
> It sees the drive, DVD's are fine just CD's. It just spins the disk for
> about
> 15-20 minutes, then says wrong disk.
>
> I decided to do a restore, when I went into system restore there were only
> 4
> restore points going back about 5 days! All my other restore points I
> created
> are gone. There were at least 10.
>
> What happened, is there a way to get them back? Am I doing something
> wrong?
>
> Mark



As each new restore point is created, the oldest is dumped according to how
much space is allocated for restore points. You can't retrieve the deleted
points..

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Old 06-03-2008, 12:05 PM   #3
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As Mike said, "As each new restore point is created, the oldest is dumped
according to how much space is allocated for restore points"

To display the current space allocated for restore points type (or copy and
paste) “vssadmin list shadowstorage” (without the quotes but the spaces) and
press Enter.


To reduce (or increase) the disk space allocated, type (or copy and paste)

“vssadmin resize shadowstorage /on=c: /for=c: /maxsize=10GB” (without the
quotes
but the spaces) and press Enter. This example assumes changing the space on
drive C to 10GB. Be sure to create a manual restore point immediately after
resizing because all of your previous restore points will be removed.



> "Mark S-123" <MarkS123@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:899CF198-84AF-4C94-8486-91653F3D6268@microsoft.com...
>>I purchaesd a new computer about 2 months ago, love it. When I add new
>> software I always create a restore point before I install. I also do a
>> nightly back up, using OneCare.
>>
>> Here is the problem, 2 days ago I had a problem with the CD burner while
>> burning using Windows Media Player. After the crash Vista would not see
>> CD's.
>> It sees the drive, DVD's are fine just CD's. It just spins the disk for
>> about
>> 15-20 minutes, then says wrong disk.
>>
>> I decided to do a restore, when I went into system restore there were
>> only 4
>> restore points going back about 5 days! All my other restore points I
>> created
>> are gone. There were at least 10.
>>
>> What happened, is there a way to get them back? Am I doing something
>> wrong?
>>
>> Mark

>
>
> As each new restore point is created, the oldest is dumped according to
> how much space is allocated for restore points. You can't retrieve the
> deleted points..
>
> --
> Mike Hall - MVP
> How to construct a good post..
> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
> http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...whelp&style=toc
> Mike's Window - My Blog..
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>
>
>
>


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Old 06-03-2008, 12:09 PM   #4
Bob
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Default Re: System restore points gone

You need to open a command prompt first.

"Bob" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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> As Mike said, "As each new restore point is created, the oldest is dumped
> according to how much space is allocated for restore points"
>
> To display the current space allocated for restore points type (or copy
> and paste) “vssadmin list shadowstorage” (without the quotes but the
> spaces) and press Enter.
>
>
> To reduce (or increase) the disk space allocated, type (or copy and paste)
>
> “vssadmin resize shadowstorage /on=c: /for=c: /maxsize=10GB” (without the
> quotes
> but the spaces) and press Enter. This example assumes changing the space
> on drive C to 10GB. Be sure to create a manual restore point immediately
> after resizing because all of your previous restore points will be
> removed.
>
>
>
>> "Mark S-123" <MarkS123@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:899CF198-84AF-4C94-8486-91653F3D6268@microsoft.com...
>>>I purchaesd a new computer about 2 months ago, love it. When I add new
>>> software I always create a restore point before I install. I also do a
>>> nightly back up, using OneCare.
>>>
>>> Here is the problem, 2 days ago I had a problem with the CD burner while
>>> burning using Windows Media Player. After the crash Vista would not see
>>> CD's.
>>> It sees the drive, DVD's are fine just CD's. It just spins the disk for
>>> about
>>> 15-20 minutes, then says wrong disk.
>>>
>>> I decided to do a restore, when I went into system restore there were
>>> only 4
>>> restore points going back about 5 days! All my other restore points I
>>> created
>>> are gone. There were at least 10.
>>>
>>> What happened, is there a way to get them back? Am I doing something
>>> wrong?
>>>
>>> Mark

>>
>>
>> As each new restore point is created, the oldest is dumped according to
>> how much space is allocated for restore points. You can't retrieve the
>> deleted points..
>>
>> --
>> Mike Hall - MVP
>> How to construct a good post..
>> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
>> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
>> http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...whelp&style=toc
>> Mike's Window - My Blog..
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>>
>>
>>
>>

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Old 06-03-2008, 01:02 PM   #5
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When you are looking at your list of restore points, did you check the box
that says "Show restore points older than 5 days"?


"Mark S-123" <MarkS123@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:899CF198-84AF-4C94-8486-91653F3D6268@microsoft.com...
>I purchaesd a new computer about 2 months ago, love it. When I add new
> software I always create a restore point before I install. I also do a
> nightly back up, using OneCare.
>
> Here is the problem, 2 days ago I had a problem with the CD burner while
> burning using Windows Media Player. After the crash Vista would not see
> CD's.
> It sees the drive, DVD's are fine just CD's. It just spins the disk for
> about
> 15-20 minutes, then says wrong disk.
>
> I decided to do a restore, when I went into system restore there were only
> 4
> restore points going back about 5 days! All my other restore points I
> created
> are gone. There were at least 10.
>
> What happened, is there a way to get them back? Am I doing something
> wrong?
>
> Mark


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Old 06-03-2008, 01:55 PM   #6
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Open an Admin command prompt.
To display the current space allocated (or copy and paste)

“vssadmin list shadowstorage” (without the quotes) Press Enter.

To reduce (or increase) the disk space allocated, type (or copy and paste)
“vssadmin resize shadowstorage /on=c: /for=c: /maxsize=10GB.” (without the
quotes)

Press Enter. Example assumes changing the space on drive C to 10GB. Create a
restore point immediately after resizing.

"Ken Triebold" <xpres@gnu.com> wrote in message
news:%23CmVyK5fIHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> When you are looking at your list of restore points, did you check the box
> that says "Show restore points older than 5 days"?
>
>
> "Mark S-123" <MarkS123@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:899CF198-84AF-4C94-8486-91653F3D6268@microsoft.com...
>>I purchaesd a new computer about 2 months ago, love it. When I add new
>> software I always create a restore point before I install. I also do a
>> nightly back up, using OneCare.
>>
>> Here is the problem, 2 days ago I had a problem with the CD burner while
>> burning using Windows Media Player. After the crash Vista would not see
>> CD's.
>> It sees the drive, DVD's are fine just CD's. It just spins the disk for
>> about
>> 15-20 minutes, then says wrong disk.
>>
>> I decided to do a restore, when I went into system restore there were
>> only 4
>> restore points going back about 5 days! All my other restore points I
>> created
>> are gone. There were at least 10.
>>
>> What happened, is there a way to get them back? Am I doing something
>> wrong?
>>
>> Mark

>


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Old 06-03-2008, 10:34 PM   #7
RalfG
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That option disappears if there are no restore points that old left on the
system.

I've noticed the same thing happening, with System Restore deleting many or
all restore points every so often. No real idea what triggers it. Can
individual System Restore points take up varying amounts of space? Mine
seems to be set to use 5.6GB or so total and with 5 restore points has
consumed almost all of that.

I used System Restore yesterday and was surprised to see it had been
reduced to only 4 restore points. On the weekend there had been about a
dozen, stretching beyond 5 days. The most recent one yesterday had been
created that morning for an automatic Windows Defender update, the others
were scheduled restore points for the previous days. Every point prior to
Monday had been deleted. Since then, apart from an undo restore point
created yesterday and one created when I re-installed the Windows update,
SR has created one new scheduled restore point this morning and dropped the
oldest restore point which was from Monday.

"Ken Triebold" <xpres@gnu.com> wrote in message
news:%23CmVyK5fIHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> When you are looking at your list of restore points, did you check the box
> that says "Show restore points older than 5 days"?
>
>
> "Mark S-123" <MarkS123@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:899CF198-84AF-4C94-8486-91653F3D6268@microsoft.com...
>>I purchaesd a new computer about 2 months ago, love it. When I add new
>> software I always create a restore point before I install. I also do a
>> nightly back up, using OneCare.
>>
>> Here is the problem, 2 days ago I had a problem with the CD burner while
>> burning using Windows Media Player. After the crash Vista would not see
>> CD's.
>> It sees the drive, DVD's are fine just CD's. It just spins the disk for
>> about
>> 15-20 minutes, then says wrong disk.
>>
>> I decided to do a restore, when I went into system restore there were
>> only 4
>> restore points going back about 5 days! All my other restore points I
>> created
>> are gone. There were at least 10.
>>
>> What happened, is there a way to get them back? Am I doing something
>> wrong?
>>
>> Mark

>


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Old 07-03-2008, 11:00 AM   #8
Mark S-123
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Default RE: System restore points gone

Thank you all, for the help and quick response.

Here is what it is set at:

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\system32>vssadmin list shadowstorage
vssadmin 1.1 - Volume Shadow Copy Service administrative command-line tool
(C) Copyright 2001-2005 Microsoft Corp.
Shadow Copy Storage association
For volume: (C\\?\Volume{37163d97-a7e2-11dc-a38a-806e6f6e6963}\
Shadow Copy Storage volume:
(C\\?\Volume{37163d97-a7e2-11dc-a38a-806e6f6e69
63}\
Used Shadow Copy Storage space: 15.845 GB
Allocated Shadow Copy Storage space: 17.561 GB
Maximum Shadow Copy Storage space: 43.274 GB
C:\Windows\system32>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My C: drive is 300gb and I store most all data on other drives so I bumped
up the size:

C:\Windows\system32>vssadmin resize shadowstorage /on=c: /for=c: /maxsize=65GB
vssadmin 1.1 - Volume Shadow Copy Service administrative command-line tool
(C) Copyright 2001-2005 Microsoft Corp.

Successfully resized the shadow copy storage association





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Old 07-03-2008, 10:10 PM   #9
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I think 65GB is overkill. Half of that would be more than enough.

"Mark S-123" <MarkS123@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Thank you all, for the help and quick response.
>
> Here is what it is set at:
>
> Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
> Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
>
> C:\Windows\system32>vssadmin list shadowstorage
> vssadmin 1.1 - Volume Shadow Copy Service administrative command-line tool
> (C) Copyright 2001-2005 Microsoft Corp.
> Shadow Copy Storage association
> For volume: (C\\?\Volume{37163d97-a7e2-11dc-a38a-806e6f6e6963}\
> Shadow Copy Storage volume:
> (C\\?\Volume{37163d97-a7e2-11dc-a38a-806e6f6e69
> 63}\
> Used Shadow Copy Storage space: 15.845 GB
> Allocated Shadow Copy Storage space: 17.561 GB
> Maximum Shadow Copy Storage space: 43.274 GB
> C:\Windows\system32>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> My C: drive is 300gb and I store most all data on other drives so I bumped
> up the size:
>
> C:\Windows\system32>vssadmin resize shadowstorage /on=c: /for=c:
> /maxsize=65GB
> vssadmin 1.1 - Volume Shadow Copy Service administrative command-line tool
> (C) Copyright 2001-2005 Microsoft Corp.
>
> Successfully resized the shadow copy storage association
>
>
>
>
>


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