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Old 05-03-2008, 10:45 PM   #1
Terry
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Sorry about cross-post (comp.ibm.pc.hardware), very quiet.

Win xp

I have a spare 20gig IDE laptop HD from a working XP laptop.

I wish to prepare it for use in a USB enclosure, then simply use for
storing/transfering data via USB 2.0.

When I place this drive in my 2.5 inch enclosure it is not recognised when
plugged into my XP desktop?

I have a similar drive (ex ebay), which works fine in the same
enclosure...with no OS installed.

TIA
Terry


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Old 05-03-2008, 10:51 PM   #2
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"Terry" <terrybetts11138@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sorry about cross-post (comp.ibm.pc.hardware), very quiet.
>
> Win xp
>
> I have a spare 20gig IDE laptop HD from a working XP laptop.
>
> I wish to prepare it for use in a USB enclosure, then simply use for
> storing/transfering data via USB 2.0.
>
> When I place this drive in my 2.5 inch enclosure it is not recognised when
> plugged into my XP desktop?
>
> I have a similar drive (ex ebay), which works fine in the same
> enclosure...with no OS installed.
>
> TIA
> Terry


Just a thought, but can the enclosure handle the drive's
file format? Some of them seem to only work with FAT
32 formatted drives.

Luck;
Ken



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Old 05-03-2008, 11:11 PM   #3
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Thanks Ken

I am unsure how the HD that works ok in the enclosure is formatted, as it
was like that from ebay.
I just got the enclosure & usb cable, put that 2.5" drive into it, plugged
into desktop pc and works as another drive with no OS showing
anywhere!.......... I use it just for storing files from my PC's.
I suspect the "other" spare drive may have to be formatted etc.(having XP on
it from my laptop).

Terry

"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> "Terry" <terrybetts11138@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:AcSdnRppG_LxiVLanZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com...
>> Sorry about cross-post (comp.ibm.pc.hardware), very quiet.
>>
>> Win xp
>>
>> I have a spare 20gig IDE laptop HD from a working XP laptop.
>>
>> I wish to prepare it for use in a USB enclosure, then simply use for
>> storing/transfering data via USB 2.0.
>>
>> When I place this drive in my 2.5 inch enclosure it is not recognised
>> when
>> plugged into my XP desktop?
>>
>> I have a similar drive (ex ebay), which works fine in the same
>> enclosure...with no OS installed.
>>
>> TIA
>> Terry

>
> Just a thought, but can the enclosure handle the drive's
> file format? Some of them seem to only work with FAT
> 32 formatted drives.
>
> Luck;
> Ken
>
>
>



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Old 05-03-2008, 11:47 PM   #4
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Terry wrote:
> Sorry about cross-post (comp.ibm.pc.hardware), very quiet.
>
> Win xp
>
> I have a spare 20gig IDE laptop HD from a working XP laptop.
>
> I wish to prepare it for use in a USB enclosure, then simply use for
> storing/transfering data via USB 2.0.
>
> When I place this drive in my 2.5 inch enclosure it is not recognised when
> plugged into my XP desktop?
>
> I have a similar drive (ex ebay), which works fine in the same
> enclosure...with no OS installed.


With the XP drive in the enclosure, and plugged in, what you see in
"Disk Management?"

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Old 05-03-2008, 11:51 PM   #5
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"Terry" <terrybetts11138@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks Ken
>
> I am unsure how the HD that works ok in the enclosure is formatted, as it
> was like that from ebay.
> I just got the enclosure & usb cable, put that 2.5" drive into it, plugged
> into desktop pc and works as another drive with no OS showing
> anywhere!.......... I use it just for storing files from my PC's.


Next time you plug it in; select it in "My Computer" then
right click on it and click on "Properties". It should show
"File system:" with NTFS or FAT32 listed.


> I suspect the "other" spare drive may have to be formatted etc.(having XP
> on it from my laptop).
>
> Terry
>


If you are running a non NTFS operating system on a
system (Win95 98 w/o SP2) then the drive needs to be
formatted as FAT32 to be readable in all your systems.

If all your systems can use NTFS then you should use
that, as it lets you use larger files.

Luck;
Ken


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Old 06-03-2008, 12:14 AM   #6
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"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Terry" <terrybetts11138@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> newsJWdnf6BaKwdh1LanZ2dnUVZ8vqdnZ2d@bt.com...
>> Thanks Ken
>>
>> I am unsure how the HD that works ok in the enclosure is formatted, as
>> it was like that from ebay.
>> I just got the enclosure & usb cable, put that 2.5" drive into it,
>> plugged into desktop pc and works as another drive with no OS showing
>> anywhere!.......... I use it just for storing files from my PC's.

>
> Next time you plug it in; select it in "My Computer" then
> right click on it and click on "Properties". It should show
> "File system:" with NTFS or FAT32 listed.
>
> The "OK" drive shows as FAT32 via System Info route.(not shown on My
> computer route).

The "spare" drive does not show up anywhere, but when in the enclosure the
single light(red) is ON.
If I put this "spare" drive back into laptop it works ok with Win Xpstartup
etc.

>> I suspect the "other" spare drive may have to be formatted etc.(having XP
>> on it from my laptop).
>>
>> Terry
>>

>
> If you are running a non NTFS operating system on a
> system (Win95 98 w/o SP2) then the drive needs to be
> formatted as FAT32 to be readable in all your systems.
>
> If all your systems can use NTFS then you should use
> that, as it lets you use larger files.
>
> Luck;
> Ken
>



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Old 06-03-2008, 02:08 AM   #7
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Terry wrote:
> "Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:5YydnfvRfLVivlLanZ2dnUVZ_v-hnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> "Terry" <terrybetts11138@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> newsJWdnf6BaKwdh1LanZ2dnUVZ8vqdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>> Thanks Ken
>>>
>>> I am unsure how the HD that works ok in the enclosure is formatted, as
>>> it was like that from ebay.
>>> I just got the enclosure & usb cable, put that 2.5" drive into it,
>>> plugged into desktop pc and works as another drive with no OS showing
>>> anywhere!.......... I use it just for storing files from my PC's.

>> Next time you plug it in; select it in "My Computer" then
>> right click on it and click on "Properties". It should show
>> "File system:" with NTFS or FAT32 listed.
>>
>> The "OK" drive shows as FAT32 via System Info route.(not shown on My
>> computer route).

> The "spare" drive does not show up anywhere, but when in the enclosure the
> single light(red) is ON.
> If I put this "spare" drive back into laptop it works ok with Win Xpstartup
> etc.


Check your jumper settings to make sure they match up with what the
enclosure is expecting.
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:16 AM   #8
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Terry wrote:

> The "spare" drive does not show up anywhere, but when in the enclosure the
> single light(red) is ON.
> If I put this "spare" drive back into laptop it works ok with Win Xpstartup
> etc.
>


Does the drive have master/slave/cable_select jumper pins ? There may be
a block of four pins, separate from the 44 pin IDE section. Some USB
adapter chips, like the connected drive to be "master". That may be
mentioned in the assembly instructions that come with the enclosure.

Paul
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:23 AM   #9
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"Grinder" <grinder@no.spam.maam.com> wrote in message
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> Terry wrote:
>> "Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:5YydnfvRfLVivlLanZ2dnUVZ_v-hnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> "Terry" <terrybetts11138@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> newsJWdnf6BaKwdh1LanZ2dnUVZ8vqdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>>> Thanks Ken
>>>>
>>>> I am unsure how the HD that works ok in the enclosure is formatted, as
>>>> it was like that from ebay.
>>>> I just got the enclosure & usb cable, put that 2.5" drive into it,
>>>> plugged into desktop pc and works as another drive with no OS showing
>>>> anywhere!.......... I use it just for storing files from my PC's.
>>> Next time you plug it in; select it in "My Computer" then
>>> right click on it and click on "Properties". It should show
>>> "File system:" with NTFS or FAT32 listed.
>>>
>>> The "OK" drive shows as FAT32 via System Info route.(not shown on My
>>> computer route).

>> The "spare" drive does not show up anywhere, but when in the enclosure
>> the single light(red) is ON.
>> If I put this "spare" drive back into laptop it works ok with Win
>> Xpstartup etc.

>
> Check your jumper settings to make sure they match up with what the
> enclosure is expecting.

How do I check jumper settings & where please...I see no facility for
settings on these drives. They have no pins covered.


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Old 06-03-2008, 09:27 AM   #10
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"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:fqng98$6fu$1@aioe.org...
> Terry wrote:
>
>> The "spare" drive does not show up anywhere, but when in the enclosure
>> the single light(red) is ON.
>> If I put this "spare" drive back into laptop it works ok with Win
>> Xpstartup etc.
>>

>
> Does the drive have master/slave/cable_select jumper pins ? There may be
> a block of four pins, separate from the 44 pin IDE section. Some USB
> adapter chips, like the connected drive to be "master". That may be
> mentioned in the assembly instructions that come with the enclosure.
>
> Paul


There are the 4 seperate pins Paul, but no covers on any.
No instructions with enclose but I will surf to try and find any.
Terry


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