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Old 08-01-2008, 07:50 PM   #1
Bill T.
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I have a Toshiba laptop with Vista Home Premium insalled. I was looking at
my computers performance index after installing more ram and there was a
link for registry cleaner software. I clicked on it (out of curiosity) and i
ran a free scan of my computers registry and it found 971 errors! Holy Cow!!
Anyway my question is would it be a good idea to buy the software to repair
these registry files . I was just wondering if anyone else ever used this
type of software. Thanks Bill

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Old 08-01-2008, 08:08 PM   #2
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Hi Bill,

Don't touch this with a bargepole! This is typical of a lot of software like
this, particularly anti-spyware programs, which purport to find numerous
errors which they would correct if you installed the program. Think about it
- how do they know whether or not you have errors on your system if they
haven't even scanned it? Providing that your system is running normally, any
superfluous registry entries are ignored. Another reason to ignore these
programs is that they themselves inevitably install malware onto your system.
Dwarf

"Bill T." wrote:

> I have a Toshiba laptop with Vista Home Premium insalled. I was looking at
> my computers performance index after installing more ram and there was a
> link for registry cleaner software. I clicked on it (out of curiosity) and i
> ran a free scan of my computers registry and it found 971 errors! Holy Cow!!
> Anyway my question is would it be a good idea to buy the software to repair
> these registry files . I was just wondering if anyone else ever used this
> type of software. Thanks Bill
>
>

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Old 08-01-2008, 08:34 PM   #3
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Thanks "Dwarf" I appreciate the Info! I won't touch it!

"Dwarf" <Dwarf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Bill,
>
> Don't touch this with a bargepole! This is typical of a lot of software
> like
> this, particularly anti-spyware programs, which purport to find numerous
> errors which they would correct if you installed the program. Think about
> it
> - how do they know whether or not you have errors on your system if they
> haven't even scanned it? Providing that your system is running normally,
> any
> superfluous registry entries are ignored. Another reason to ignore these
> programs is that they themselves inevitably install malware onto your
> system.
> Dwarf
>
> "Bill T." wrote:
>
>> I have a Toshiba laptop with Vista Home Premium insalled. I was looking
>> at
>> my computers performance index after installing more ram and there was a
>> link for registry cleaner software. I clicked on it (out of curiosity)
>> and i
>> ran a free scan of my computers registry and it found 971 errors! Holy
>> Cow!!
>> Anyway my question is would it be a good idea to buy the software to
>> repair
>> these registry files . I was just wondering if anyone else ever used this
>> type of software. Thanks Bill
>>
>>


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Old 08-01-2008, 09:42 PM   #4
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You better delete the link and uninstall this piece of criminal garbage if
you have a chance.

"Bill T." <ace66@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks "Dwarf" I appreciate the Info! I won't touch it!
>
> "Dwarf" <Dwarf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:22FF02AE-3FBB-44ED-89F5-0EE7CDB8BED1@microsoft.com...
>> Hi Bill,
>>
>> Don't touch this with a bargepole! This is typical of a lot of software
>> like
>> this, particularly anti-spyware programs, which purport to find numerous
>> errors which they would correct if you installed the program. Think about
>> it
>> - how do they know whether or not you have errors on your system if they
>> haven't even scanned it? Providing that your system is running normally,
>> any
>> superfluous registry entries are ignored. Another reason to ignore these
>> programs is that they themselves inevitably install malware onto your
>> system.
>> Dwarf
>>
>> "Bill T." wrote:
>>
>>> I have a Toshiba laptop with Vista Home Premium insalled. I was looking
>>> at
>>> my computers performance index after installing more ram and there was a
>>> link for registry cleaner software. I clicked on it (out of curiosity)
>>> and i
>>> ran a free scan of my computers registry and it found 971 errors! Holy
>>> Cow!!
>>> Anyway my question is would it be a good idea to buy the software to
>>> repair
>>> these registry files . I was just wondering if anyone else ever used
>>> this
>>> type of software. Thanks Bill
>>>
>>>

>


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Old 08-01-2008, 10:08 PM   #5
Bill T.
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Already did "alexB"
"alexB" <alexb@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> You better delete the link and uninstall this piece of criminal garbage if
> you have a chance.
>
> "Bill T." <ace66@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:%23wrdb5jUIHA.5404@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks "Dwarf" I appreciate the Info! I won't touch it!
>>
>> "Dwarf" <Dwarf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:22FF02AE-3FBB-44ED-89F5-0EE7CDB8BED1@microsoft.com...
>>> Hi Bill,
>>>
>>> Don't touch this with a bargepole! This is typical of a lot of software
>>> like
>>> this, particularly anti-spyware programs, which purport to find numerous
>>> errors which they would correct if you installed the program. Think
>>> about it
>>> - how do they know whether or not you have errors on your system if they
>>> haven't even scanned it? Providing that your system is running normally,
>>> any
>>> superfluous registry entries are ignored. Another reason to ignore these
>>> programs is that they themselves inevitably install malware onto your
>>> system.
>>> Dwarf
>>>
>>> "Bill T." wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a Toshiba laptop with Vista Home Premium insalled. I was looking
>>>> at
>>>> my computers performance index after installing more ram and there was
>>>> a
>>>> link for registry cleaner software. I clicked on it (out of curiosity)
>>>> and i
>>>> ran a free scan of my computers registry and it found 971 errors! Holy
>>>> Cow!!
>>>> Anyway my question is would it be a good idea to buy the software to
>>>> repair
>>>> these registry files . I was just wondering if anyone else ever used
>>>> this
>>>> type of software. Thanks Bill
>>>>
>>>>

>>

>


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Old 09-01-2008, 12:05 AM   #6
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Bill T. wrote:
> I have a Toshiba laptop with Vista Home Premium insalled. I was looking
> at my computers performance index after installing more ram and there
> was a link for registry cleaner software. I clicked on it (out of
> curiosity) and i ran a free scan of my computers registry and it found
> 971 errors! Holy Cow!! Anyway my question is would it be a good idea to
> buy the software to repair these registry files . I was just wondering
> if anyone else ever used this type of software. Thanks Bill




Any so-called registry "cleaner" is nothing more than a worthless snake
oil remedy whose sole purpose is to separate you from some of your money.

Why do you think you'd ever need to clean your registry? What
specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's
bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by
using a registry "cleaner?"

If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would
be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the
specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After
all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally,
the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely
to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make
multiple changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean
your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.

The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning
loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
each and every change.

Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to
maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,
no matter how safe they claim to be.

More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an
automated registry "cleaner," particularly by an untrained,
inexperienced computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's
certainly been no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use
of such products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's
performance or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not
worth the risk.

Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and
every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.
And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any
good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no
real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo
effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the
non-existent benefits.

I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands
of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a
useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make
any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any
registry "cleaners" that are truly safe for the general public to use.
Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe
in the hands of the inexperienced user.



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Old 09-01-2008, 03:41 PM   #7
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Bruce, " I got it" I just asked a simple question. You really did not need
to go into that whole deal about how I am a inexperienced user. I get it, I
understand. My question has been answered! I may not be a computer guru, but
i am not a moron either! Thanks anyway.

"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
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> Bill T. wrote:
>> I have a Toshiba laptop with Vista Home Premium insalled. I was looking
>> at my computers performance index after installing more ram and there was
>> a link for registry cleaner software. I clicked on it (out of curiosity)
>> and i ran a free scan of my computers registry and it found 971 errors!
>> Holy Cow!! Anyway my question is would it be a good idea to buy the
>> software to repair these registry files . I was just wondering if anyone
>> else ever used this type of software. Thanks Bill

>
>
>
> Any so-called registry "cleaner" is nothing more than a worthless snake
> oil remedy whose sole purpose is to separate you from some of your money.
>
> Why do you think you'd ever need to clean your registry? What specific
> *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's bogus listing
> of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by using a registry
> "cleaner?"
>
> If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would be
> far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the specific
> key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After all, why use a
> chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally, the manually
> changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely to have the
> dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make multiple
> changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean your
> registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.
>
> The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of the
> computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
> device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
> registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning loose
> a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully confident that
> he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of each and every
> change.
>
> Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
> automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
> experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
> Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
> of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to
> maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
> experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner, no
> matter how safe they claim to be.
>
> More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an
> automated registry "cleaner," particularly by an untrained, inexperienced
> computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's certainly been no
> empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use of such products to
> "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's performance or stability.
> Given the potential for harm, it's just not worth the risk.
>
> Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and every
> time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there. And, since
> no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any good (think of
> them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no real medicinal
> value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo effect), I always tell
> people that the risks far out-weigh the non-existent benefits.
>
> I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands of
> an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a useful
> time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make any
> changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any
> registry "cleaners" that are truly safe for the general public to use.
> Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe in
> the hands of the inexperienced user.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
> Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
> killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot


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Old 09-01-2008, 08:36 PM   #8
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"alexB" <alexb@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> You better delete the link and uninstall this piece of criminal garbage if
> you have a chance.
>
> "Bill T." <ace66@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:%23wrdb5jUIHA.5404@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks "Dwarf" I appreciate the Info! I won't touch it!


This being if it has not already infested your system. If you let it scan
it's a good possibility that you have malware of system as I type this. Pull
down Spybot Search & Destroy, and Ad-Aware SE, and scan your system. They
will usually catch what the other misses. Both are free, and Spybot even
integrates with Vista's Security Center.

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