Odd size film holders for V700, how?

I have a number of old 116 roll film format negatives I'd like to scan
with my V700 but I can't come up with any really effective way of
holding them stable and flat.

The image size is 4.25" x 2.5" so they don't fit in anything supplied.

I'd really like to scan four at a time if I can but even two at a time
would be something.

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Chris Green

<tinnews@isbd.co.uk> wrote in message
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>I have a number of old 116 roll film format negatives I'd like to scan
> with my V700 but I can't come up with any really effective way of
> holding them stable and flat.
>
> The image size is 4.25" x 2.5" so they don't fit in anything supplied.
>
> I'd really like to scan four at a time if I can but even two at a time
> would be something.
>
> --
> Chris Green

Try a custom film holder.
http://www.betterscanning.com/

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CSM1 <nomail@nomoremail.com> wrote:
> <tinnews@isbd.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:474c865e$0$508$bed64819@news.gradwell.net...
> >I have a number of old 116 roll film format negatives I'd like to scan
> > with my V700 but I can't come up with any really effective way of
> > holding them stable and flat.
> >
> > The image size is 4.25" x 2.5" so they don't fit in anything supplied.
> >
> > I'd really like to scan four at a time if I can but even two at a time
> > would be something.
> >
>
> Try a custom film holder.
> http://www.betterscanning.com/
>
I asked him the question and he didn't *really* have anything very
suitable and for the number of negatives involved it's a rather
expensive option to go for his custom variable height holder.

So I think I'm after some ideas for a DIY film holder, does anyone
have any suggestions?

A simple sheet of paper or thin card with some holes cut in it and
some guides (thicker card?) stuck on it to help place the negatives
sounds possible to me. The only difficulty is how to hold the
negatives flat.

Alternatively a sheet of thick card (thick enough to get the film to
Epson film holder height) with holes in and a matching hinged sheet to
hold the negatives flat.

Better ideas anyone?

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Chris Green

On Nov 27, 4:04 pm, tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote:
> I have a number of old 116 roll film format negatives I'd like to scan
> with my V700 but I can't come up with any really effective way of
> holding them stable and flat.
>
> The image size is 4.25" x 2.5" so they don't fit in anything supplied.
>
> I'd really like to scan four at a time if I can but even two at a time
> would be something.
>
> --
> Chris Green


Put the film on the glass as if you were scanning a very big negative,
there is a setting in the software for this, you may want to make a
black paper mask for the negs. Any truely custom film holder will
caost almost as much as the scanner. An interesting question, does
anyone make a glass large format holder for the scanner, that wouls
work for you but probably not get 4 frames at a time.

Tom

tomm42 <tmonego@wildblue.net> wrote:
> On Nov 27, 4:04 pm, tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote:
> > I have a number of old 116 roll film format negatives I'd like to scan
> > with my V700 but I can't come up with any really effective way of
> > holding them stable and flat.
> >
> > The image size is 4.25" x 2.5" so they don't fit in anything supplied.
> >
> > I'd really like to scan four at a time if I can but even two at a time
> > would be something.
> >
> > --
> > Chris Green
>
>
> Put the film on the glass as if you were scanning a very big negative,
> there is a setting in the software for this, you may want to make a
> black paper mask for the negs. Any truely custom film holder will
> caost almost as much as the scanner. An interesting question, does
> anyone make a glass large format holder for the scanner, that wouls
> work for you but probably not get 4 frames at a time.
>
I may well go this route, if I could consistently place the film in
the same place it would be a big advantage though as I wouldn't have
to preview and marquee it each time.

There's nothing to stop me putting more than one negative on the glass
really, but again some sort of guide to get them in the same place
every time would be a big plus.

I can place them emulsion side down and flip them to reduce Newtons rings.

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Chris Green

On Nov 28, 11:04 am, tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote:
> tomm42 <tmon...@wildblue.net> wrote:
> > On Nov 27, 4:04 pm, tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote:
> > > I have a number of old 116 roll film format negatives I'd like to scan
> > > with my V700 but I can't come up with any really effective way of
> > > holding them stable and flat.
>
> > > The image size is 4.25" x 2.5" so they don't fit in anything supplied.
>
> > > I'd really like to scan four at a time if I can but even two at a time
> > > would be something.
>
> > > --
> > > Chris Green
>
> > Put the film on the glass as if you were scanning a very big negative,
> > there is a setting in the software for this, you may want to make a
> > black paper mask for the negs. Any truely custom film holder will
> > caost almost as much as the scanner. An interesting question, does
> > anyone make a glass large format holder for the scanner, that wouls
> > work for you but probably not get 4 frames at a time.
>
> I may well go this route, if I could consistently place the film in
> the same place it would be a big advantage though as I wouldn't have
> to preview and marquee it each time.
>
> There's nothing to stop me putting more than one negative on the glass
> really, but again some sort of guide to get them in the same place
> every time would be a big plus.
>
> I can place them emulsion side down and flip them to reduce Newtons rings.
>
> --
> Chris Green


I find even with the slide holder the marquee placement is not all
that repeatable, have no problem rearranging when I need to. I go from
slide to large format negs back to slides a lot, once you get used to
setting the marquee you'll find it fairly quick.

Tom