Norton

I am so ticked off I can't believe I am able to type. I spent six hours
yesterday reformatting and updating and registering etc., my Windows XP
home edition after being hit with a virus.... What is the point of having an
anti virus program if you wind up having to set up your PC from scratch
because it is so corrupted? I know that I bear some responsibility but I
keep my pc updated on a daily basis, and I still wind up in trouble. I
admit to being a "newbie" to some extent but what is up with these so called
antivirus programs. I have Norton and have wound up with the same thing
happening in the past with McAfee? TIA for any help on this frustrating
thing in the future.... Just don't open ANY email????

..... Violet

~Vi wrote:
> I am so ticked off I can't believe I am able to type. I spent six
> hours yesterday reformatting and updating and registering etc., my
> Windows XP home edition after being hit with a virus.... What is the
> point of having an anti virus program if you wind up having to set up
> your PC from scratch because it is so corrupted? I know that I bear
> some responsibility but I keep my pc updated on a daily basis, and I
> still wind up in trouble. I admit to being a "newbie" to some extent
> but what is up with these so called antivirus programs. I have
> Norton and have wound up with the same thing happening in the past
> with McAfee? TIA for any help on this frustrating thing in the
> future.... Just don't open ANY email????
> .... Violet

The old saying "Nothing can save you from yourself" still applies. Practice
safe hex for the most part and rely on the security software as a back up.

My personal point of view is that the best choice for AV protection is to
stay away from the over hyped brands, like Norton and McAfee, and go with
Nod32 or Kaspersky for example.

--
Sir_George

On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:10:34 -0500, "~Vi" <vi@comcast.net> wrote:

>I am so ticked off I can't believe I am able to type. I spent six hours
>yesterday reformatting and updating and registering etc., my Windows XP
>home edition after being hit with a virus.... What is the point of having an
>anti virus program if you wind up having to set up your PC from scratch
>because it is so corrupted? I know that I bear some responsibility but I
>keep my pc updated on a daily basis, and I still wind up in trouble. I
>admit to being a "newbie" to some extent but what is up with these so called
>antivirus programs. I have Norton and have wound up with the same thing
>happening in the past with McAfee? TIA for any help on this frustrating
>thing in the future.... Just don't open ANY email????
>
>.... Violet
>

Work out how got the virus and don't do it again. Set your email
application so it only accepts and dispalys plain text.

Steve

--
Neural Planner Software Ltd

http://www.easynn.com
http://www.tropheus.demon.co.uk

"Steve Wolstenholme" <steve@tropheus.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:10:34 -0500, "~Vi" <vi@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>I am so ticked off I can't believe I am able to type. I spent six hours
>>yesterday reformatting and updating and registering etc., my Windows XP
>>home edition after being hit with a virus.... What is the point of having
>>an
>>anti virus program if you wind up having to set up your PC from scratch
>>because it is so corrupted? I know that I bear some responsibility but I
>>keep my pc updated on a daily basis, and I still wind up in trouble. I
>>admit to being a "newbie" to some extent but what is up with these so
>>called
>>antivirus programs. I have Norton and have wound up with the same thing
>>happening in the past with McAfee? TIA for any help on this frustrating
>>thing in the future.... Just don't open ANY email????
>>
>>.... Violet
>>
>
> Work out how got the virus and don't do it again. Set your email
> application so it only accepts and dispalys plain text.
>
> Steve


Well, I don't have any idea how I got the virus to be honest with you...
Something flashed for brief second from Norton and then I was move into
Computer Hell... Also, I didn't realive that it made a difference on
accepting plain text in my emails? How so?
... Vi

~Vi wrote:

> .. Also, I didn't realive that it made a difference on accepting plain
> text in my emails? How so?

Certain insecure email clients will not execute embedded scripts if the
mail is written/read in plain text. Certain insecure email clients will
go to the web to download stuff linked in an HTML email. Etc.

Try: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/

During installation, it will even offer to import all your email
settings - and the mail - from your certain insecure email client.

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

Steve Wolstenholme wrote:
> Outlook express can run scripts and access the web for more junk.
> Plain text can't contain scripts.
>

And just try to find an e-mail or news reader program that is _not_able_
to receive anything but text. You'll have lots of people saying "oh,
this program can be set to receive text".

That's not the idea. Any user setting can be "corrected" with an update
or upgrade. MS is especially bad for screwing with user settings.

On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:59:38 -0500, "~Vi" <vi@comcast.net> wrote:


>>
>> Work out how got the virus and don't do it again. Set your email
>> application so it only accepts and dispalys plain text.
>>
>> Steve
>
>
>Well, I don't have any idea how I got the virus to be honest with you...
>Something flashed for brief second from Norton and then I was move into
>Computer Hell... Also, I didn't realive that it made a difference on
>accepting plain text in my emails? How so?
>.. Vi
>

Outlook express can run scripts and access the web for more junk.
Plain text can't contain scripts.

Steve

--
Neural Planner Software Ltd

http://www.easynn.com
http://www.tropheus.demon.co.uk

~Vi wrote:
> (I'm the one that was stupid, not the emails) that have ten or fifteen
> attachments before I got to the original email and in so doing each one had
> what seemed like fifty names on them.

A friend of mine is still ****ed because I got after him for having me
on a mass mail list for stuff we were both interested in.

That was about 10 years ago. No spam or virus e-mail before he pulled
that, and 5yrs of spam and virus e-mails after.

There's going to be times when attachments are necessary, but the danger
is just to great to go opening random attachments.

"Offbreed" <offbreed_106@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:n5WdnX6QvNytuqLanZ2dnUVZ_g2dnZ2d@scnresearch.com...
> Steve Wolstenholme wrote:
>> Outlook express can run scripts and access the web for more junk.
>> Plain text can't contain scripts.
>>
>
> And just try to find an e-mail or news reader program that is _not_able_
> to receive anything but text. You'll have lots of people saying "oh, this
> program can be set to receive text".
>
> That's not the idea. Any user setting can be "corrected" with an update or
> upgrade. MS is especially bad for screwing with user settings.


Somehow I don't believe that was the problem when I was hit with the virus.
Maybe I was, but I think it was more likely from all those stupid emails
(I'm the one that was stupid, not the emails) that have ten or fifteen
attachments before I got to the original email and in so doing each one had
what seemed like fifty names on them. I sent an email to everyone in my
"directory" informing them that unless they had a message on the face of
their original email to me, I would be deleting it so hopefully, that will
help....

"Offbreed" <offbreed_106@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MY-dnYYRcP5YzKLanZ2dnUVZ_rGrnZ2d@scnresearch.com...
> ~Vi wrote:
>> (I'm the one that was stupid, not the emails) that have ten or fifteen
>> attachments before I got to the original email and in so doing each one
>> had what seemed like fifty names on them.
>
> A friend of mine is still ****ed because I got after him for having me on
> a mass mail list for stuff we were both interested in.
>
> That was about 10 years ago. No spam or virus e-mail before he pulled
> that, and 5yrs of spam and virus e-mails after.
>
> There's going to be times when attachments are necessary, but the danger
> is just to great to go opening random attachments.

Amen <g> I learned my lesson. Hopefully I won't have a problem like that
again for a long while. (but who knows)