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Old 27-08-2007, 11:23 PM   #1
Vic Baron
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If System Restore is turned off, can you manually save a restore point?

Or, is there a way to create a restore point without having Vista do them
automatically?


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Old 27-08-2007, 11:57 PM   #2
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"Vic Baron" <vgbaron@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> If System Restore is turned off, can you manually save a restore point?
>
> Or, is there a way to create a restore point without having Vista do them
> automatically?
>
>
> --
> There are 10 kinds of people - those who understand binary and those who
> don't
>


If System Restore is turned off, it's off, that's it . . . no auto-saves . .
.. no manual saves . . . no restore points . . . even the ones that were
created before you turned it off are now gone.

Mic

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Old 28-08-2007, 12:21 AM   #3
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Hi Vic--

If SR is off you can't do manual saving. Given space, you can always add
manual restore points. Vista is going to add them automatically, but you
can tweak how often in the registry.

You cannot stop SR from automatically making restore points. Here is a
question and answer similar to that from the Beta Vista SR Chat 6/19/06:

http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/pages/447166.aspx

Is it possible to to set a "just installed" restore point.

This is automatically done whenever a program or driver or update is
installed. Certainly you can create one manually if you don't trust those.
These automatically created restorepoints do have automatically created
names. You cannot change those.

--> can i update this with specific or personalized settings.

If you create one manually you can give it a name. Not more, not less.

Good luck,

CH


"Vic Baron" <vgbaron@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> If System Restore is turned off, can you manually save a restore point?
>
> Or, is there a way to create a restore point without having Vista do them
> automatically?
>
>
> --
> There are 10 kinds of people - those who understand binary and those who
> don't
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Old 28-08-2007, 12:23 AM   #4
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But if you turn it on You can make a manual restore point by opening the
application.
peter
"Vic Baron" <vgbaron@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> If System Restore is turned off, can you manually save a restore point?
>
> Or, is there a way to create a restore point without having Vista do them
> automatically?
>
>
> --
> There are 10 kinds of people - those who understand binary and those who
> don't
>



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Old 28-08-2007, 03:42 AM   #5
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Hi Vic,

When System Restore is turned off, all restore points or shadow copies are
deleted, and no new ones will be created. Previous Versions are also deleted.

System Restore in Windows Vista:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/vista.html

In Vista, restore points can be created manually, along with the automatic
restore points. The automatic feature cannot be turned off.

What was the reason for turning System Restore off?

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org


Vic Baron wrote:
> If System Restore is turned off, can you manually save a restore point?
>
> Or, is there a way to create a restore point without having Vista do them
> automatically?

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Old 28-08-2007, 04:19 AM   #6
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Hi,

Number one is false. Settings made to this key in Vista are ignored.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore

These keys are there for backwards compatibility with some XP scripts.

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org

brink wrote:
> Vic Baron;435815 Wrote:
>> If System Restore is turned off, can you manually save a restore point?
>>
>> Or, is there a way to create a restore point without having Vista do
>> them
>> automatically?
>>
>>
>> --
>> There are 10 kinds of people - those who understand binary and those
>> who
>> don't

>
> Hi Vic Baron,
>
> When System Restore is off, the restore points get deleted and you
> cannot manually make one.
>
> You might find these sites helpful:
>
> 1. 'Adjust Frequency of Automatic System Restore Point'
> (http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/8...tore-point.html)
>
> 2. 'How To Do a System Restore'
> (http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/7...estore-how.html)
>
> 3. 'How To Create a System Restore Point'
> (http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/7...int-create.html)
>
> 4. 'How To Undo The Last System Restore'
> (http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/7...store-undo.html)
>
> 5. 'How To Change How Much Space System Restore Can Use'
> (http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/7...disk-space.html)
>
> Hope this helps,
> Shawn
>
>

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Old 28-08-2007, 03:22 PM   #7
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I've the default Frequency of Automatic System Restore Point (1 day) but I
do not see a restore point every day, I have restore points just during the
last upgrades and the manually created. How is that?
Ciao,
Riccardo



"brink" <brink.2w0bh5@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
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>
> Vic Baron;435815 Wrote:
>> If System Restore is turned off, can you manually save a restore point?
>>
>> Or, is there a way to create a restore point without having Vista do
>> them
>> automatically?
>>
>>
>> --
>> There are 10 kinds of people - those who understand binary and those
>> who
>> don't

>
> Hi Vic Baron,
>
> When System Restore is off, the restore points get deleted and you
> cannot manually make one.
>
> You might find these sites helpful:
>
> 1. 'Adjust Frequency of Automatic System Restore Point'
> (http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/8...tore-point.html)
>
> 2. 'How To Do a System Restore'
> (http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/7...estore-how.html)
>
> 3. 'How To Create a System Restore Point'
> (http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/7...int-create.html)
>
> 4. 'How To Undo The Last System Restore'
> (http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/7...store-undo.html)
>
> 5. 'How To Change How Much Space System Restore Can Use'
> (http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/7...disk-space.html)
>
> Hope this helps,
> Shawn
>
>
> --
> brink
>
> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.*
> _http://www.Vistax64.com (\"http://www.Vistax64.com\")_
> *Please post feedback to help others.*


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Old 29-08-2007, 04:16 PM   #8
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brink wrote:
> Bert Kinney;436071 Wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Number one is false. Settings made to this key in Vista are ignored.
>>
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore
>>
>> These keys are there for backwards compatibility with some XP scripts.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
>> 'All About System Restore in WinXP' (http://bertk.mvps.org)
>> Member: 'Welcome to DTS-L.org' (http://dts-l.org)
>>
>>

>
> Hi Bert,
>
> I will defer to you because you are the expert for System Restore. Do
> you have a solution that would work for this in Vista? I see this exact
> same solution all over the net for Vista. Are we all mistaken?
>
> Thank you,
> Shawn


Hi Shawn,

This information was posted by Jill Zoeller [MSFT] in April.
http://snipurl.com/1q2z9

To test the effects of the registry setting, In Vista I set RPGlobalInterval
to 15 minutes, (900) and no new restore points are being created.

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org
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Old 29-08-2007, 04:25 PM   #9
Bert Kinney
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Hi Riccardo,

Here are some possibility's.

Missing Restore Points/Shadow Copies in Windows Vista:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/missingrpv.html

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org

Riccardo wrote:
> I've the default Frequency of Automatic System Restore Point (1 day) but
> I do not see a restore point every day, I have restore points just
> during the last upgrades and the manually created. How is that?
> Ciao,
> Riccardo
>
>
>
> "brink" <brink.2w0bh5@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
> news:brink.2w0bh5@no-mx.forums.net...
>>
>> Vic Baron;435815 Wrote:
>>> If System Restore is turned off, can you manually save a restore point?
>>>
>>> Or, is there a way to create a restore point without having Vista do
>>> them
>>> automatically?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> There are 10 kinds of people - those who understand binary and those
>>> who
>>> don't

>>
>> Hi Vic Baron,
>>
>> When System Restore is off, the restore points get deleted and you
>> cannot manually make one.
>>
>> You might find these sites helpful:
>>
>> 1. 'Adjust Frequency of Automatic System Restore Point'
>> (http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/8...tore-point.html)
>>
>>
>> 2. 'How To Do a System Restore'
>> (http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/7...estore-how.html)
>>
>> 3. 'How To Create a System Restore Point'
>> (http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/7...int-create.html)
>>
>>
>> 4. 'How To Undo The Last System Restore'
>> (http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/7...store-undo.html)
>>
>> 5. 'How To Change How Much Space System Restore Can Use'
>> (http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/7...disk-space.html)
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Shawn
>>
>>
>> --
>> brink
>>
>> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.*
>> _http://www.Vistax64.com (\"http://www.Vistax64.com\")_
>> *Please post feedback to help others.*

>

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Old 29-08-2007, 05:16 PM   #10
Riccardo
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"Bert Kinney" <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote in message
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> Hi Riccardo,
>
> Here are some possibility's.
>
> Missing Restore Points/Shadow Copies in Windows Vista:
> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/missingrpv.html
>
> Regards,
> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://bertk.mvps.org
> Member: http://dts-l.org
>


Thank you BerT for the suggestions!
Ciao,
Riccardo

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