Why should I stay with Vista?

Hi all,

I don't want to sound like I'm trying to get a rise out of anyone here, but
I've been using Vista (pre-installed on my new laptop) for about 2 months now
and I am finding it difficult to justify using Vista instead of going back to
Windows XP. I've been very happy with XP for a long time - it's stable, quick
and gets the job done very well in my mind.

I have greatly expanded my point on my blog (link at the end), but the long
and the short of it is the bad outweighs the good and I can think of more
reasons to go back to XP than stick with Vista. Ultimately it's an overall
sluggishness that is probably the main reason. I have a desktop with XP on
it, with much lower specifications than my laptop and it feels snappier and
more responsive.

So, is there anything people can say to convince me to stay?

Cheers,
Alex

http://www.pixelapes.com/index.php/...her-chance.html

I did the same thing on my development box. I tried Vista, it was very slow
and had some other issues with some software so I wiped Vista off and
reinstalled XP. I still have Vista on a test box so I can play, but for
serious work, I use XP. Maybe Vista will be ready for prime after SP1 is
released.


"Alex Leonard" <AlexLeonard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EFE76116-7BEE-42F4-9F41-9BD06B3C14D0@microsoft.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I don't want to sound like I'm trying to get a rise out of anyone here,
> but
> I've been using Vista (pre-installed on my new laptop) for about 2 months
> now
> and I am finding it difficult to justify using Vista instead of going back
> to
> Windows XP. I've been very happy with XP for a long time - it's stable,
> quick
> and gets the job done very well in my mind.
>
> I have greatly expanded my point on my blog (link at the end), but the
> long
> and the short of it is the bad outweighs the good and I can think of more
> reasons to go back to XP than stick with Vista. Ultimately it's an overall
> sluggishness that is probably the main reason. I have a desktop with XP on
> it, with much lower specifications than my laptop and it feels snappier
> and
> more responsive.
>
> So, is there anything people can say to convince me to stay?
>
> Cheers,
> Alex
>
> http://www.pixelapes.com/index.php/...her-chance.html

With all due respect, why should we? If you think you're better off with
Windows XP, then go back to Windows XP. If you can't convince yourself then
it's not really up to us to try, is it?

--
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"Alex Leonard" <AlexLeonard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EFE76116-7BEE-42F4-9F41-9BD06B3C14D0@microsoft.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I don't want to sound like I'm trying to get a rise out of anyone here,
> but
> I've been using Vista (pre-installed on my new laptop) for about 2 months
> now
> and I am finding it difficult to justify using Vista instead of going back
> to
> Windows XP. I've been very happy with XP for a long time - it's stable,
> quick
> and gets the job done very well in my mind.
>
> I have greatly expanded my point on my blog (link at the end), but the
> long
> and the short of it is the bad outweighs the good and I can think of more
> reasons to go back to XP than stick with Vista. Ultimately it's an overall
> sluggishness that is probably the main reason. I have a desktop with XP on
> it, with much lower specifications than my laptop and it feels snappier
> and
> more responsive.
>
> So, is there anything people can say to convince me to stay?
>
> Cheers,
> Alex
>
> http://www.pixelapes.com/index.php/...her-chance.html

Nobody should have to convince you. Nobody should try....

If you don't like Vista install XP. Vista can be sluggish for those that
prefer eye candy to a work machine. Turn off all the crap, set preferences
for best performance and spend a few bucks on bucket fulls of ram. you can't
feed a race horse on stale bread and expect it to win the Kentucky derby,
yet a Shetland will grow fat on the stuff and still perform well.
It's always been the same with a new OS, pour in the ram and turn off the
crap that is just there for show. XP can be made to run faster than NT5 if
you tune it right but when it first cam out XP was a dog for a while, as
were 95 and 98, as for ME well it was just a dog ;-)

One more thing, what's the deal with coming in and trashing the subject of
the news group, a more profitable experience can be had by stating what is
too slow and asking how to fix it.
Always up the ram as it costs so little and is a 5 minute job or most stores
will install it for free. The store I went into I purchased 1GB for less
than AU$90 and a lappy hdd and case, they fitted the hdd in the case and
formatted it, then would have installed the ram, I didn't need it done but
they were not flat out and were able to do some customer service. The
surprise is that they were the discount store in town. (The disc shop in
Rockhampton, QLD) I visit Oz once a year to buy all the parts I can't get
here, they will be at the top of the shopping list for next year.

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>
>
"Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> wrote in message
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>I did the same thing on my development box. I tried Vista, it was very
>slow and had some other issues with some software so I wiped Vista off and
>reinstalled XP. I still have Vista on a test box so I can play, but for
>serious work, I use XP. Maybe Vista will be ready for prime after SP1 is
>released.
>
>
> "Alex Leonard" <AlexLeonard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:EFE76116-7BEE-42F4-9F41-9BD06B3C14D0@microsoft.com...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I don't want to sound like I'm trying to get a rise out of anyone here,
>> but
>> I've been using Vista (pre-installed on my new laptop) for about 2 months
>> now
>> and I am finding it difficult to justify using Vista instead of going
>> back to
>> Windows XP. I've been very happy with XP for a long time - it's stable,
>> quick
>> and gets the job done very well in my mind.
>>
>> I have greatly expanded my point on my blog (link at the end), but the
>> long
>> and the short of it is the bad outweighs the good and I can think of more
>> reasons to go back to XP than stick with Vista. Ultimately it's an
>> overall
>> sluggishness that is probably the main reason. I have a desktop with XP
>> on
>> it, with much lower specifications than my laptop and it feels snappier
>> and
>> more responsive.
>>
>> So, is there anything people can say to convince me to stay?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alex
>>
>> http://www.pixelapes.com/index.php/...her-chance.html
>
>

Bill KY-Cu*t-Cream wrote:
> I did the same thing on my development box. I tried Vista, it was very slow
> and had some other issues with some software so I wiped Vista off and
> reinstalled XP. I still have Vista on a test box so I can play, but for
> serious work, I use XP. Maybe Vista will be ready for prime after SP1 is
> released.
>

<Translation: He was Howdy Duty at the keyboard and mouse, has no
business doing any thing development wise, as no business messing with
Vista he is not qualified, and really has no class nor business with a
computer, period.>

<The only thing he can develop is his jars of cream.>

"Alex Leonard" <AlexLeonard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EFE76116-7BEE-42F4-9F41-9BD06B3C14D0@microsoft.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I don't want to sound like I'm trying to get a rise out of anyone here,
> but
> I've been using Vista (pre-installed on my new laptop) for about 2 months
> now
> and I am finding it difficult to justify using Vista instead of going back
> to
> Windows XP. I've been very happy with XP for a long time - it's stable,
> quick
> and gets the job done very well in my mind.
>
> I have greatly expanded my point on my blog (link at the end), but the
> long
> and the short of it is the bad outweighs the good and I can think of more
> reasons to go back to XP than stick with Vista. Ultimately it's an overall
> sluggishness that is probably the main reason. I have a desktop with XP on
> it, with much lower specifications than my laptop and it feels snappier
> and
> more responsive.
>
> So, is there anything people can say to convince me to stay?
>
> Cheers,
> Alex
>
> http://www.pixelapes.com/index.php/...her-chance.html
The only non-subjective reason I can think of would be one, there may not be
XP compatible drivers for the hardware on the new system and second, if
there are OEM apps that came with the new system of which you've found
useful, they would be lost to you as would any other app you might have that
requires Vista or some Vista feature.

Beyond that, it's all subjective, personal view, bias and opinion.

It's not a debate, if you're not happy with it, change. But, do realize,
the new software and hardware will more and more be designed for Vista and
less and less for XP as we move forward. That doesn't mean, if you leave
Vista you can't come back but it is something of which to be aware going
forward if you decide to make that change, a decision you seem already to
have made.

--
Michael Solomon
Backup is a PC user's best friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

Hey Brad.

Thanks for the quick response. I have tweaked Vista to try and garner a
better performance from it. I have disabled a lot of the services and stopped
a lot of processes from starting up. Similar to my post install duties in XP.

I feel the new system should really be adequate to perform well on Vista (I
have a Turion X2 TL-60 and 2 Gb DDR2 Ram @667Mhz). I could increase this to
4Gb but that would not be a particularly cheap outlay (in around €250), and
I'd also have 2 x 1Gb sitting around doing nothing.

I didn't mean to come in and trash the group and I'm sorry if it comes
across like this. I was actually hoping to see if there is anything I'm
missing that really gives me incentive to use Vista over XP.

Perhaps as I am new to the system there are things that people on here find
advantageous and productivity-boosting in Vista that I haven't noticed?

In my usage of Vista I signed up to the Customer Improvement Programme and
have been using the help feature to continually submit feedback on various
features. I do think that there is a lot of potential for this OS, but at the
moment I can't see what advantage there is to me using it instead of XP.

I hope that I am explaining myself correctly as I am no fan of people just
trying to rile other people, and would much rather see coeherent arguments
and discussion. So far I have been surprised by some of the responses, which
have equated to, if you don't like it then go.

That's not what I'm saying here. What do you think makes it more productive
and more enticing than XP at this point in time. I can't imagine me not using
it in a year's time, perhaps when I get a quad core desktop, lots of RAM and
64 bit support has improved to allow me to pump my new machine full of RAM
(of which I have every intention).

"Brad" wrote:

> Nobody should have to convince you. Nobody should try....
>
> If you don't like Vista install XP. Vista can be sluggish for those that
> prefer eye candy to a work machine. Turn off all the crap, set preferences
> for best performance and spend a few bucks on bucket fulls of ram. you can't
> feed a race horse on stale bread and expect it to win the Kentucky derby,
> yet a Shetland will grow fat on the stuff and still perform well.
> It's always been the same with a new OS, pour in the ram and turn off the
> crap that is just there for show. XP can be made to run faster than NT5 if
> you tune it right but when it first cam out XP was a dog for a while, as
> were 95 and 98, as for ME well it was just a dog ;-)
>
> One more thing, what's the deal with coming in and trashing the subject of
> the news group, a more profitable experience can be had by stating what is
> too slow and asking how to fix it.
> Always up the ram as it costs so little and is a 5 minute job or most stores
> will install it for free. The store I went into I purchased 1GB for less
> than AU$90 and a lappy hdd and case, they fitted the hdd in the case and
> formatted it, then would have installed the ram, I didn't need it done but
> they were not flat out and were able to do some customer service. The
> surprise is that they were the discount store in town. (The disc shop in
> Rockhampton, QLD) I visit Oz once a year to buy all the parts I can't get
> here, they will be at the top of the shopping list for next year.
>
> --
> Brad Leyden

Why would anyone care what OS you use?? I find XP works fine on our two
desktop PC's (several years old), and I find that Vista, for the most
part, works well on our new laptops. I don't see the point in replacing
XP with Vista, but I've got no problem having migrating to Vista when
purchasing current hardware. My complaints with Vista are just nits.
Little aggravations--nothing major. And i think it looks nicer,
although that's not something that's gonna excite anyone who has issues
with Vista's appetite for speed and memory.

I'll reiterate--I don't really care, and i doubt others care what OS you
run.

Dave

Hi Richard,

You don't have to convince me of anything. If you were interested though,
I'd love to hear what you find useful and helpful regarding productivity and
day-to-day use of Vista.

Perhaps this will demonstrate to me some of the functionality that I haven't
discovered yet. As a Windows user for the past 10 years (ever since I started
tinkering with computers) I had assumed that a Windows discussion group would
be a good place to ask for people's reasons on liking their new OS.

Alex

"Richard G. Harper" wrote:

> With all due respect, why should we? If you think you're better off with
> Windows XP, then go back to Windows XP. If you can't convince yourself then
> it's not really up to us to try, is it?
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
> * NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
> * The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

Sounds like you have made your choice, so go for it.

I am not going to tell anyone why they should use Vista. It's a personal
choice, along with the type of skivvies you wear.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)


"Alex Leonard" <AlexLeonard@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EFE76116-7BEE-42F4-9F41-9BD06B3C14D0@microsoft.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I don't want to sound like I'm trying to get a rise out of anyone here,
> but
> I've been using Vista (pre-installed on my new laptop) for about 2 months
> now
> and I am finding it difficult to justify using Vista instead of going back
> to
> Windows XP. I've been very happy with XP for a long time - it's stable,
> quick
> and gets the job done very well in my mind.
>
> I have greatly expanded my point on my blog (link at the end), but the
> long
> and the short of it is the bad outweighs the good and I can think of more
> reasons to go back to XP than stick with Vista. Ultimately it's an overall
> sluggishness that is probably the main reason. I have a desktop with XP on
> it, with much lower specifications than my laptop and it feels snappier
> and
> more responsive.
>
> So, is there anything people can say to convince me to stay?
>
> Cheers,
> Alex
>
> http://www.pixelapes.com/index.php/...her-chance.html