System Shutdown?

Hello,

Over the past two weeks I have had two complete shut-downs of my computer
when browsing with IE6 using XP Pro with all updates. It is a whole system
off without going through the shut down routine.

The system seems fine when I boot-up again.

I am running real time CA antivirus. And, I frequently run Spybot, Adaware,
and Super Spyware Antispyware Repair.

Does anyone know what might be happening?

Thanks,

Bob

In article <460b21f5$0$14111$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, ergobob@sonic
[REMOVE].net says...
> Hello,
>
> Over the past two weeks I have had two complete shut-downs of my computer
> when browsing with IE6 using XP Pro with all updates. It is a whole system
> off without going through the shut down routine.
>
> The system seems fine when I boot-up again.
>
> I am running real time CA antivirus. And, I frequently run Spybot, Adaware,
> and Super Spyware Antispyware Repair.
>
> Does anyone know what might be happening?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob

I'd used CA AV since it was a freebie years ago; suddenly (in the ver. 8
iteration?) it was bringing my XP Home box down, when I'd fire up a
couple of different programs. My puter was fairly new, and I really
thought I had a hardware failure, since it's pretty hard to zap the
whole OS. But it was the CA AV.
It would also terminate Pegasus mail if I had it activated for the
emailer.

I'd look there first. Really.

MM

"MoiMoi" <moimoi@example.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.2074ee8f842e7b5a98972f@news.individual.net...
> In article <460b21f5$0$14111$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, ergobob@sonic
> [REMOVE].net says...
>> Hello,
>>
>> Over the past two weeks I have had two complete shut-downs of my computer
>> when browsing with IE6 using XP Pro with all updates. It is a whole
>> system
>> off without going through the shut down routine.
>>
>> The system seems fine when I boot-up again.
>>
>> I am running real time CA antivirus. And, I frequently run Spybot,
>> Adaware,
>> and Super Spyware Antispyware Repair.
>>
>> Does anyone know what might be happening?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bob
>
> I'd used CA AV since it was a freebie years ago; suddenly (in the ver. 8
> iteration?) it was bringing my XP Home box down, when I'd fire up a
> couple of different programs. My puter was fairly new, and I really
> thought I had a hardware failure, since it's pretty hard to zap the
> whole OS. But it was the CA AV.
> It would also terminate Pegasus mail if I had it activated for the
> emailer.
>
> I'd look there first. Really.
>
> MM
>

Thanks a lot. I will check it out. I like CA because it has a small
footprint. What AV did you change to?

Bob

"Hymer" <ergobob@sonic[REMOVE].net> wrote in message
news:460b21f5$0$14111$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> Hello,
>
> Over the past two weeks I have had two complete shut-downs of my computer
> when browsing with IE6 using XP Pro with all updates. It is a whole system
> off without going through the shut down routine.
>
> The system seems fine when I boot-up again.
>
> I am running real time CA antivirus. And, I frequently run Spybot,
Adaware,
> and Super Spyware Antispyware Repair.
>
> Does anyone know what might be happening?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob
>
>

You may find a clue in the event log.




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"Colon Terminus" <Colon_Terminus@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Hymer" <ergobob@sonic[REMOVE].net> wrote in message
> news:460b21f5$0$14111$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>> Hello,
>>
>> Over the past two weeks I have had two complete shut-downs of my computer
>> when browsing with IE6 using XP Pro with all updates. It is a whole
>> system
>> off without going through the shut down routine.
>>
>> The system seems fine when I boot-up again.
>>
>> I am running real time CA antivirus. And, I frequently run Spybot,
> Adaware,
>> and Super Spyware Antispyware Repair.
>>
>> Does anyone know what might be happening?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>
> You may find a clue in the event log.
>
>


Well, my box was very dusty. Worse, there are two fans on the back of the
box that got dislodged from their mounting. I am hoping that the cleanup and
fan mounting will solve the problem.

Also, the Event Log shows three errors at about the time of shutdown. Two
just
said Service Control Manager but one said IPNATHLP. Does that tell you
anything?


Thanks a lot,

Bob

"Hymer" <ergobob@sonic[REMOVE].net> wrote in message
news:460b21f5$0$14111$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> Hello,
>
> Over the past two weeks I have had two complete shut-downs of my computer
> when browsing with IE6 using XP Pro with all updates. It is a whole system
> off without going through the shut down routine.
>
> The system seems fine when I boot-up again.
>
> I am running real time CA antivirus. And, I frequently run Spybot,
> Adaware, and Super Spyware Antispyware Repair.
>
> Does anyone know what might be happening?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob
>

I work as a self employed PC tech
I replace Power supplies all the time for this sudden shutdown problem
let me guess, computer about 4 years old?
90% of the time the new PSU is the right call for me
Just a thought, good luck!

Mich...

"Mich..." <Mich8hb@netscape.net> wrote:

[snip]
>
>I work as a self employed PC tech
>I replace Power supplies all the time for this sudden shutdown problem
>let me guess, computer about 4 years old?
>90% of the time the new PSU is the right call for me
>Just a thought, good luck!

Good advice. I had an old system whose PSU blew, and took the
motherboard, two hard drive and a bunch of PCI cards with it. The caps
in the PSU were all "pregnant," except the one that blew up.

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:07:20 -0400, Larry Sabo wrote:

> "Mich..." <Mich8hb@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>>
>>I work as a self employed PC tech
>>I replace Power supplies all the time for this sudden shutdown problem
>>let me guess, computer about 4 years old?
>>90% of the time the new PSU is the right call for me
>>Just a thought, good luck!
>
> Good advice. I had an old system whose PSU blew, and took the
> motherboard, two hard drive and a bunch of PCI cards with it. The caps
> in the PSU were all "pregnant," except the one that blew up.

In many cases that "pregnant" caps are what killed the PSU. The pregnant
caps are often the result of a bad formula that was used to fill them, and
it causes them to swell and/or burst, and they often short out when they
do this.

The first thing I look at, and not just with computers, is the CAPS, and
if they are "pregnant" I don't even go any further - it's just time for a
new board at that point.

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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:07:20 -0400, Larry Sabo wrote:
>
>> "Mich..." <Mich8hb@netscape.net> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>>
>>>I work as a self employed PC tech
>>>I replace Power supplies all the time for this sudden shutdown problem
>>>let me guess, computer about 4 years old?
>>>90% of the time the new PSU is the right call for me
>>>Just a thought, good luck!
>>
>> Good advice. I had an old system whose PSU blew, and took the
>> motherboard, two hard drive and a bunch of PCI cards with it. The caps
>> in the PSU were all "pregnant," except the one that blew up.
>
> In many cases that "pregnant" caps are what killed the PSU. The pregnant
> caps are often the result of a bad formula that was used to fill them, and
> it causes them to swell and/or burst, and they often short out when they
> do this.
>
> The first thing I look at, and not just with computers, is the CAPS, and
> if they are "pregnant" I don't even go any further - it's just time for a
> new board at that point.
>


I am not familiar with the CAPS. What should I look for to see if they are
"pregnant"? Are they on the power supply?

Thanks,

Bob

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:15:02 -0700, Hymer wrote:
>
>
> I am not familiar with the CAPS. What should I look for to see if they are
> "pregnant"? Are they on the power supply?

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=195

http://www.badcaps.net/

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