Symantec CEO rips Microsoft...but not by name

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It's a "huge conflict of interest" for one company to provide both an
operating platform and a security platform, Symantec Corp. CEO John
Thompson said during a keynote speech at the Cebit trade show in
Hanover, Germany. Although Thompson didn't mention Microsoft Corp. by
name, that company's introduction of consumer and enterprise security
products to complement its operating systems could hurt Symantec, which
currently tops the security software industry by market share....
====
Not to worry, Mr. Thompson! Microsoft's "security products"
http://snipurl.com/nocare are in name only.

George Orwell wrote:
> IDG News
> http://snipurl.com/1d6zy
>
> It's a "huge conflict of interest" for one company to provide both an
> operating platform and a security platform,

That's ridiculous: what is he suggesting? That they made the OS
insecure so they could sell the security platform?


> Symantec Corp. CEO John
> Thompson said during a keynote speech at the Cebit trade show in
> Hanover, Germany. Although Thompson didn't mention Microsoft Corp. by
> name, that company's introduction of consumer and enterprise security
> products to complement its operating systems could hurt Symantec, which
> currently tops the security software industry by market share....
> ====
> Not to worry, Mr. Thompson! Microsoft's "security products"
> http://snipurl.com/nocare are in name only.
>

"George Orwell" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in
message news:b4c46c37e4d4085a4bcdfe6ab604b60a@mixmaster.it...
> IDG News
> http://snipurl.com/1d6zy
>
> It's a "huge conflict of interest" for one company to provide both an
> operating platform and a security platform, Symantec Corp. CEO John
> Thompson said during a keynote speech at the Cebit trade show in
> Hanover, Germany. Although Thompson didn't mention Microsoft Corp. by
> name, that company's introduction of consumer and enterprise security
> products to complement its operating systems could hurt Symantec,
> which
> currently tops the security software industry by market share....
> ====
> Not to worry, Mr. Thompson! Microsoft's "security products"
> http://snipurl.com/nocare are in name only.
>


Yeah, and MS Paint had Adobe shivering in their boots, too. Yeah, uh
huh, sure.

On Mar 16, 1:32 pm, George Orwell <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-
Header@[127.1]> wrote:
> IDG Newshttp://snipurl.com/1d6zy
>
> It's a "huge conflict of interest" for one company to provide both an
> operating platform and a security platform, Symantec Corp. CEO John
> Thompson said during a keynote speech at the Cebit trade show in
> Hanover, Germany. Although Thompson didn't mention Microsoft Corp. by
> name, that company's introduction of consumer and enterprise security
> products to complement its operating systems could hurt Symantec, which
> currently tops the security software industry by market share....
> ====
> Not to worry, Mr. Thompson! Microsoft's "security products" http://snipurl.com/nocare are in name only.

ars technica - http://elfurl.com/mgaa9

....one senior Microsoft manager has admitted that OneCare shouldn't
have been released at all in its present state.

"Usually Microsoft doesn't develop products, we buy products. It's not
a bad product, but bits and pieces are missing," said Arno Edelmann,
Microsoft's European business security manager. "OneCare is a new
product-they shouldn't have rolled it out when they did, but they're
fixing the problems now."
----------
Oh, good!

yohlime5@yahoo.com wrote:

<snipped>
>
> "Usually Microsoft doesn't develop products, we buy products. It's not
> a bad product, but bits and pieces are missing," said Arno Edelmann,
> Microsoft's European business security manager. "OneCare is a new
> product-they shouldn't have rolled it out when they did, but they're
> fixing the problems now."
> ----------
> Oh, good!
>
>

Your point is what? It's part of a program's life cycle of
implementation and then maintenance. You pull the trigger and release it
and don't leave it on the shelf nit picking it. You deploy it and deal
with the maintenance and improvements of the product as part of the its
life cycle.

sososos
"George Orwell" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in
message news:b4c46c37e4d4085a4bcdfe6ab604b60a@mixmaster.it...
> IDG News
> http://snipurl.com/1d6zy
>
> It's a "huge conflict of interest" for one company to provide both an
> operating platform and a security platform, Symantec Corp. CEO John
> Thompson said during a keynote speech at the Cebit trade show in
> Hanover, Germany. Although Thompson didn't mention Microsoft Corp. by
> name, that company's introduction of consumer and enterprise security
> products to complement its operating systems could hurt Symantec, which
> currently tops the security software industry by market share....
> ====
> Not to worry, Mr. Thompson! Microsoft's "security products"
> http://snipurl.com/nocare are in name only.
>

On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:16:33 GMT, Maximum Dog4 <MaximumDog4@Dog4.com>
wrote:

>Your point is what? It's part of a program's life cycle of
>implementation and then maintenance. You pull the trigger and release it
>and don't leave it on the shelf nit picking it. You deploy it and deal
>with the maintenance and improvements of the product as part of the its
>life cycle.

You must work for Microsoft!

Pegleg wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:16:33 GMT, Maximum Dog4 <MaximumDog4@Dog4.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Your point is what? It's part of a program's life cycle of
>>implementation and then maintenance. You pull the trigger and release it
>>and don't leave it on the shelf nit picking it. You deploy it and deal
>>with the maintenance and improvements of the product as part of the its
>>life cycle.
>
>
> You must work for Microsoft!

No, I am a programmer that's been programming since 1980 and I know the
drill of a program's/application's life cycle, from analysis, design,
coding/development, testing, quality assurance,
deployment/implementation and then maintenance/improvements.

It's pretty much a standard that you obviously know nothing about. It's
a computer program/application written by fallible Human Beings and no
program/application is going to be 100% perfect out the gate.

We as Human Beings are NOT perfect and nothing we create or do is going
to be perfect either. That's a fact.

On 17 Mar 2007 10:13:41 -0700, yohlime5@yahoo.com wrote:

>On Mar 16, 1:32 pm, George Orwell <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-
>Header@[127.1]> wrote:
>> IDG Newshttp://snipurl.com/1d6zy
>>
>> It's a "huge conflict of interest" for one company to provide both an
>> operating platform and a security platform, Symantec Corp. CEO John
>> Thompson said during a keynote speech at the Cebit trade show in
>> Hanover, Germany. Although Thompson didn't mention Microsoft Corp. by
>> name, that company's introduction of consumer and enterprise security
>> products to complement its operating systems could hurt Symantec, which
>> currently tops the security software industry by market share....
>> ====
>> Not to worry, Mr. Thompson! Microsoft's "security products" http://snipurl.com/nocare are in name only.
>
>ars technica - http://elfurl.com/mgaa9
>
>...one senior Microsoft manager has admitted that OneCare shouldn't
>have been released at all in its present state.
>
>"Usually Microsoft doesn't develop products, we buy products. It's not
>a bad product, but bits and pieces are missing," said Arno Edelmann,
>Microsoft's European business security manager. "OneCare is a new
>product-they shouldn't have rolled it out when they did, but they're
>fixing the problems now."
>----------
>Oh, good!

From the RISKS newsletter:

<quote>
<http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/24.60.html>

Subject: When security software goes bad...

http://www.computerworld.com/action...ticleBasic&arti
cleId=9012499&source=NLT_SEC&nlid=38

A bug in Microsoft's new security product (Windows Live OneCare) wipes
out Outlook ".pst" and Outlook Express ".dbx" files when it finds
malicious email. So it replaces one security problem (the malware)
with another (denial of service). Leads to some interesting new forms
of attack - send emails to a victim that are just bad enough to trip
up OneCare and cause it to launch a DoS attack on its users. Affects
Outlook 97 & 2000, and Outlook Express on WinXP.

Shouldn't we have a higher standard for security software in the "do
no harm" category? Seems ironic, in particular, that it's a Microsoft
product damaging another Microsoft product!

</quote>

Geo

symantec is bunko!!
"George Orwell" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in
message news:b4c46c37e4d4085a4bcdfe6ab604b60a@mixmaster.it...
> IDG News
> http://snipurl.com/1d6zy
>
> It's a "huge conflict of interest" for one company to provide both an
> operating platform and a security platform, Symantec Corp. CEO John
> Thompson said during a keynote speech at the Cebit trade show in
> Hanover, Germany. Although Thompson didn't mention Microsoft Corp. by
> name, that company's introduction of consumer and enterprise security
> products to complement its operating systems could hurt Symantec, which
> currently tops the security software industry by market share....
> ====
> Not to worry, Mr. Thompson! Microsoft's "security products"
> http://snipurl.com/nocare are in name only.
>