Vista works great!

Ok! It's a new, week old, HP, top of their line notebook, with every option,
2 hard drives, 384 m video, etc. I put 90G's of stuff including schedulers
from 1999, little programs that aren't ready for Vista, all pictures loaded
wirelessly from XP laptops and desktops, etc on it.

Rebooted after -- ** EACH **-- program install. Yas, its slow, but I will
dump ALL Norton stuff next week for non Norton or McAfee stuff to speed it
up. Great OS so far. Only one little problem. When I bought it direct from
HP, I also got a HP A616 little toy photo printer along with a real full
size printer. The A616 little photo printer won't work at all with VISTA,
but does perfectly with another new HP notebook I got from uBid / direct
from HP; that has Windows XP Media Center 2005. It's on my network so no
problem, it just can't work directly hooked to the Vista notebook. No biggie
for me.

I do believe all this gripe stuff we see is because most are trying to
upgrade poor systems, or they load more than one progran at a time before
rebooting.

Comments!!!

Well, you shouldn't need to reboot for most app installs these days unless
instructed to.

"Richard" <curtis6317@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:O6TKOk3sHHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Ok! It's a new, week old, HP, top of their line notebook, with every
> option, 2 hard drives, 384 m video, etc. I put 90G's of stuff including
> schedulers from 1999, little programs that aren't ready for Vista, all
> pictures loaded wirelessly from XP laptops and desktops, etc on it.
>
> Rebooted after -- ** EACH **-- program install. Yas, its slow, but I will
> dump ALL Norton stuff next week for non Norton or McAfee stuff to speed it
> up. Great OS so far. Only one little problem. When I bought it direct from
> HP, I also got a HP A616 little toy photo printer along with a real full
> size printer. The A616 little photo printer won't work at all with VISTA,
> but does perfectly with another new HP notebook I got from uBid / direct
> from HP; that has Windows XP Media Center 2005. It's on my network so no
> problem, it just can't work directly hooked to the Vista notebook. No
> biggie for me.
>
> I do believe all this gripe stuff we see is because most are trying to
> upgrade poor systems, or they load more than one progran at a time before
> rebooting.
>
> Comments!!!
>
>

I think that's true. Most people complain because they have old hardware
and didn't verify that their hardware would work with Vista, they have old
programs they want to use, or they do an upgrade, passing along current
issues with the new OS. One should never do an upgrade, just a clean
install.

I don't use Norton or McAfee as they are horrible programs, using system
resources, slowing down the computer, causing havoc with programs. They are
trouble. Use AVG Free or Avast. You will be happier.

I had a few issues with Vista when I first installed it, and now it runs
pretty fast, not as fast as XP, but pretty close. I have a high end PC so
it's pretty compatable with Vista. If my PC were 2 or 3 years old, I would
have stuck with XP.

Yes, there are people who have new computers who have problems installing
Microsoft products, but that goes with the territory. A service pack should
be ready by years end, more printer drivers released, more video drivers
released, and even for those Ubuntu zealots, they will probably get an
upgrade also.


"Richard" <curtis6317@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:O6TKOk3sHHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Ok! It's a new, week old, HP, top of their line notebook, with every
> option, 2 hard drives, 384 m video, etc. I put 90G's of stuff including
> schedulers from 1999, little programs that aren't ready for Vista, all
> pictures loaded wirelessly from XP laptops and desktops, etc on it.
>
> Rebooted after -- ** EACH **-- program install. Yas, its slow, but I will
> dump ALL Norton stuff next week for non Norton or McAfee stuff to speed it
> up. Great OS so far. Only one little problem. When I bought it direct from
> HP, I also got a HP A616 little toy photo printer along with a real full
> size printer. The A616 little photo printer won't work at all with VISTA,
> but does perfectly with another new HP notebook I got from uBid / direct
> from HP; that has Windows XP Media Center 2005. It's on my network so no
> problem, it just can't work directly hooked to the Vista notebook. No
> biggie for me.
>
> I do believe all this gripe stuff we see is because most are trying to
> upgrade poor systems, or they load more than one progran at a time before
> rebooting.
>
> Comments!!!
>
>

Or, they have old and insufficient hardware and know such. They insist that
Vista should run on their computer (Celeron 1.7 gig with no L2 cache). They
come here and when they are told that their system is not sufficient for
Vista, they get an attitude.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)



"Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> wrote in message
news:%23D$Ezp3sHHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I think that's true. Most people complain because they have old hardware
>and didn't verify that their hardware would work with Vista, they have old
>programs they want to use, or they do an upgrade, passing along current
>issues with the new OS. One should never do an upgrade, just a clean
>install.
>
> I don't use Norton or McAfee as they are horrible programs, using system
> resources, slowing down the computer, causing havoc with programs. They
> are trouble. Use AVG Free or Avast. You will be happier.
>
> I had a few issues with Vista when I first installed it, and now it runs
> pretty fast, not as fast as XP, but pretty close. I have a high end PC so
> it's pretty compatable with Vista. If my PC were 2 or 3 years old, I
> would have stuck with XP.
>
> Yes, there are people who have new computers who have problems installing
> Microsoft products, but that goes with the territory. A service pack
> should be ready by years end, more printer drivers released, more video
> drivers released, and even for those Ubuntu zealots, they will probably
> get an upgrade also.
>
>
> "Richard" <curtis6317@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:O6TKOk3sHHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Ok! It's a new, week old, HP, top of their line notebook, with every
>> option, 2 hard drives, 384 m video, etc. I put 90G's of stuff including
>> schedulers from 1999, little programs that aren't ready for Vista, all
>> pictures loaded wirelessly from XP laptops and desktops, etc on it.
>>
>> Rebooted after -- ** EACH **-- program install. Yas, its slow, but I will
>> dump ALL Norton stuff next week for non Norton or McAfee stuff to speed
>> it up. Great OS so far. Only one little problem. When I bought it direct
>> from HP, I also got a HP A616 little toy photo printer along with a real
>> full size printer. The A616 little photo printer won't work at all with
>> VISTA, but does perfectly with another new HP notebook I got from uBid /
>> direct from HP; that has Windows XP Media Center 2005. It's on my network
>> so no problem, it just can't work directly hooked to the Vista notebook.
>> No biggie for me.
>>
>> I do believe all this gripe stuff we see is because most are trying to
>> upgrade poor systems, or they load more than one progran at a time before
>> rebooting.
>>
>> Comments!!!
>>
>>
>
>

I don't think he has to reboot, he just wants to.


"Mac" <mac@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:%23$fS0p3sHHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Well, you shouldn't need to reboot for most app installs these days unless
> instructed to.
>
> "Richard" <curtis6317@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:O6TKOk3sHHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Ok! It's a new, week old, HP, top of their line notebook, with every
>> option, 2 hard drives, 384 m video, etc. I put 90G's of stuff including
>> schedulers from 1999, little programs that aren't ready for Vista, all
>> pictures loaded wirelessly from XP laptops and desktops, etc on it.
>>
>> Rebooted after -- ** EACH **-- program install. Yas, its slow, but I will
>> dump ALL Norton stuff next week for non Norton or McAfee stuff to speed
>> it up. Great OS so far. Only one little problem. When I bought it direct
>> from HP, I also got a HP A616 little toy photo printer along with a real
>> full size printer. The A616 little photo printer won't work at all with
>> VISTA, but does perfectly with another new HP notebook I got from uBid /
>> direct from HP; that has Windows XP Media Center 2005. It's on my network
>> so no problem, it just can't work directly hooked to the Vista notebook.
>> No biggie for me.
>>
>> I do believe all this gripe stuff we see is because most are trying to
>> upgrade poor systems, or they load more than one progran at a time before
>> rebooting.
>>
>> Comments!!!
>>
>>

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O0ZOww3sHHA.1728@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Or, they have old and insufficient hardware and know such. They insist
> that Vista should run on their computer (Celeron 1.7 gig with no L2
> cache). They come here and when they are told that their system is not
> sufficient for Vista, they get an attitude.

As I have stated earlier, the real problem they are sold these computers
from Dell and HP and told they can only use Vista. THIS is destroying the
reputation of the OS among the public. Of course the Mac adverts with the
comic Duo have capitalized on this...we will see what happens when the final
Leopard roars.

Going through direct experience with people with "so called" top of the line
Pc with Vista installed and it's hell for lot's of people.
HP machines have the most problems while Acer seem to handle it all a lot
better.

I'm a Mac (G5 Quad) and Windows user and find that Mac is just the
best....Microsoft still has a lot to learn on making things User Easy.

Andy



"Telstar" <none@none> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:uj1B223sHHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O0ZOww3sHHA.1728@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Or, they have old and insufficient hardware and know such. They insist
>> that Vista should run on their computer (Celeron 1.7 gig with no L2
>> cache). They come here and when they are told that their system is not
>> sufficient for Vista, they get an attitude.
>
> As I have stated earlier, the real problem they are sold these computers
> from Dell and HP and told they can only use Vista. THIS is destroying the
> reputation of the OS among the public. Of course the Mac adverts with the
> comic Duo have capitalized on this...we will see what happens when the
> final Leopard roars.
>
>

On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:25:38 -0400, "Richard"
<curtis6317@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>Ok! It's a new, week old, HP, top of their line notebook, with every option,
>2 hard drives, 384 m video, etc. I put 90G's of stuff including schedulers
>from 1999, little programs that aren't ready for Vista, all pictures loaded
>wirelessly from XP laptops and desktops, etc on it.
>
> Rebooted after -- ** EACH **-- program install. Yas, its slow, but I will
>dump ALL Norton stuff next week for non Norton or McAfee stuff to speed it
>up. Great OS so far. Only one little problem. When I bought it direct from
>HP, I also got a HP A616 little toy photo printer along with a real full
>size printer. The A616 little photo printer won't work at all with VISTA,
>but does perfectly with another new HP notebook I got from uBid / direct
>from HP; that has Windows XP Media Center 2005. It's on my network so no
>problem, it just can't work directly hooked to the Vista notebook. No biggie
>for me.
>
>I do believe all this gripe stuff we see is because most are trying to
>upgrade poor systems, or they load more than one progran at a time before
>rebooting.
>
>Comments!!!

I guess you're a technical whiz huh?

ROTFLMAO!

You put on 90 G's worth of stuff, oh wow, I'm impressed. I put almost
2 TB's worth of stuff, over a million files so I call you and raise
the bet, since I did a install in place.

Yep, aside from annoying BUILD-In stupidity like UAC, and never fixed
Windows Explorer, Media Player bugs and other things Microsoft never
really fixes and were broke already in XP, Vista works fine for me too
(aside from it being as slow as a snail in file handling) in spite of
being having plenty of legacy software vintage Windows 3.1 era.

The POINT that zooms over the heads of all the fanboys is Vista does
NOT work for a lot of people regardless of hardware being "certified
for Vista" and software claimed to be Vista "ready" because deep down
in the rat hole of some 50 million lines of code Vista remains buggy
as hell and some issues only show up SOMETIME for SOME people under
SOME situations using a certain combination of hardware and software.
You would think fellow users would have some sympathy. Not here, the
boneheads crew rather gloat, snort and act like little kids having
endless temper tantrums while they of course engage in non stop
pretending they're smarter than everybody else. Damn funny non stop
show.

On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:47:15 -0400, "Richard Urban"
<richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Or, they have old and insufficient hardware and know such. They insist that
>Vista should run on their computer (Celeron 1.7 gig with no L2 cache). They
>come here and when they are told that their system is not sufficient for
>Vista, they get an attitude.

An attitude worse than yours little Richie?

Windows Server 2008 Beta 3 Public Beta Works Even Better, Just FYI.

"Richard" <curtis6317@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:O6TKOk3sHHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Ok! It's a new, week old, HP, top of their line notebook, with every
> option, 2 hard drives, 384 m video, etc. I put 90G's of stuff including
> schedulers from 1999, little programs that aren't ready for Vista, all
> pictures loaded wirelessly from XP laptops and desktops, etc on it.
>
> Rebooted after -- ** EACH **-- program install. Yas, its slow, but I will
> dump ALL Norton stuff next week for non Norton or McAfee stuff to speed it
> up. Great OS so far. Only one little problem. When I bought it direct from
> HP, I also got a HP A616 little toy photo printer along with a real full
> size printer. The A616 little photo printer won't work at all with VISTA,
> but does perfectly with another new HP notebook I got from uBid / direct
> from HP; that has Windows XP Media Center 2005. It's on my network so no
> problem, it just can't work directly hooked to the Vista notebook. No
> biggie for me.
>
> I do believe all this gripe stuff we see is because most are trying to
> upgrade poor systems, or they load more than one progran at a time before
> rebooting.
>
> Comments!!!
>
>