capture PAL how?

I have a PAL miniDV tape and a NTSC sony trv900 camcorder.
The tape plays and displays fine on the build-in LCD screen.
And according to what I found on the web, it also outputs PAL video via
firewire.

However, when I try to capture the video via firewire, I got a video that
looks like it was cut into many little rectangles and scrambled (about 45 x
27 rectangles).

I tried capturing with movie maker, DVIO, virtualdub, scenalyzer, and
premiere pro. All results in this scrambled capture except premiere which
captured nothing at all. Scenalyzer results in the best capture with audio
that is shifted higher in pitch. The other captures don't have sound or stop
capture after a few seconds.

The capture works fine with NTSC tapes.

Is there something I have to do in windowsXP to enable PAL capture? I
noticed all the captured avis are 720 x 480 but should be 720 x 576 for PAL.

The PAL hardware doesn't actually output NTSC, it puts in into a format that
the NTSC capturing hardware can 'understand' and display but can't capture.

You'd need to get a multistandard multisystem VCR or a second tuner/capture
card which is in PAL and use the PC. If you want to go the VCR route, a
Samsung SV5000W is the one you should be looking for.

If you want to go the tuner/capture route, get one from Europe/Australia
from eBay. Remember it must specifically say PAL in the auction
description. (on the left hand side, remember to check Worldwide as your
search area)
--
Cari (MS-MVP)
Windows Technologies - Printing & Imaging
http://www.coribright.com/windows



"peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>I have a PAL miniDV tape and a NTSC sony trv900 camcorder.
> The tape plays and displays fine on the build-in LCD screen.
> And according to what I found on the web, it also outputs PAL video via
> firewire.
>
> However, when I try to capture the video via firewire, I got a video that
> looks like it was cut into many little rectangles and scrambled (about 45
> x 27 rectangles).
>
> I tried capturing with movie maker, DVIO, virtualdub, scenalyzer, and
> premiere pro. All results in this scrambled capture except premiere which
> captured nothing at all. Scenalyzer results in the best capture with audio
> that is shifted higher in pitch. The other captures don't have sound or
> stop capture after a few seconds.
>
> The capture works fine with NTSC tapes.
>
> Is there something I have to do in windowsXP to enable PAL capture? I
> noticed all the captured avis are 720 x 480 but should be 720 x 576 for
> PAL.
>

On 22 Jun, 23:02, "Cari \(MS-MVP\)" <NewsGro...@coribright.com> wrote:
> You'd need to get a multistandard multisystem VCR or a second tuner/capture
> card which is in PAL and use the PC. If you want to go the VCR route, a
> Samsung SV5000W is the one you should be looking for.

I think you should read the OP's message again. He was asking about
*firewire* (DV) capture, not analog video. Your suggestions for using
a PAL tuner/capture card or a VCR are not relevant to his question.

Richard.
http://www.rtrussell.co.uk/
To reply by email change 'news' to my forename.

But he has an NTSC miniDV tape and a PAL digital camcorder... they are
incompatible.
--
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www.coribright.com/Windows


<news@rtrussell.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1183908453.171499.314540@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> On 22 Jun, 23:02, "Cari \(MS-MVP\)" <NewsGro...@coribright.com> wrote:
>> You'd need to get a multistandard multisystem VCR or a second
>> tuner/capture
>> card which is in PAL and use the PC. If you want to go the VCR route, a
>> Samsung SV5000W is the one you should be looking for.
>
> I think you should read the OP's message again. He was asking about
> *firewire* (DV) capture, not analog video. Your suggestions for using
> a PAL tuner/capture card or a VCR are not relevant to his question.
>
> Richard.
> http://www.rtrussell.co.uk/
> To reply by email change 'news' to my forename.
>

I had the same problem. A good trick to get it to work is to START YOUR CAMERA playing the PAL tape before you enter the capture configuration screen. Most software will automatically pick up the PAL and capture your video fine, with no rectangles...



peter wrote:

capture PAL how?
20-Jun-07

I have a PAL miniDV tape and a NTSC sony trv900 camcorder
The tape plays and displays fine on the build-in LCD screen
And according to what I found on the web, it also outputs PAL video via
firewire

However, when I try to capture the video via firewire, I got a video that
looks like it was cut into many little rectangles and scrambled (about 45 x
27 rectangles)

I tried capturing with movie maker, DVIO, virtualdub, scenalyzer, and
premiere pro. All results in this scrambled capture except premiere which
captured nothing at all. Scenalyzer results in the best capture with audio
that is shifted higher in pitch. The other captures don't have sound or stop
capture after a few seconds

The capture works fine with NTSC tapes

Is there something I have to do in windowsXP to enable PAL capture? I
noticed all the captured avis are 720 x 480 but should be 720 x 576 for PAL.

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<marc m> wrote in message news:200992513430regelemarcel@yahoo.com...
>I had the same problem. A good trick to get it to work is to START YOUR
>CAMERA playing the PAL tape before you enter the capture configuration
>screen. Most software will automatically pick up the PAL and capture your
>video fine, with no rectangles...
>

You've replied to a post apparently from June 07?
And the problem could be anything.... An NTSC monitor not PAL/SECAM
compliant,
refresh rate, graphics card, or simply using the softwares drop down menu to
select capture as PAL rather than convert on-the-fly from PAL to NTSC during
capture...
Nontheless, entertaining to see that posts from years ago still get
read.....

>
> peter wrote:
>
> capture PAL how?
> 20-Jun-07
>

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