Deleting Admin Account

I have a system on which I want to delete the Admin account. I have
already created another account with administrative priviledges, as
well as another with only limited priviledges. I don't know if it is
safe to completely delete the Admin account, and if it is can I safely
do so through the "user accounts" section of the control panel ?

Duck wrote:
> I have a system on which I want to delete the Admin account. I have
> already created another account with administrative priviledges, as
> well as another with only limited priviledges. I don't know if it
> is safe to completely delete the Admin account, and if it is can I
> safely do so through the "user accounts" section of the control
> panel ?

You cannot delete the built-in administrator account.
You can 'rename' it - but it cannot be deleted/disabled.

Having more than one administrative level account is *not* necessarily a bad
thing - as long as the password for such accounts are strong ones. In
fact - it can save you in certain situations.

However - you should *not* generally use a administrative level account for
daily normal use.

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On Jun 2, 4:08 pm, "Shenan Stanley" <newshel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Duck wrote:
> > I have a system on which I want to delete the Admin account. I have
> > already created another account with administrative priviledges, as
> > well as another with only limited priviledges. I don't know if it
> > is safe to completely delete the Admin account, and if it is can I
> > safely do so through the "user accounts" section of the control
> > panel ?
>
> You cannot delete the built-in administrator account.
> You can 'rename' it - but it cannot be deleted/disabled.
>
> Having more than one administrative level account is *not* necessarily a bad
> thing - as long as the password for such accounts are strong ones. In
> fact - it can save you in certain situations.
>
> However - you should *not* generally use a administrative level account for
> daily normal use.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Wayhttp://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Shenan,

Thanks for that bit of knowledge....now..can I use my new
administrative level account to change the Type of the Admin account
to a limited account, and be sure that if someone knows the Admin
password that they can not change the type back to administrator
priviledges?

"Duck" <charles.kendricks@charter.net> wrote in message
news:1180826323.211280.292920@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 2, 4:08 pm, "Shenan Stanley" <newshel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Duck wrote:
>> > I have a system on which I want to delete the Admin account. I have
>> > already created another account with administrative priviledges, as
>> > well as another with only limited priviledges. I don't know if it
>> > is safe to completely delete the Admin account, and if it is can I
>> > safely do so through the "user accounts" section of the control
>> > panel ?
>>
>> You cannot delete the built-in administrator account.
>> You can 'rename' it - but it cannot be deleted/disabled.
>>
>> Having more than one administrative level account is *not* necessarily a
>> bad
>> thing - as long as the password for such accounts are strong ones. In
>> fact - it can save you in certain situations.
>>
>> However - you should *not* generally use a administrative level account
>> for
>> daily normal use.
>>
>> --
>> Shenan Stanley
>> MS-MVP
>> --
>> How To Ask Questions The Smart
>> Wayhttp://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> Shenan,
>
> Thanks for that bit of knowledge....now..can I use my new
> administrative level account to change the Type of the Admin account
> to a limited account, and be sure that if someone knows the Admin
> password that they can not change the type back to administrator
> priviledges?
>
No you cannot convert this built in account to any other group than
administrators.
Jim

Duck wrote:
> Thanks for that bit of knowledge....now..can I use my new
> administrative level account to change the Type of the Admin account
> to a limited account, and be sure that if someone knows the Admin
> password that they can not change the type back to administrator
> priviledges?

You should use the built-in administrator account to change the account you
created to a limited account (or create yourself a third account - non-admin
level.)

The built-in administrator cannot be changed from the administrative level,
deleted or disabled. It can be renamed so the username is not
*administrator* - but that is more of a technique known as 'security by
obscurity ' and is not real effective against more than a casual computer
person.

You should password protect (with different passwords would be best) each
administrator level account (if not all accounts) with strong passwords.
What I suggest for a strong password is the following:

Passwords should contain at least eight characters, and the
character string should contain at least three of these four
character types:

- uppercase letters
- lowercase letters
- numerals
- nonalphanumeric characters (e.g., *, %, &, !,

Passwords should not contain your name/username.
Passwords should be unique to you and easy to remember.

Anyone who obtains administrative level access to your machine - owns
everything *not* encrypted on that machine. They can - as administrative
level users - do anything they desire (change account levels, add/remove
accounts, take ownership of files, change other users passwords, etc....
And anyone with time/a little knowledge and free access to the computer can
gain administrative access.

So - in answer to your question:
"... and be sure that if someone knows the Admin password that they can not
change the type back to administrator priviledges ..."

Not gonna happen. If you do not want them to be able to change the type of
account - they cannot have a few things:

1) They cannot know the administrator password (any administrative level
account on that machine.)
2) The BIOS should be protected by a password (and they cannot know that
one.)
3) The boot order should be set to hdd first.
4) The physical machine should be off-limits or somehow locked closed so
they cannot remove the BIOS battery or find other ways to bypass the BIOS
security and change the boot order allowing them to boot from a
CD/DVD/floppy/etc that gives them more power on your system.
5) The limited users should have no method of installing software/hardware.
6) Private time with the computer should be severely limited.

Most of those are fairly unrealistic.

So the best you can hope is to set the BIOS password, set the boot order,
padlock the case shut and put strong passwords on all accounts - especially
the administrative level accounts and ensure only a select few (one if
plausible) know said administrative level account passwords.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
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http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

In news:esN24mWpHHA.1148@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
Shenan Stanley <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote:
> Duck wrote:

<snipped>

> You cannot delete the built-in administrator account.
> You can 'rename' it - but it cannot be deleted/disabled.

<snipped>

> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP

Since your statement that the Administrator account can't be
disabled differed with my experience I went back and checked.
On my test system running XP Pro, I launched Local User and
Groups, right clicked Administrator, checked "Account is
disabled". I then logged off and tried to log in with the
Administrator account. I received an error message that the
account was disabled. Am I missing something?

Nepatsfan

Shenan Stanley wrote:
<snipped>
> You can 'rename' it - but it cannot be deleted/disabled.
<snipped>

Nepatsfan wrote:
> Since your statement that the Administrator account can't be
> disabled differed with my experience I went back and checked.
> On my test system running XP Pro, I launched Local User and
> Groups, right clicked Administrator, checked "Account is
> disabled". I then logged off and tried to log in with the
> Administrator account. I received an error message that the
> account was disabled. Am I missing something?

No - I misspoke.
You can - in fact - screw things up pretty badly. heh

How to disable the Local Administrator account in Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281140

I don't see any purpose in doing that...

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