Vista 32-bit vs. 64 bit

I am about to by a new laptop. It will be equipped with the new Intel Santa
Rosa, 2GB RAM, the new Nvidia 8400 and so on. But then I run into the
following problem:

It doesn't matter which provider I choose (Sony, HP, Acer, etc.), when it
comes down to the selection of a Vista Version, no matter which one (Basic,
Home Premium, even Ultimate, according to HP), they are all 32-bit, which I
find a little bit silly, since the processor and accessories are 64-bit.

I thought that if I bought a Vista, both versions would be anyway available,
the 32-bit and the 64-bit. But then I found out that, apparently, that's not
the case. I surfed the Vista site, and I am still confused. It seems that
maybe the Ultimate version has a DVD available (64-bit media), but I am not
sure if that means that the Ultimate comes with the two Windows versions, or
just that it comes with a media DVD of 64-bit.

So, my question would be:

If I really want to have my new laptop with a 64-bit Vista, do I have to
wait until the computer manufacturers decide to put a 64-bit Vista on it, or
if I buy one of the 32-bit options (Home Premium or Ultimate) then I would be
able to upgrade the OS without having to re-purchase a new Vista?

you are entitled to the 64 bit version without paying anything extra..
accept perhaps the media and shipment..

I dont know the details but I think Retail Vista ultimate has both dvds
inside for 32 and 64 bit
while for the non retail you have to order it...

perhaps someone else will confirm this


"Catenaccio" <Catenaccio@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I am about to by a new laptop. It will be equipped with the new Intel Santa
> Rosa, 2GB RAM, the new Nvidia 8400 and so on. But then I run into the
> following problem:
>
> It doesn't matter which provider I choose (Sony, HP, Acer, etc.), when it
> comes down to the selection of a Vista Version, no matter which one
> (Basic,
> Home Premium, even Ultimate, according to HP), they are all 32-bit, which
> I
> find a little bit silly, since the processor and accessories are 64-bit.
>
> I thought that if I bought a Vista, both versions would be anyway
> available,
> the 32-bit and the 64-bit. But then I found out that, apparently, that's
> not
> the case. I surfed the Vista site, and I am still confused. It seems that
> maybe the Ultimate version has a DVD available (64-bit media), but I am
> not
> sure if that means that the Ultimate comes with the two Windows versions,
> or
> just that it comes with a media DVD of 64-bit.
>
> So, my question would be:
>
> If I really want to have my new laptop with a 64-bit Vista, do I have to
> wait until the computer manufacturers decide to put a 64-bit Vista on it,
> or
> if I buy one of the 32-bit options (Home Premium or Ultimate) then I would
> be
> able to upgrade the OS without having to re-purchase a new Vista?

ohh.. I have to add something here... just to make sure you know it..

make sure that IF you decide to install the 64 bit version, your warrantee
will not be VOID!

Many laptop vendors are picky.. and may say that you have support ONLY with
the 32 bit version you
got preinstalled!


"Catenaccio" <Catenaccio@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:77AAAABF-557B-4D86-977C-4D30981D1B0F@microsoft.com...
>I am about to by a new laptop. It will be equipped with the new Intel Santa
> Rosa, 2GB RAM, the new Nvidia 8400 and so on. But then I run into the
> following problem:
>
> It doesn't matter which provider I choose (Sony, HP, Acer, etc.), when it
> comes down to the selection of a Vista Version, no matter which one
> (Basic,
> Home Premium, even Ultimate, according to HP), they are all 32-bit, which
> I
> find a little bit silly, since the processor and accessories are 64-bit.
>
> I thought that if I bought a Vista, both versions would be anyway
> available,
> the 32-bit and the 64-bit. But then I found out that, apparently, that's
> not
> the case. I surfed the Vista site, and I am still confused. It seems that
> maybe the Ultimate version has a DVD available (64-bit media), but I am
> not
> sure if that means that the Ultimate comes with the two Windows versions,
> or
> just that it comes with a media DVD of 64-bit.
>
> So, my question would be:
>
> If I really want to have my new laptop with a 64-bit Vista, do I have to
> wait until the computer manufacturers decide to put a 64-bit Vista on it,
> or
> if I buy one of the 32-bit options (Home Premium or Ultimate) then I would
> be
> able to upgrade the OS without having to re-purchase a new Vista?

In message <#4UeZVWmHHA.3888@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> "Tiberius"
<James@tiberius.kirk> wrote:

>ohh.. I have to add something here... just to make sure you know it..
>
>make sure that IF you decide to install the 64 bit version, your warrantee
>will not be VOID!
>
>Many laptop vendors are picky.. and may say that you have support ONLY with
>the 32 bit version you
>got preinstalled!

They won't support you with the 64-bit OS installed, but that doesn't
void your warranty, it just adds some extra hassle if you need to
contact technical support.

--
"These, and other cliches will be available to you all for one more
day of training, with me"
-- Jack O'Neill

Thank you.

Regarding this (which will be my case, for sure): " while for the non retail
you have to order it..."

What does it mean? that I buy my new, let's say, Sony Vaio computer and then
have to ask MS (or Sony?) for the 64-bit version? In this case, I will have
to pay just delivery or would I be "purchasing" the 64-bit option?

> make sure that IF you decide to install the 64 bit version, your warrantee
> will not be VOID!

Yes, I was warned against it

But I would not be worry if I have to wait until the end of the warranty to
work on the upgrade (as of today, there's not much in 64-bit yet, not at
least anything critical). But after one year (the warranty period) I will be
by my own, and I also expect that more and more 64-bit software will be
coming. Then, I would like to have the option to upgrade... but not at the
cost of buying a new Vista.

read this page:

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcas...ista_ff_x64.asp

"purhcasers of other retail 32-bit Vista versions can order the 64-bit
version from Microsoft for a nominal fee."



"Catenaccio" <Catenaccio@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Thank you.
>
> Regarding this (which will be my case, for sure): " while for the non
> retail
> you have to order it..."
>
> What does it mean? that I buy my new, let's say, Sony Vaio computer and
> then
> have to ask MS (or Sony?) for the 64-bit version? In this case, I will
> have
> to pay just delivery or would I be "purchasing" the 64-bit option?
>
>

so the question arises.. does this also include the OEM versions?

since the laptop preinstalled oem version of vista, does that oem liscence
allow you to go 64 bit?


Lets see what other people have to say about this too


"Catenaccio" <Catenaccio@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Thank you.
>
> Regarding this (which will be my case, for sure): " while for the non
> retail
> you have to order it..."
>
> What does it mean? that I buy my new, let's say, Sony Vaio computer and
> then
> have to ask MS (or Sony?) for the 64-bit version? In this case, I will
> have
> to pay just delivery or would I be "purchasing" the 64-bit option?
>
>

"you are entitled to the 64 bit version without paying anything extra"
FALSE
The OP is obviously referring to OEM.
If the OEM chooses to sell the computer with only 32 bit, a buyer is
NOT "entitled" to anything else.

You seem to be confusing your facts again.
OEM and retail are different.
Retail Vista either comes with 32 and 64 bit or you can order the 64
bit media for a small fee

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
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> you are entitled to the 64 bit version without paying anything
> extra.. accept perhaps the media and shipment..
>
> I dont know the details but I think Retail Vista ultimate has both
> dvds inside for 32 and 64 bit
> while for the non retail you have to order it...
>
> perhaps someone else will confirm this

If the OEM does not include 64 bit, do not assume it is included.
If the OEM chooses not to provide the media, that is their choice and
nothing we can do about it except purchase elsewhere.
Verify with the OEM before purchase that what you need included is
included.

All 4 versions of retail Vista comes with 32 bit DVD while Ultimate
comes with 2 DVDs, 32 bit and 64 bit.

Also see:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/vistaget.htm

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Catenaccio" <Catenaccio@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:77AAAABF-557B-4D86-977C-4D30981D1B0F@microsoft.com...
>I am about to by a new laptop. It will be equipped with the new Intel
>Santa
> Rosa, 2GB RAM, the new Nvidia 8400 and so on. But then I run into
> the
> following problem:
>
> It doesn't matter which provider I choose (Sony, HP, Acer, etc.),
> when it
> comes down to the selection of a Vista Version, no matter which one
> (Basic,
> Home Premium, even Ultimate, according to HP), they are all 32-bit,
> which I
> find a little bit silly, since the processor and accessories are
> 64-bit.
>
> I thought that if I bought a Vista, both versions would be anyway
> available,
> the 32-bit and the 64-bit. But then I found out that, apparently,
> that's not
> the case. I surfed the Vista site, and I am still confused. It seems
> that
> maybe the Ultimate version has a DVD available (64-bit media), but I
> am not
> sure if that means that the Ultimate comes with the two Windows
> versions, or
> just that it comes with a media DVD of 64-bit.
>
> So, my question would be:
>
> If I really want to have my new laptop with a 64-bit Vista, do I
> have to
> wait until the computer manufacturers decide to put a 64-bit Vista
> on it, or
> if I buy one of the 32-bit options (Home Premium or Ultimate) then I
> would be
> able to upgrade the OS without having to re-purchase a new Vista?