Is there a deeply embeded memory leak in Vista?

Seems like it. I can't prove it though. I've seen the same series of
events several times now over the course of the three months I've had
Vista installed.

Computer on all day, (this time about 13 hours), I'm doing my usual
things, everything seems fine. Then out of the blue the system first
slows down a little, then more then it starts to crawl over the space
of a couple minutes. You see all the teletale signs of something
eating up system resources. The keyboard first becomes slow to respond
then becomes almost totally non responsive. Anything on screen takes
forever to get redrawn. You can see image files that use to open
instantly now slowly scroll open taking seconds to complete, ditto for
text documents. Trying to open a new application that used to open in
a few seconds now takes minutes to open.

No, indexer isn't running. Neither is anti-virus or defrag.

I go to Task Manager and one by one close down my running
applications. I get to the point nothing but Windows itself is left
running. System hasn't improved performance at all. Still as sluggish
as a snail suffering from heat stroke. All kinds of crap, all Windows
crap seen in Resources monitor accessing my hard drive and CPU very
busy. Finally, in disgust I'm forced to shut down. Reboot, system
normal again.

Damn it Microsoft, can't you ever fix Windows so it actually works
like it is suppose to?

Damn it! It works perfectly on my computer. What are the specific problems,
preferably one post per issue. You could possibly get your system up and
running.
"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
news:h90543dpiruspunnjd5c1krvqgedt6flfr@4ax.com...
> Seems like it. I can't prove it though. I've seen the same series of
> events several times now over the course of the three months I've had
> Vista installed.
>
> Computer on all day, (this time about 13 hours), I'm doing my usual
> things, everything seems fine. Then out of the blue the system first
> slows down a little, then more then it starts to crawl over the space
> of a couple minutes. You see all the teletale signs of something
> eating up system resources. The keyboard first becomes slow to respond
> then becomes almost totally non responsive. Anything on screen takes
> forever to get redrawn. You can see image files that use to open
> instantly now slowly scroll open taking seconds to complete, ditto for
> text documents. Trying to open a new application that used to open in
> a few seconds now takes minutes to open.
>
> No, indexer isn't running. Neither is anti-virus or defrag.
>
> I go to Task Manager and one by one close down my running
> applications. I get to the point nothing but Windows itself is left
> running. System hasn't improved performance at all. Still as sluggish
> as a snail suffering from heat stroke. All kinds of crap, all Windows
> crap seen in Resources monitor accessing my hard drive and CPU very
> busy. Finally, in disgust I'm forced to shut down. Reboot, system
> normal again.
>
> Damn it Microsoft, can't you ever fix Windows so it actually works
> like it is suppose to?
>

On Wed, 9 May 2007 20:13:34 -0700, "Charles W Davis"
<Anthemwebs@lvcoxmail.com> wrote:

>Damn it! It works perfectly on my computer. What are the specific problems,
>preferably one post per issue. You could possibly get your system up and
>running.

Oh wow, the always popular "it works on my computer" excuse.

Damn, so many useful idiots post here. How much more specific can I
get than saying nothing running but Windows and it is crawling after
being in use for 13 hours. Duh!

Double damn, when will people learn to READ? My system is up and
running, been so for months. I'm simply reporting ANNOYING issues that
keep croping up and no fanboy, no MVP, no MS employee is willing to
touch with a ten foot pole. I wonder why not. <snicker>

Vista loves to eat memory and resources. your best bet to get memory maager
like Memokit and you can find what is eating memory.. Also take a look at
the Reliability and Performance Monitor.

"Charles W Davis" <Anthemwebs@lvcoxmail.com> wrote in message
news:B83AC2D0-59EB-44E6-9076-44C3F282889B@microsoft.com...
> Damn it! It works perfectly on my computer. What are the specific
> problems, preferably one post per issue. You could possibly get your
> system up and running.
> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
> news:h90543dpiruspunnjd5c1krvqgedt6flfr@4ax.com...
>> Seems like it. I can't prove it though. I've seen the same series of
>> events several times now over the course of the three months I've had
>> Vista installed.
>>
>> Computer on all day, (this time about 13 hours), I'm doing my usual
>> things, everything seems fine. Then out of the blue the system first
>> slows down a little, then more then it starts to crawl over the space
>> of a couple minutes. You see all the teletale signs of something
>> eating up system resources. The keyboard first becomes slow to respond
>> then becomes almost totally non responsive. Anything on screen takes
>> forever to get redrawn. You can see image files that use to open
>> instantly now slowly scroll open taking seconds to complete, ditto for
>> text documents. Trying to open a new application that used to open in
>> a few seconds now takes minutes to open.
>>
>> No, indexer isn't running. Neither is anti-virus or defrag.
>>
>> I go to Task Manager and one by one close down my running
>> applications. I get to the point nothing but Windows itself is left
>> running. System hasn't improved performance at all. Still as sluggish
>> as a snail suffering from heat stroke. All kinds of crap, all Windows
>> crap seen in Resources monitor accessing my hard drive and CPU very
>> busy. Finally, in disgust I'm forced to shut down. Reboot, system
>> normal again.
>>
>> Damn it Microsoft, can't you ever fix Windows so it actually works
>> like it is suppose to?
>>
>

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
news:h90543dpiruspunnjd5c1krvqgedt6flfr@4ax.com...
> Seems like it. I can't prove it though. I've seen the same series of
> events several times now over the course of the three months I've had
> Vista installed.
>
> Computer on all day, (this time about 13 hours), I'm doing my usual
> things, everything seems fine. Then out of the blue the system first
> slows down a little, then more then it starts to crawl over the space
> of a couple minutes. You see all the teletale signs of something
> eating up system resources. The keyboard first becomes slow to respond
> then becomes almost totally non responsive. Anything on screen takes
> forever to get redrawn. You can see image files that use to open
> instantly now slowly scroll open taking seconds to complete, ditto for
> text documents. Trying to open a new application that used to open in
> a few seconds now takes minutes to open.
>
> No, indexer isn't running. Neither is anti-virus or defrag.
>
> I go to Task Manager and one by one close down my running
> applications. I get to the point nothing but Windows itself is left
> running. System hasn't improved performance at all. Still as sluggish
> as a snail suffering from heat stroke. All kinds of crap, all Windows
> crap seen in Resources monitor accessing my hard drive and CPU very
> busy. Finally, in disgust I'm forced to shut down. Reboot, system
> normal again.
>
> Damn it Microsoft, can't you ever fix Windows so it actually works
> like it is suppose to?
>

How do you know it's Windows?

What is to say that malware has not hit the machine?

You know malware can piggy back off any running process like SVChost.exe.
That's why you use tools like Process Explorer to like at a process and look
inside a process and see what's running with it. Not only that, if it's not
malware, then PE may help you find the root cause of the problem.

Show Lower Pane off of View menu and Show All Dll's. You can right-click a
task in the upper pane and go to Properties. You can do the same in the
Lower Pane.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/2ys9h3

Vista version of PE can be found here, along with other Sysinternals tools
to help you look around.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sy...ls/default.mspx

How to use PE and other tools are in the link. Active Ports will not run on
Vista.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/klw1

What is a memory leak, which I don't think the O/S is having. I am not
saying that something cannot go *Wild*.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_leak

Adam Albright wrote:

> Computer on all day, (this time about 13 hours), I'm doing my usual
> things, everything seems fine. Then out of the blue the system first
> slows down a little, then more then it starts to crawl over the space
> of a couple minutes. You see all the teletale signs of something
> eating up system resources. The keyboard first becomes slow to respond
> then becomes almost totally non responsive. Anything on screen takes
> forever to get redrawn. You can see image files that use to open
> instantly now slowly scroll open taking seconds to complete, ditto for
> text documents. Trying to open a new application that used to open in
> a few seconds now takes minutes to open.

That's a problem for Dr. Frank! Me, I use Ubuntu and as I write this, my
last boot was 12 days, 13 hours, 19 minutes ago and that's only because I
swapped in a new hard drive back then and had to shutdown the system.
Nothing has slowed down over the course of this session.

Love and Kisses,
Doris

--
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i don't use IE, but Firefox, and no problems.

AlbertGr <AlbertGr.2qmm3k@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in
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I am curious if someone else can confirm or reproduce (or
> even solve) this Vista memory-leak.
>
>

Sorry, my mistake, I thought you meant IE7 not Explorer within Vista's
UI.

Tested your issue today, Vista Basic, I opened explorer and 70
subwindows beneath it, and tracked its size with Task Manager, I shut
all the windows down and it reclaimed memory, but not right away, there
seemed to a delay when the mem usage registered.

I'll keep you posted.



AlbertGr <AlbertGr.2qnujh@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in
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> Using Firefox is not relevant for not having the leak, because the
> file explorer.exe is an integral component of the OS, it handles not
> only the browser IE, but also many other maintenence functions for the
> OS. Even if you use another browser, the memory usage size of
> explorer.exe keeps expanding when opening/closing folders in Vista.
>
>

Gracias Albert. Keep us posted.



AlbertGr <AlbertGr.2qqs3g@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in
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>
> Update: I discovered that the background service of PGP 9.6 (Pretty Good
> Privacy, see http://www.pgp.com for information), that I purchased and
> installed, causes explorer.exe and the amount of resource handles to
> keep growing.

Thanks A, will replicate your result. I use Vista Home Basic.


AlbertGr <AlbertGr.2qz1bi@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in
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Slowly a rise in memory usage is visible.
> So far the interim-result. I keep everyone posted.
>
> Regards,
> Albert
>
>