Re: Bugs/Limitations with Middle Button

(cross-post added to Vista General)
"SS" <SS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> The Middle Button (clicking on the scroll wheel) is supposed to open a link
> in a new tab. This feature is very nice and works well in most cases, but I
> have two main complaints about it.
>
> 1) BUG: If you have the Links toolbar open and middle click one of those
> links while the webpage below is still loading, IE will usually act is if the
> link were left clicked.


Not a bug IMO. The Links bar (at least under XPsp2) is part of the original
implementation before tabs existed. In fact, if anything I'm surprised that
Middleclick does anything there.

BTW which OS are you referring to? Perhaps under Vista tabs are better
integrated? Cross-posting to Vista General to solicit clarification on that.


>
> (The exception seems to be if IE is nearly done loading the page, middle
> clicking will often correctly open in a new tab.) Note that the page must
> still be loading for this bug to occur. I have broadband, so many pages load
> too quickly for this to be a problem, but I experience this bug virtually
> every time with large pages (such as www.microsoft.com).


Interesting! Perhaps that quirk will make up for a deficiency that I noted
on the transition between IE6 and IE7. In IE6 I used to regularly
press Ctrl-N while a link was loading in order to open a new window
with the old contents--very useful when the window was being reused
because there was no opportunity to open the link in a new window.
In IE7 when a new link is loading, Ctrl-N clones the new window,
not the old one. Each version it seems has its own quirks for unspecified
use-cases. ; o


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> This occurs even
> with all add-ons disabled, so I don't believe I have anything causing a
> conflict. Also note that middle clicking an item in the Favorites list while
> it is pinned and a page is loading does NOT cause this problem. As far as I
> can tell, this bug is limited to the Links toolbar.
>
> As a related bonus suggestion, the context menu (the popup when you right
> click) for the links on the Links toolbar does not include the ability to
> Open in New Tab or Open in New Window. I suggest that those two items get
> added to the context menu. This part is a lower priority suggestion, since I
> would only rarely want to use those choices, though Open in New Window would
> be useful in many cases. It would make IE7 more consistent, though, since
> virtually every other link in IE7 gets those choices in their context menus.
>
> 2) LIMITATION: Middle clicking the Home button causes nothing to happen.
>
> I realize that I can easily use the new tab button to open my home page in a
> new tab, but on my widescreen monitor, those two buttons are on opposite
> sides of the screen. Many times I want to go to the home page in the same
> window, so when I want to go to my home page, I intuitively move my mouse to
> the home page button. If (after thinking that I want to go to my home page)
> I instead decide I want the home page to be in a new tab, I must then move my
> mouse to the other side of the screen. Why not make the middle button work
> here as well?
>
> Another bonus suggestion: when I click the arrow next to the Home button,
> middle clicking any of my home pages also does nothing. Again, I would only
> rarely want to do that (I normally only have one home page), but it would
> seem consistent with other parts of IE7 to make middle clicking any of those
> choices (including the Home button itself) open the links in a new tab.
>
> Any thoughts? Please consider voting I Agree, below, and help make IE7
> better!
>
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I was referring to Windows XP SP2. Sorry, I probably should have mentioned
that originally.

"The Links bar (at least under XPsp2) is part of the original implementation
before tabs existed. "

I was thinking that that might be the case, and would have accepted a
limitation where the Links toolbar would not be "tab friendly." (Though, I
would probably still post a suggestion that it should become tab friendly.)
However, once they coded the middle button (or Ctrl+Click) to work, it seems
that it should be fully integrated. But I understand your point; it's not
really a bug, it's more of a limitation. Either way, I still humbly request
that Microsoft fully integrates the functionality into the Links toolbar.

"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

> (cross-post added to Vista General)
> "SS" <SS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0EDA53D7-1C16-48B2-8D93-8DBBFA709A23@microsoft.com...
> > The Middle Button (clicking on the scroll wheel) is supposed to open a link
> > in a new tab. This feature is very nice and works well in most cases, but I
> > have two main complaints about it.
> >
> > 1) BUG: If you have the Links toolbar open and middle click one of those
> > links while the webpage below is still loading, IE will usually act is if the
> > link were left clicked.
>
>
> Not a bug IMO. The Links bar (at least under XPsp2) is part of the original
> implementation before tabs existed. In fact, if anything I'm surprised that
> Middleclick does anything there.
>
> BTW which OS are you referring to? Perhaps under Vista tabs are better
> integrated? Cross-posting to Vista General to solicit clarification on that.
>
>
> >
> > (The exception seems to be if IE is nearly done loading the page, middle
> > clicking will often correctly open in a new tab.) Note that the page must
> > still be loading for this bug to occur. I have broadband, so many pages load
> > too quickly for this to be a problem, but I experience this bug virtually
> > every time with large pages (such as www.microsoft.com).
>
>
> Interesting! Perhaps that quirk will make up for a deficiency that I noted
> on the transition between IE6 and IE7. In IE6 I used to regularly
> press Ctrl-N while a link was loading in order to open a new window
> with the old contents--very useful when the window was being reused
> because there was no opportunity to open the link in a new window.
> In IE7 when a new link is loading, Ctrl-N clones the new window,
> not the old one. Each version it seems has its own quirks for unspecified
> use-cases. ; o
>
>
> ---
>
>
> > This occurs even
> > with all add-ons disabled, so I don't believe I have anything causing a
> > conflict. Also note that middle clicking an item in the Favorites list while
> > it is pinned and a page is loading does NOT cause this problem. As far as I
> > can tell, this bug is limited to the Links toolbar.
> >
> > As a related bonus suggestion, the context menu (the popup when you right
> > click) for the links on the Links toolbar does not include the ability to
> > Open in New Tab or Open in New Window. I suggest that those two items get
> > added to the context menu. This part is a lower priority suggestion, since I
> > would only rarely want to use those choices, though Open in New Window would
> > be useful in many cases. It would make IE7 more consistent, though, since
> > virtually every other link in IE7 gets those choices in their context menus.
> >
> > 2) LIMITATION: Middle clicking the Home button causes nothing to happen.
> >
> > I realize that I can easily use the new tab button to open my home page in a
> > new tab, but on my widescreen monitor, those two buttons are on opposite
> > sides of the screen. Many times I want to go to the home page in the same
> > window, so when I want to go to my home page, I intuitively move my mouse to
> > the home page button. If (after thinking that I want to go to my home page)
> > I instead decide I want the home page to be in a new tab, I must then move my
> > mouse to the other side of the screen. Why not make the middle button work
> > here as well?
> >
> > Another bonus suggestion: when I click the arrow next to the Home button,
> > middle clicking any of my home pages also does nothing. Again, I would only
> > rarely want to do that (I normally only have one home page), but it would
> > seem consistent with other parts of IE7 to make middle clicking any of those
> > choices (including the Home button itself) open the links in a new tab.
> >
> > Any thoughts? Please consider voting I Agree, below, and help make IE7
> > better!
> >
> > ----------------
> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...xplorer.general
>
>
>