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Old 03-08-2006, 07:55 PM   #1
Robert Aldwinckle
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(cross-post added to Vista Printing, Faxing, & Scanning
--currently not accessible to users of the Vista Help portal)
"Sandi - Microsoft MVP" <sandi_hardmeier@mvps.org> wrote in message news:ONTWXpttGHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Please refer this question to one of the Vista newsgroups. Thsi newsgroups is for Internet Explorer.



Sandi,

I suspect this poster is using the Vista Help portal.
IE General is unfortunately linked from a button there
labeled Printing, Faxing, and Scanning


<excerpt from="previous post">

If you'd like to use the web interface to access the proper newsgroup
you would need to use a different portal such as this one.

http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...7&lang=en&cr=US

Or just use a real newsreader, such as your Vista's Windows Mail app
by copying and pasting this link into an IE Address bar

news://msnews.microsoft.com/microso....print_fax_scan

In OE this would create a news account and open it in that newsgroup.
You might want to customize your account before posting with it.
Hopefully WM does the same; otherwise just use the server name
and the newsgroup name separately in whatever way they do allow
them to be used. Similar parsing of the above URL would need to be done
by most newsreaders other than OE too because it is not a standard syntax.

In any case I suggest that all users of the Help portal
who want to post to common newsgroups such as this one
and the other 5 at the bottom of the list here

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/co...us/default.mspx

consider also crossposting to Vista General Discussion too.
That way you will probably give your post a better targeted readership.
It will also allow Vista users to find your information by searching there.
E.g. when Vista posts are made only in the provided common newsgroups
all of their information may be lost to Vista users who only try searching
on their Help portal.

BTW to find out how to cross-post using the web interface
you can use the Help link and then do a find for Advanced options
</excerpt>


Since I wrote that I have found that in fact such posters can search
IE General implicitly, so it's not as bad as I thought and the main
disadvantage for them will be that the only effective browsing
they will be able to do in here will require that they use very loose
search filters such as print, fax, or scan.

Of course the completeness of such search results will in turn
rely on all relevant threads using those keywords at least once.
I'm not sure but I suspect the search would ignore posts which only used
compounds of those word stems. Google Groups has the same problem
but at least with it you can search with a Boolean expression which would
include most of the matches a stem otherwise would. For example,
fax* (if supported) would match fax and faxing; so in Google Groups
I would search for (fax OR faxing) to substitute. In the web interface
in contrast a user would have to do multiple separate searches using
each variation of a stem and then have to deal with all resulting
redundancies manually.


FYI

Robert
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>
> --
>
> Sandi Hardmeier
> Microsoft MVP since 1999
> http://www.ie-vista.com
> Internet Explorer Community
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie...ty/default.mspx
> The email address I use for newsgroups is a spam trap and does not get read.
>
> "y4me" <y4me@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8A6A93DE-4970-497A-94DD-FFEF1AD777C4@microsoft.com...
>>I can't use the fax, I get " some of the recipient fax number are not in
>> canonical format. The dialing rule selected will not be applied"
>> and nothing happends.
>>
>> Can someone help??? thanks
>>

>
>
>





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Old 07-08-2006, 11:26 PM   #2
Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I]
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In response to the original question, are your fax numbers stored in
Canonical format?

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=318575
Dialing Rules May Not Be Applied to Tools Such as Fax
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=247192
You Must Enter Telephone Numbers in Canonical Form in Order to Use Dialing
Rules
http://www.slipstick.com/config/olphone.htm
Microsoft Outlook Phone Numbers

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"Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> wrote in message
news:%23d$RHbztGHA.5032@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> (cross-post added to Vista Printing, Faxing, & Scanning
> --currently not accessible to users of the Vista Help portal)
> "Sandi - Microsoft MVP" <sandi_hardmeier@mvps.org> wrote in message

news:ONTWXpttGHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > Please refer this question to one of the Vista newsgroups. Thsi

newsgroups is for Internet Explorer.
>
>
> Sandi,
>
> I suspect this poster is using the Vista Help portal.
> IE General is unfortunately linked from a button there
> labeled Printing, Faxing, and Scanning
>
>
> <excerpt from="previous post">
>
> If you'd like to use the web interface to access the proper newsgroup
> you would need to use a different portal such as this one.
>
>

http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...7&lang=en&cr=US
>
> Or just use a real newsreader, such as your Vista's Windows Mail app
> by copying and pasting this link into an IE Address bar
>
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microso....print_fax_scan
>
> In OE this would create a news account and open it in that newsgroup.
> You might want to customize your account before posting with it.
> Hopefully WM does the same; otherwise just use the server name
> and the newsgroup name separately in whatever way they do allow
> them to be used. Similar parsing of the above URL would need to be done
> by most newsreaders other than OE too because it is not a standard syntax.
>
> In any case I suggest that all users of the Help portal
> who want to post to common newsgroups such as this one
> and the other 5 at the bottom of the list here
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/co...us/default.mspx
>
> consider also crossposting to Vista General Discussion too.
> That way you will probably give your post a better targeted readership.
> It will also allow Vista users to find your information by searching

there.
> E.g. when Vista posts are made only in the provided common newsgroups
> all of their information may be lost to Vista users who only try searching
> on their Help portal.
>
> BTW to find out how to cross-post using the web interface
> you can use the Help link and then do a find for Advanced options
> </excerpt>
>
>
> Since I wrote that I have found that in fact such posters can search
> IE General implicitly, so it's not as bad as I thought and the main
> disadvantage for them will be that the only effective browsing
> they will be able to do in here will require that they use very loose
> search filters such as print, fax, or scan.
>
> Of course the completeness of such search results will in turn
> rely on all relevant threads using those keywords at least once.
> I'm not sure but I suspect the search would ignore posts which only used
> compounds of those word stems. Google Groups has the same problem
> but at least with it you can search with a Boolean expression which would
> include most of the matches a stem otherwise would. For example,
> fax* (if supported) would match fax and faxing; so in Google Groups
> I would search for (fax OR faxing) to substitute. In the web

interface
> in contrast a user would have to do multiple separate searches using
> each variation of a stem and then have to deal with all resulting
> redundancies manually.
>
>
> FYI
>
> Robert
> ---
>
>
> >
> > --
> >
> > Sandi Hardmeier
> > Microsoft MVP since 1999
> > http://www.ie-vista.com
> > Internet Explorer Community
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie...ty/default.mspx
> > The email address I use for newsgroups is a spam trap and does not get

read.
> >
> > "y4me" <y4me@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:8A6A93DE-4970-497A-94DD-FFEF1AD777C4@microsoft.com...
> >>I can't use the fax, I get " some of the recipient fax number are not in
> >> canonical format. The dialing rule selected will not be applied"
> >> and nothing happends.
> >>
> >> Can someone help??? thanks
> >>

> >
> >
> >

>
>
>
>



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