Re: ok to post images of bugs here?

There is a newsgroup on this server for Vista Windows Mail issues. I'm
adding it to this message.

The server will only take images of about 80 Kbytes as previously indicated,
but small images for clarification are not a problem.

What were the bugs you found?

steve

MS-MVP
Outlook Express
Windows Mail

"AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message
news22E3E7E-17C0-4A6F-B13B-B63B7CFA4190@microsoft.com...
> Hey, as some people might have the ability to get screen shots of bugs, is
> it ok to post them in here attached to a message about this bug? I think
> maybe no as it's not like a binary group, but I'm just curious. I think if
> there was a way to show off screen shots of a bug, it'd be nice to know
> where to do this.
>
> For me personally I have encountered a visual bug in Windows Mail that I
> took a screen shot of and I'd like to share it. So far I've encountered 2
> pretty serious bugs in Windows Mail. In my opinion they are serious.

"Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
news:5852CDA6-1E38-4578-A60C-8A8750553124@microsoft.com...
> There is a newsgroup on this server for Vista Windows Mail issues. I'm
> adding it to this message.
>
> The server will only take images of about 80 Kbytes as previously
> indicated, but small images for clarification are not a problem.
>
> What were the bugs you found?
>
> steve
>
> MS-MVP
> Outlook Express
> Windows Mail
>
> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message
> news22E3E7E-17C0-4A6F-B13B-B63B7CFA4190@microsoft.com...
>> Hey, as some people might have the ability to get screen shots of bugs,
>> is it ok to post them in here attached to a message about this bug? I
>> think maybe no as it's not like a binary group, but I'm just curious. I
>> think if there was a way to show off screen shots of a bug, it'd be nice
>> to know where to do this.
>>
>> For me personally I have encountered a visual bug in Windows Mail that I
>> took a screen shot of and I'd like to share it. So far I've encountered 2
>> pretty serious bugs in Windows Mail. In my opinion they are serious.
>


Steve, thanks for the message. I've already got the vista.mail newsgroup, I
forget if I posted in there or not, lol.
Umm, I did submit 3 or 4 bug reports to MS using the reporting tool and with
the 2 bugs or 3 bugs I found in Vista.mail one of them I attached the screen
shot.

There is a bug that when you create a news server account and it asks if you
want to download the group list, it won't. It starts to and then stops
saying an unknown error has occurred. Every single time. It does download
some of the groups from the list, but not all.

The other bug is a visual anomoly in the group list window. When you load
the group list window and there are group names in there you wil get a
visual bug if you click on the scroll bar to the right. It won't drag with
you hardly plus when I click on it it turns into a big greyish color spot
that takes over the whole scroll bar itself or most of it and then to the
left into the group list area itself covering up some of the names of
groups. Also when clicking on the scroll bar for me the first time i did
this it didn't move the scroll bar but it thought i clicked in the group
list window itself and was selecting for me the group list and highliting
the names. I didn't click in the group list window, but right on the scroll
bar.

I want to create a new news server, but it won't let me because it won't
download the group list for me.

> There is a bug that when you create a news server account and it asks if
> you want to download the group list, it won't. It starts to and then stops
> saying an unknown error has occurred. Every single time. It does download
> some of the groups from the list, but not all.

There is a known bug on this, but I'd need to know the server that you are
trying to access, to verify this problem is the same as the one that is
being tracked.

> The other bug is a visual anomoly in the group list window. When you load
> the group list window and there are group names in there you wil get a
> visual bug if you click on the scroll bar to the right. It won't drag with
> you hardly plus when I click on it it turns into a big greyish color spot
> that takes over the whole scroll bar itself or most of it and then to the
> left into the group list area itself covering up some of the names of
> groups. Also when clicking on the scroll bar for me the first time i did
> this it didn't move the scroll bar but it thought i clicked in the group
> list window itself and was selecting for me the group list and highliting
> the names. I didn't click in the group list window, but right on the
> scroll bar.

This is a known bug, and has an internal fix. I don't know when the fix
will be in released builds.

> I want to create a new news server, but it won't let me because it won't
> download the group list for me.

I know your pain, but keep filing the bugs it's the only way for us to make
a better product for you.

Judd

"Highspar" <Highspar@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:7E9AE803-6C84-47EF-856C-6A0562341866@microsoft.com...
>> There is a bug that when you create a news server account and it asks if
>> you want to download the group list, it won't. It starts to and then
>> stops saying an unknown error has occurred. Every single time. It does
>> download some of the groups from the list, but not all.
>
> There is a known bug on this, but I'd need to know the server that you are
> trying to access, to verify this problem is the same as the one that is
> being tracked.
>
>> The other bug is a visual anomoly in the group list window. When you load
>> the group list window and there are group names in there you wil get a
>> visual bug if you click on the scroll bar to the right. It won't drag
>> with you hardly plus when I click on it it turns into a big greyish color
>> spot that takes over the whole scroll bar itself or most of it and then
>> to the left into the group list area itself covering up some of the names
>> of groups. Also when clicking on the scroll bar for me the first time i
>> did this it didn't move the scroll bar but it thought i clicked in the
>> group list window itself and was selecting for me the group list and
>> highliting the names. I didn't click in the group list window, but right
>> on the scroll bar.
>
> This is a known bug, and has an internal fix. I don't know when the fix
> will be in released builds.
>
>> I want to create a new news server, but it won't let me because it won't
>> download the group list for me.
>
> I know your pain, but keep filing the bugs it's the only way for us to
> make a better product for you.
>
> Judd


Judd, thanks for the response, so the bugs I submitted were known already,
haha.
Do you work on Mail or anything since you said us to make a better product
for you?

The news server I am wanting to get connected to in Windows Mail is
usenetserver. www.usenetserver.com
news.usenetserver.com is the address.

A workaround if you want to access a particular NG on that server would be
to create a URL to the NG and then you can stick that into Start | Run to go
to that NG, or make an HTML file and click on the link.

news:// newsservername / newsgroupname

without the spaces. Clicking on that will load up the NG and you can then
subscribe to it.

steve

"AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message
news:E7D7223F-A10D-49A9-A302-E73563790B95@microsoft.com...
> "Highspar" <Highspar@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:7E9AE803-6C84-47EF-856C-6A0562341866@microsoft.com...
>>> There is a bug that when you create a news server account and it asks if
>>> you want to download the group list, it won't. It starts to and then
>>> stops saying an unknown error has occurred. Every single time. It does
>>> download some of the groups from the list, but not all.
>>
>> There is a known bug on this, but I'd need to know the server that you
>> are trying to access, to verify this problem is the same as the one that
>> is being tracked.
>>
>>> The other bug is a visual anomoly in the group list window. When you
>>> load the group list window and there are group names in there you wil
>>> get a visual bug if you click on the scroll bar to the right. It won't
>>> drag with you hardly plus when I click on it it turns into a big greyish
>>> color spot that takes over the whole scroll bar itself or most of it and
>>> then to the left into the group list area itself covering up some of the
>>> names of groups. Also when clicking on the scroll bar for me the first
>>> time i did this it didn't move the scroll bar but it thought i clicked
>>> in the group list window itself and was selecting for me the group list
>>> and highliting the names. I didn't click in the group list window, but
>>> right on the scroll bar.
>>
>> This is a known bug, and has an internal fix. I don't know when the fix
>> will be in released builds.
>>
>>> I want to create a new news server, but it won't let me because it won't
>>> download the group list for me.
>>
>> I know your pain, but keep filing the bugs it's the only way for us to
>> make a better product for you.
>>
>> Judd
>
>
> Judd, thanks for the response, so the bugs I submitted were known already,
> haha.
> Do you work on Mail or anything since you said us to make a better product
> for you?
>
> The news server I am wanting to get connected to in Windows Mail is
> usenetserver. www.usenetserver.com
> news.usenetserver.com is the address.

Now that is cool! Didn't know about that till now, but it's really really
cool to do that! Thanks for the tip!

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--: Original message follows :--
"Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
news:FBE4AE97-E567-40A3-99D4-73B594FD240F@microsoft.com...
>A workaround if you want to access a particular NG on that server would be
>to create a URL to the NG and then you can stick that into Start | Run to
>go to that NG, or make an HTML file and click on the link.
>
> news:// newsservername / newsgroupname
>
> without the spaces. Clicking on that will load up the NG and you can then
> subscribe to it.
>
> steve
>
> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message
> news:E7D7223F-A10D-49A9-A302-E73563790B95@microsoft.com...
>> "Highspar" <Highspar@invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:7E9AE803-6C84-47EF-856C-6A0562341866@microsoft.com...
>>>> There is a bug that when you create a news server account and it asks
>>>> if you want to download the group list, it won't. It starts to and then
>>>> stops saying an unknown error has occurred. Every single time. It does
>>>> download some of the groups from the list, but not all.
>>>
>>> There is a known bug on this, but I'd need to know the server that you
>>> are trying to access, to verify this problem is the same as the one that
>>> is being tracked.
>>>
>>>> The other bug is a visual anomoly in the group list window. When you
>>>> load the group list window and there are group names in there you wil
>>>> get a visual bug if you click on the scroll bar to the right. It won't
>>>> drag with you hardly plus when I click on it it turns into a big
>>>> greyish color spot that takes over the whole scroll bar itself or most
>>>> of it and then to the left into the group list area itself covering up
>>>> some of the names of groups. Also when clicking on the scroll bar for
>>>> me the first time i did this it didn't move the scroll bar but it
>>>> thought i clicked in the group list window itself and was selecting for
>>>> me the group list and highliting the names. I didn't click in the group
>>>> list window, but right on the scroll bar.
>>>
>>> This is a known bug, and has an internal fix. I don't know when the fix
>>> will be in released builds.
>>>
>>>> I want to create a new news server, but it won't let me because it
>>>> won't download the group list for me.
>>>
>>> I know your pain, but keep filing the bugs it's the only way for us to
>>> make a better product for you.
>>>
>>> Judd
>>
>>
>> Judd, thanks for the response, so the bugs I submitted were known
>> already, haha.
>> Do you work on Mail or anything since you said us to make a better
>> product for you?
>>
>> The news server I am wanting to get connected to in Windows Mail is
>> usenetserver. www.usenetserver.com
>> news.usenetserver.com is the address.
>

"Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
news:FBE4AE97-E567-40A3-99D4-73B594FD240F@microsoft.com...
>A workaround if you want to access a particular NG on that server would be
>to create a URL to the NG and then you can stick that into Start | Run to
>go to that NG, or make an HTML file and click on the link.
>
> news:// newsservername / newsgroupname
>
> without the spaces. Clicking on that will load up the NG and you can then
> subscribe to it.
>
> steve
>
> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message
> news:E7D7223F-A10D-49A9-A302-E73563790B95@microsoft.com...
>> "Highspar" <Highspar@invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:7E9AE803-6C84-47EF-856C-6A0562341866@microsoft.com...
>>>> There is a bug that when you create a news server account and it asks
>>>> if you want to download the group list, it won't. It starts to and then
>>>> stops saying an unknown error has occurred. Every single time. It does
>>>> download some of the groups from the list, but not all.
>>>
>>> There is a known bug on this, but I'd need to know the server that you
>>> are trying to access, to verify this problem is the same as the one that
>>> is being tracked.
>>>
>>>> The other bug is a visual anomoly in the group list window. When you
>>>> load the group list window and there are group names in there you wil
>>>> get a visual bug if you click on the scroll bar to the right. It won't
>>>> drag with you hardly plus when I click on it it turns into a big
>>>> greyish color spot that takes over the whole scroll bar itself or most
>>>> of it and then to the left into the group list area itself covering up
>>>> some of the names of groups. Also when clicking on the scroll bar for
>>>> me the first time i did this it didn't move the scroll bar but it
>>>> thought i clicked in the group list window itself and was selecting for
>>>> me the group list and highliting the names. I didn't click in the group
>>>> list window, but right on the scroll bar.
>>>
>>> This is a known bug, and has an internal fix. I don't know when the fix
>>> will be in released builds.
>>>
>>>> I want to create a new news server, but it won't let me because it
>>>> won't download the group list for me.
>>>
>>> I know your pain, but keep filing the bugs it's the only way for us to
>>> make a better product for you.
>>>
>>> Judd
>>
>>
>> Judd, thanks for the response, so the bugs I submitted were known
>> already, haha.
>> Do you work on Mail or anything since you said us to make a better
>> product for you?
>>
>> The news server I am wanting to get connected to in Windows Mail is
>> usenetserver. www.usenetserver.com
>> news.usenetserver.com is the address.
>


That's really cool, I know I've seen these types of links on some web pages,
but didn't ever think to create my own link to a group haha, that's awesome.
I think since my xp box has this all working fine since it's xp I'll wait
till Vista is released again later with the bug fixed.

Brilliant workaround Steve, it never occurred to me to use the news url that
way.


"Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
news:FBE4AE97-E567-40A3-99D4-73B594FD240F@microsoft.com...
>A workaround if you want to access a particular NG on that server would be
>to create a URL to the NG and then you can stick that into Start | Run to
>go to that NG, or make an HTML file and click on the link.
>
> news:// newsservername / newsgroupname
>
> without the spaces. Clicking on that will load up the NG and you can then
> subscribe to it.
>
> steve
>
> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message
> news:E7D7223F-A10D-49A9-A302-E73563790B95@microsoft.com...
>> "Highspar" <Highspar@invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:7E9AE803-6C84-47EF-856C-6A0562341866@microsoft.com...
>>>> There is a bug that when you create a news server account and it asks
>>>> if you want to download the group list, it won't. It starts to and then
>>>> stops saying an unknown error has occurred. Every single time. It does
>>>> download some of the groups from the list, but not all.
>>>
>>> There is a known bug on this, but I'd need to know the server that you
>>> are trying to access, to verify this problem is the same as the one that
>>> is being tracked.
>>>
>>>> The other bug is a visual anomoly in the group list window. When you
>>>> load the group list window and there are group names in there you wil
>>>> get a visual bug if you click on the scroll bar to the right. It won't
>>>> drag with you hardly plus when I click on it it turns into a big
>>>> greyish color spot that takes over the whole scroll bar itself or most
>>>> of it and then to the left into the group list area itself covering up
>>>> some of the names of groups. Also when clicking on the scroll bar for
>>>> me the first time i did this it didn't move the scroll bar but it
>>>> thought i clicked in the group list window itself and was selecting for
>>>> me the group list and highliting the names. I didn't click in the group
>>>> list window, but right on the scroll bar.
>>>
>>> This is a known bug, and has an internal fix. I don't know when the fix
>>> will be in released builds.
>>>
>>>> I want to create a new news server, but it won't let me because it
>>>> won't download the group list for me.
>>>
>>> I know your pain, but keep filing the bugs it's the only way for us to
>>> make a better product for you.
>>>
>>> Judd
>>
>>
>> Judd, thanks for the response, so the bugs I submitted were known
>> already, haha.
>> Do you work on Mail or anything since you said us to make a better
>> product for you?
>>
>> The news server I am wanting to get connected to in Windows Mail is
>> usenetserver. www.usenetserver.com
>> news.usenetserver.com is the address.
>

"Highspar" <Highspar@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:4B1012B8-7CA6-4E4B-BDF9-9890BC8868B8@microsoft.com...
> Brilliant workaround Steve, it never occurred to me to use the news url
> that way.


The method is used quite a lot in the OE newsgroups, in an attempt to get
posters away from using the Web interface, instead of using the tool that
they are asking the question about.

Generally because many of those posters rarely find their way back to the
interface to find the replies.

See this sig'


--
You will find that this is a much better way to post a question:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microso..._outlookexpress

--
Regards Steve.
MS-MVP. OE. [DTS]

Hi Judd,

It was new to OE4. <VBG>

cheers,

steve

"Highspar" <Highspar@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:4B1012B8-7CA6-4E4B-BDF9-9890BC8868B8@microsoft.com...
> Brilliant workaround Steve, it never occurred to me to use the news url
> that way.
>
>
> "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
> news:FBE4AE97-E567-40A3-99D4-73B594FD240F@microsoft.com...
>>A workaround if you want to access a particular NG on that server would be
>>to create a URL to the NG and then you can stick that into Start | Run to
>>go to that NG, or make an HTML file and click on the link.
>>
>> news:// newsservername / newsgroupname
>>
>> without the spaces. Clicking on that will load up the NG and you can
>> then subscribe to it.
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message
>> news:E7D7223F-A10D-49A9-A302-E73563790B95@microsoft.com...
>>> "Highspar" <Highspar@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7E9AE803-6C84-47EF-856C-6A0562341866@microsoft.com...
>>>>> There is a bug that when you create a news server account and it asks
>>>>> if you want to download the group list, it won't. It starts to and
>>>>> then stops saying an unknown error has occurred. Every single time. It
>>>>> does download some of the groups from the list, but not all.
>>>>
>>>> There is a known bug on this, but I'd need to know the server that you
>>>> are trying to access, to verify this problem is the same as the one
>>>> that is being tracked.
>>>>
>>>>> The other bug is a visual anomoly in the group list window. When you
>>>>> load the group list window and there are group names in there you wil
>>>>> get a visual bug if you click on the scroll bar to the right. It won't
>>>>> drag with you hardly plus when I click on it it turns into a big
>>>>> greyish color spot that takes over the whole scroll bar itself or most
>>>>> of it and then to the left into the group list area itself covering up
>>>>> some of the names of groups. Also when clicking on the scroll bar for
>>>>> me the first time i did this it didn't move the scroll bar but it
>>>>> thought i clicked in the group list window itself and was selecting
>>>>> for me the group list and highliting the names. I didn't click in the
>>>>> group list window, but right on the scroll bar.
>>>>
>>>> This is a known bug, and has an internal fix. I don't know when the
>>>> fix will be in released builds.
>>>>
>>>>> I want to create a new news server, but it won't let me because it
>>>>> won't download the group list for me.
>>>>
>>>> I know your pain, but keep filing the bugs it's the only way for us to
>>>> make a better product for you.
>>>>
>>>> Judd
>>>
>>>
>>> Judd, thanks for the response, so the bugs I submitted were known
>>> already, haha.
>>> Do you work on Mail or anything since you said us to make a better
>>> product for you?
>>>
>>> The news server I am wanting to get connected to in Windows Mail is
>>> usenetserver. www.usenetserver.com
>>> news.usenetserver.com is the address.
>>
>