Sign into Windows Mail - passport dialog?

Hi,

I just installed Vista beta 2. And I am trying out Windows Mail. When I try
to post a question to the MS Newsgroups it asks me to Sign Into Windows Mail
and its a Passport Dialog.

I think this is very misleading. Newsgroups are Newsgroups why am i required
to provide my Passport ID for posting questions?

Secondly, Why does the dialog read Sign In to Windows Mail? It's highly
misleading since I have no clue why I should sign-in. I am posting to a
newsgroup, it should probablly tell me to sign on to a news group not
Windows Mail!

Regards,
Saurabh Nandu
www.AksTech.com

Because it prevents spamming. If you want to submit anything to Microsoft,
or recieve anything from Microsoft, generally you will need to prove who you
are by signing in with a Windows Live ID or Passport.

Sign into Windows Mail... sign into the newsgroups... either way, it doesn't
really matter all that much.

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"Saurabh Nandu" <saurabh@noreply.mastercsharp.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I just installed Vista beta 2. And I am trying out Windows Mail. When I
> try to post a question to the MS Newsgroups it asks me to Sign Into
> Windows Mail and its a Passport Dialog.
>
> I think this is very misleading. Newsgroups are Newsgroups why am i
> required to provide my Passport ID for posting questions?
>
> Secondly, Why does the dialog read Sign In to Windows Mail? It's highly
> misleading since I have no clue why I should sign-in. I am posting to a
> newsgroup, it should probablly tell me to sign on to a news group not
> Windows Mail!
>
> Regards,
> Saurabh Nandu
> www.AksTech.com

Hi,

Tools/options/general tab, uncheck the line to use community support
features.

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"Saurabh Nandu" <saurabh@noreply.mastercsharp.com> wrote in message
news:610D14CD-CB36-4D81-87F9-2560D1BBDA98@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> I just installed Vista beta 2. And I am trying out Windows Mail. When I
> try to post a question to the MS Newsgroups it asks me to Sign Into
> Windows Mail and its a Passport Dialog.
>
> I think this is very misleading. Newsgroups are Newsgroups why am i
> required to provide my Passport ID for posting questions?
>
> Secondly, Why does the dialog read Sign In to Windows Mail? It's highly
> misleading since I have no clue why I should sign-in. I am posting to a
> newsgroup, it should probablly tell me to sign on to a news group not
> Windows Mail!
>
> Regards,
> Saurabh Nandu
> www.AksTech.com

Go to Tools > Accounts > select the "Microsoft Help Groups" > Properties >
Passport > select the "Never use Community features that require Passport"
radio box > OK.
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"Saurabh Nandu" <saurabh@noreply.mastercsharp.com> wrote in message
news:610D14CD-CB36-4D81-87F9-2560D1BBDA98@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> I just installed Vista beta 2. And I am trying out Windows Mail. When I
> try to post a question to the MS Newsgroups it asks me to Sign Into
> Windows Mail and its a Passport Dialog.
>
> I think this is very misleading. Newsgroups are Newsgroups why am i
> required to provide my Passport ID for posting questions?
>
> Secondly, Why does the dialog read Sign In to Windows Mail? It's highly
> misleading since I have no clue why I should sign-in. I am posting to a
> newsgroup, it should probablly tell me to sign on to a news group not
> Windows Mail!
>
> Regards,
> Saurabh Nandu
> www.AksTech.com

Zack,

It does matter since this functionality is turned on By Default without my
confirmation. I know a hell lot of people who hate MS passport and if MS
wants to impose this functionality on everyone by default they need to first
inform the user I belive.


Regards,
Saurabh Nandu

"Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:uH4aYHkgGHA.4080@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Because it prevents spamming. If you want to submit anything to Microsoft,
> or recieve anything from Microsoft, generally you will need to prove who
> you are by signing in with a Windows Live ID or Passport.
>
> Sign into Windows Mail... sign into the newsgroups... either way, it
> doesn't really matter all that much.
>
> --
> Zack Whittaker
> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
> not
> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared
> that up!
>
> --: Original message follows :--
> "Saurabh Nandu" <saurabh@noreply.mastercsharp.com> wrote in message
> news:610D14CD-CB36-4D81-87F9-2560D1BBDA98@microsoft.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just installed Vista beta 2. And I am trying out Windows Mail. When I
>> try to post a question to the MS Newsgroups it asks me to Sign Into
>> Windows Mail and its a Passport Dialog.
>>
>> I think this is very misleading. Newsgroups are Newsgroups why am i
>> required to provide my Passport ID for posting questions?
>>
>> Secondly, Why does the dialog read Sign In to Windows Mail? It's highly
>> misleading since I have no clue why I should sign-in. I am posting to a
>> newsgroup, it should probablly tell me to sign on to a news group not
>> Windows Mail!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Saurabh Nandu
>> www.AksTech.com
>
>

Thanks ... But shouldn't MS make it more prominant when they ask me for a
Passport ID the first time. Since it leaves the new user clueless why this
sort of Login is required. Also what benefit the end user gains from
Community Support needs clear articulation, don't you think?

Regards,
Saurabh Nandu

"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23X0mzwkgGHA.1520@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> Tools/options/general tab, uncheck the line to use community support
> features.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "Saurabh Nandu" <saurabh@noreply.mastercsharp.com> wrote in message
> news:610D14CD-CB36-4D81-87F9-2560D1BBDA98@microsoft.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just installed Vista beta 2. And I am trying out Windows Mail. When I
>> try to post a question to the MS Newsgroups it asks me to Sign Into
>> Windows Mail and its a Passport Dialog.
>>
>> I think this is very misleading. Newsgroups are Newsgroups why am i
>> required to provide my Passport ID for posting questions?
>>
>> Secondly, Why does the dialog read Sign In to Windows Mail? It's highly
>> misleading since I have no clue why I should sign-in. I am posting to a
>> newsgroup, it should probablly tell me to sign on to a news group not
>> Windows Mail!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Saurabh Nandu
>> www.AksTech.com
>

thanks for your response.

Regards,
Saurabh Nandu

"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OvSdygmgGHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Go to Tools > Accounts > select the "Microsoft Help Groups" > Properties >
> Passport > select the "Never use Community features that require Passport"
> radio box > OK.
> --
> --
> Andre
> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
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> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>
> "Saurabh Nandu" <saurabh@noreply.mastercsharp.com> wrote in message
> news:610D14CD-CB36-4D81-87F9-2560D1BBDA98@microsoft.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just installed Vista beta 2. And I am trying out Windows Mail. When I
>> try to post a question to the MS Newsgroups it asks me to Sign Into
>> Windows Mail and its a Passport Dialog.
>>
>> I think this is very misleading. Newsgroups are Newsgroups why am i
>> required to provide my Passport ID for posting questions?
>>
>> Secondly, Why does the dialog read Sign In to Windows Mail? It's highly
>> misleading since I have no clue why I should sign-in. I am posting to a
>> newsgroup, it should probablly tell me to sign on to a news group not
>> Windows Mail!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Saurabh Nandu
>> www.AksTech.com
>
>

You're using Microsoft Beta OS/Applications, and you're trying to access
Microsoft servers with Microsoft's own beta-grade software... having to
authenticate with their Passport/Live ID scheme to access Microsoft's
servers seems absolutely normal and necessary. It's more secure (in
business speak, not technical terms).

As for making these things clear, that is a *marketing* concern, and i'm
certain it is on their plate to make all these nooks and crannies be in-line
with acceptable standard practices.

- naseru

"Saurabh Nandu" <saurabh@noreply.mastercsharp.com> wrote in message
news:9C893FD4-C533-4ACF-A9F5-8175B6769B0C@microsoft.com...
> Thanks ... But shouldn't MS make it more prominant when they ask me for a
> Passport ID the first time. Since it leaves the new user clueless why this
> sort of Login is required. Also what benefit the end user gains from
> Community Support needs clear articulation, don't you think?
>
> Regards,
> Saurabh Nandu
>
> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%23X0mzwkgGHA.1520@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> Tools/options/general tab, uncheck the line to use community support
>> features.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>
>> "Saurabh Nandu" <saurabh@noreply.mastercsharp.com> wrote in message
>> news:610D14CD-CB36-4D81-87F9-2560D1BBDA98@microsoft.com...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I just installed Vista beta 2. And I am trying out Windows Mail. When I
>>> try to post a question to the MS Newsgroups it asks me to Sign Into
>>> Windows Mail and its a Passport Dialog.
>>>
>>> I think this is very misleading. Newsgroups are Newsgroups why am i
>>> required to provide my Passport ID for posting questions?
>>>
>>> Secondly, Why does the dialog read Sign In to Windows Mail? It's highly
>>> misleading since I have no clue why I should sign-in. I am posting to a
>>> newsgroup, it should probablly tell me to sign on to a news group not
>>> Windows Mail!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Saurabh Nandu
>>> www.AksTech.com
>>
>

It shouldn't be required because you are running beta software and it does
not. Its really a feature for persons who use the client in Windows to
access ngs and want to take advantage of its features such finding helpful
post.
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"Naseru" <naseru@antideas.com> wrote in message
newsF610F7C-6AAB-490F-9CB0-1A36AC68C03F@microsoft.com...
> You're using Microsoft Beta OS/Applications, and you're trying to access
> Microsoft servers with Microsoft's own beta-grade software... having to
> authenticate with their Passport/Live ID scheme to access Microsoft's
> servers seems absolutely normal and necessary. It's more secure (in
> business speak, not technical terms).
>
> As for making these things clear, that is a *marketing* concern, and i'm
> certain it is on their plate to make all these nooks and crannies be
> in-line with acceptable standard practices.
>
> - naseru
>
> "Saurabh Nandu" <saurabh@noreply.mastercsharp.com> wrote in message
> news:9C893FD4-C533-4ACF-A9F5-8175B6769B0C@microsoft.com...
>> Thanks ... But shouldn't MS make it more prominant when they ask me for a
>> Passport ID the first time. Since it leaves the new user clueless why
>> this sort of Login is required. Also what benefit the end user gains from
>> Community Support needs clear articulation, don't you think?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Saurabh Nandu
>>
>> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:%23X0mzwkgGHA.1520@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Tools/options/general tab, uncheck the line to use community support
>>> features.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best of Luck,
>>>
>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>>
>>> "Saurabh Nandu" <saurabh@noreply.mastercsharp.com> wrote in message
>>> news:610D14CD-CB36-4D81-87F9-2560D1BBDA98@microsoft.com...
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I just installed Vista beta 2. And I am trying out Windows Mail. When I
>>>> try to post a question to the MS Newsgroups it asks me to Sign Into
>>>> Windows Mail and its a Passport Dialog.
>>>>
>>>> I think this is very misleading. Newsgroups are Newsgroups why am i
>>>> required to provide my Passport ID for posting questions?
>>>>
>>>> Secondly, Why does the dialog read Sign In to Windows Mail? It's highly
>>>> misleading since I have no clue why I should sign-in. I am posting to a
>>>> newsgroup, it should probablly tell me to sign on to a news group not
>>>> Windows Mail!
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Saurabh Nandu
>>>> www.AksTech.com
>>>
>>
>