I guess its official - No Hotmail-Live Mail Support

Well, it was answered in the newsgroup chat, because things going on between
the Hotmail and Outlook Express team support for Hotmail and Windows Live
Mail accounts has been discontinued.
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Sssshh... beta chat... we can't say anything about beta chats can we? (

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"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:eXTr$54UGHA.5364@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Well, it was answered in the newsgroup chat,
because things going on between > the Hotmail and
Outlook Express team support for Hotmail and Windows Live
> Mail accounts has been discontinued.
> --
> --
> Andre
> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>
>

The transcript is public Zack.
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"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
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Sssshh... beta chat... we can't say anything about beta chats can we? (

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--- Original message follows ---
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eXTr$54UGHA.5364@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Well, it was answered in the newsgroup chat,
because things going on between > the Hotmail and
Outlook Express team support for Hotmail and Windows Live
> Mail accounts has been discontinued.
> --
> --
> Andre
> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>
>

Ooooh right $ Sorry...

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"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> The transcript is public Zack.
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>
> "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:eS9TlI5UGHA.1304@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Sssshh... beta chat... we can't say anything about beta chats can we? (
>
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> not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we
> cleared that up!
>
>
> --- Original message follows ---
> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eXTr$54UGHA.5364@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Well, it was answered in the newsgroup chat,
> because things going on between > the Hotmail and
> Outlook Express team support for Hotmail and Windows Live
>> Mail accounts has been discontinued.
>> --
>> --
>> Andre
>> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>
>>
>

"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eXTr$54UGHA.5364@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Well, it was answered in the newsgroup chat, because things going on
> between the Hotmail and Outlook Express team support for Hotmail and
> Windows Live Mail accounts has been discontinued.
> --


That's been a known issue for a long time. I've known it for a year. :-)

The replacement for it, Windows Live Mail Desktop beta will support it, pop
and imap accounts as well as RSS feeds and retain newsgroup support.
http://spaces.msn.com/MoreThanMail shows a list of items it supports.

This is what I don't understand... you've called Windows Live Mail Desktop a
"replacement" to Windows Mail. And this is a view shared by many.

So, why doesn't Microsoft just ship Windows Live Mail Desktop Beta with
Windows Vista, instead of Windows Mail?

Windows Live Mail Desktop Beta would likely have a much larger user base
(compared to Windows Mail) by the time Windows Vista is RTM.

Cheers,
Ramin

"DGuess" <majik@mindspring.oops> wrote in message
news:0191E943-217A-468B-B915-9FB85F771D67@microsoft.com...
> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eXTr$54UGHA.5364@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Well, it was answered in the newsgroup chat, because things going on
>> between the Hotmail and Outlook Express team support for Hotmail and
>> Windows Live Mail accounts has been discontinued.
>> --
>
>
> That's been a known issue for a long time. I've known it for a year. :-)
>
> The replacement for it, Windows Live Mail Desktop beta will support it,
> pop and imap accounts as well as RSS feeds and retain newsgroup support.
> http://spaces.msn.com/MoreThanMail shows a list of items it supports.
>
>
>
>
>

There needs to be a basic mail program that is installed with the OS.

I don't particularly want Hotmail or advertisements filling my computer up
with trash. I don't use hotmail and don't like ads, so I wouldn't use the
WLMD much at all. If you like ads, then you should love WLMD.

Its NOT a replacement for Windows Mail or OE, its a separate mail entity
that has much of the same functionality that will be in Vista Windows Mail.

steve

Durn insert bug is still there.

"Ramin" <ramin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OV6Sc7iVGHA.4976@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> This is what I don't understand... you've called Windows Live Mail Desktop
> a "replacement" to Windows Mail. And this is a view shared by many.
>
> So, why doesn't Microsoft just ship Windows Live Mail Desktop Beta with
> Windows Vista, instead of Windows Mail?
>
> Windows Live Mail Desktop Beta would likely have a much larger user base
> (compared to Windows Mail) by the time Windows Vista is RTM.
>
> Cheers,
> Ramin
>
> "DGuess" <majik@mindspring.oops> wrote in message
> news:0191E943-217A-468B-B915-9FB85F771D67@microsoft.com...
>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:eXTr$54UGHA.5364@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> Well, it was answered in the newsgroup chat, because things going on
>>> between the Hotmail and Outlook Express team support for Hotmail and
>>> Windows Live Mail accounts has been discontinued.
>>> --
>>
>>
>> That's been a known issue for a long time. I've known it for a year. :-)
>>
>> The replacement for it, Windows Live Mail Desktop beta will support it,
>> pop and imap accounts as well as RSS feeds and retain newsgroup support.
>> http://spaces.msn.com/MoreThanMail shows a list of items it supports.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Buenas noches: *Steve Cochran* escribió:

> Durn insert bug is still there.

Do you mean this one here, Steve, or is there another?

https://connect.microsoft.com/feedb...FeedbackID=9214

Saludos
Roland
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Steve, have you forgotten MSN & Hotmail subscribers who are paying for
e-mail without ads?

I am an MSN subscriber and I don't see any ads on my @msn.com or
@hotmail.com accounts (and MSN Spaces is also ad-free for MSN subscribers).
So, this has nothing to do with ads.

Windows Vista's "basic mail program" could have had Hotmail support either
installable/uninstallable as a Windows Component (via Control Panel - Add or
Remove Programs) and HTTP/WebDAV functionality could be enabled/disabled by
the Administrator/Group Policy.

Microsoft releasing two e-mail programs (which sound confusingly similar)
that are essentially doing the same thing is definitely a mistake in my
opinion.

Cheers,
Ramin

"Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
news:4F643C16-29B6-4A6F-9A88-26BF78ABE567@microsoft.com...
> There needs to be a basic mail program that is installed with the OS.
>
> I don't particularly want Hotmail or advertisements filling my computer up
> with trash. I don't use hotmail and don't like ads, so I wouldn't use the
> WLMD much at all. If you like ads, then you should love WLMD.
>
> Its NOT a replacement for Windows Mail or OE, its a separate mail entity
> that has much of the same functionality that will be in Vista Windows
> Mail.
>
> steve
>
> Durn insert bug is still there.
>
> "Ramin" <ramin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OV6Sc7iVGHA.4976@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> This is what I don't understand... you've called Windows Live Mail
>> Desktop a "replacement" to Windows Mail. And this is a view shared by
>> many.
>>
>> So, why doesn't Microsoft just ship Windows Live Mail Desktop Beta with
>> Windows Vista, instead of Windows Mail?
>>
>> Windows Live Mail Desktop Beta would likely have a much larger user base
>> (compared to Windows Mail) by the time Windows Vista is RTM.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ramin
>>
>> "DGuess" <majik@mindspring.oops> wrote in message
>> news:0191E943-217A-468B-B915-9FB85F771D67@microsoft.com...
>>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eXTr$54UGHA.5364@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>> Well, it was answered in the newsgroup chat, because things going on
>>>> between the Hotmail and Outlook Express team support for Hotmail and
>>>> Windows Live Mail accounts has been discontinued.
>>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> That's been a known issue for a long time. I've known it for a year. :-)
>>>
>>> The replacement for it, Windows Live Mail Desktop beta will support it,
>>> pop and imap accounts as well as RSS feeds and retain newsgroup support.
>>> http://spaces.msn.com/MoreThanMail shows a list of items it supports.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Ramin wrote:
> Microsoft releasing two e-mail programs (which sound confusingly similar)
> that are essentially doing the same thing is definitely a mistake in my
> opinion.

Windows Mail is an email application specific to Windows Vista.

Windows Live Mail is next-generation Hotmail (webpage access).

Windows Live Mail Desktop is a downloadable Mail Client which will be
usuable in WinXP, Win2K, Win2K03, and Vista. You might consider it OE7
downloadable.

Yes, the names are /very/ confusing.
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