Windows Mail Shortcut gone from start menu

Why would the Windows Mail shortcut leave my start menu after installing
Office 2007 on Vista 5342?

Because Outlook takes over?
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Pierre Szwarc
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"William [MVP]" <william@spamsux.lefkovics.net> a écrit dans le message de
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| Why would the Windows Mail shortcut leave my start menu after installing
| Office 2007 on Vista 5342?
|

<sarcasm> Ya, I especially like how it handles newgroups. </sarcasm>

I understand Outlook assuming the 'default email client' role, but
eliminating the Windows Mail shortcut?

Unless I am missing something...

"Pierre Szwarc" <pierre_szwarc@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OTgn0SwUGHA.1688@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Because Outlook takes over?
> --
> Pierre Szwarc
> Paris, France
> PGP key ID 0x75B5779B
> ------------------------------------------------
> Multitasking: Reading in the bathroom !
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> "William [MVP]" <william@spamsux.lefkovics.net> a écrit dans le message de
> news: eyjQp5vUGHA.2704@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> | Why would the Windows Mail shortcut leave my start menu after installing
> | Office 2007 on Vista 5342?
> |

Nope, that's basically it )

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--- Original message follows ---
"William [MVP]" <william@spamsux.lefkovics.net> wrote in message
news:OXIU91wUGHA.2156@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> <sarcasm> Ya, I especially like how it handles newgroups. </sarcasm>
>
> I understand Outlook assuming the 'default email client' role, but
> eliminating the Windows Mail shortcut?
>
> Unless I am missing something...
>
> "Pierre Szwarc" <pierre_szwarc@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OTgn0SwUGHA.1688@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> Because Outlook takes over?
>> --
>> Pierre Szwarc
>> Paris, France
>> PGP key ID 0x75B5779B
>> ------------------------------------------------
>> Multitasking: Reading in the bathroom !
>> ------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "William [MVP]" <william@spamsux.lefkovics.net> a écrit dans le message
>> de
>> news: eyjQp5vUGHA.2704@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> | Why would the Windows Mail shortcut leave my start menu after
>> installing
>> | Office 2007 on Vista 5342?
>> |
>

I do have the Windows Mail system link on the top of the Start Menu. But, I
can't find any Windows Mail shortcut in the Start Menu >All Programs
hierarchy. It is also missing from the Quick Launch group. I haven't
installed Office yet. So, it didn't have anything to do with it.

I wanted to check to see if the /newsonly switch still worked.

RandyO
[JAG]


"William [MVP]" <william@spamsux.lefkovics.net> wrote in message
news:OXIU91wUGHA.2156@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> <sarcasm> Ya, I especially like how it handles newgroups. </sarcasm>
>
> I understand Outlook assuming the 'default email client' role, but
> eliminating the Windows Mail shortcut?
>
> Unless I am missing something...
>
> "Pierre Szwarc" <pierre_szwarc@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OTgn0SwUGHA.1688@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> Because Outlook takes over?
>> --
>> Pierre Szwarc
>> Paris, France
>> PGP key ID 0x75B5779B
>> ------------------------------------------------
>> Multitasking: Reading in the bathroom !
>> ------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "William [MVP]" <william@spamsux.lefkovics.net> a écrit dans le message
>> de
>> news: eyjQp5vUGHA.2704@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> | Why would the Windows Mail shortcut leave my start menu after
>> installing
>> | Office 2007 on Vista 5342?
>> |
>

Office takes over everything, especially when it updates (see
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#13)

With respect to the WinMail shortcut, there are two commands one can use to
toggle on and off the shortcut:

shmgrate.exe OCInstallHideOE

shmgrate.exe OCInstallShowOE

You can guess which command does which. <VBG>

That should turn on and off the shortcut.

If Outlook gets installed, then you can do this to fix what Outlook did and
if that doesn't work see the link above.

shmgrate.exe OCInstallReinstallOE

or

shmgrate.exe OCInstallUserConfigOE

I'm not sure the difference between those two.

steve




"Randy Byrne [JAG]" <no_email@msn.com> wrote in message
news786026F-255C-4E40-92B2-D87A65718A05@microsoft.com...
>I do have the Windows Mail system link on the top of the Start Menu. But, I
>can't find any Windows Mail shortcut in the Start Menu >All Programs
>hierarchy. It is also missing from the Quick Launch group. I haven't
>installed Office yet. So, it didn't have anything to do with it.
>
> I wanted to check to see if the /newsonly switch still worked.
>
> RandyO
> [JAG]
>
>
> "William [MVP]" <william@spamsux.lefkovics.net> wrote in message
> news:OXIU91wUGHA.2156@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> <sarcasm> Ya, I especially like how it handles newgroups. </sarcasm>
>>
>> I understand Outlook assuming the 'default email client' role, but
>> eliminating the Windows Mail shortcut?
>>
>> Unless I am missing something...
>>
>> "Pierre Szwarc" <pierre_szwarc@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OTgn0SwUGHA.1688@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>> Because Outlook takes over?
>>> --
>>> Pierre Szwarc
>>> Paris, France
>>> PGP key ID 0x75B5779B
>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>> Multitasking: Reading in the bathroom !
>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> "William [MVP]" <william@spamsux.lefkovics.net> a écrit dans le message
>>> de
>>> news: eyjQp5vUGHA.2704@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> | Why would the Windows Mail shortcut leave my start menu after
>>> installing
>>> | Office 2007 on Vista 5342?
>>> |
>>
>

"William [MVP]" <william@spamsux.lefkovics.net> wrote in message
news:eyjQp5vUGHA.2704@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Why would the Windows Mail shortcut leave my start menu after installing
> Office 2007 on Vista 5342?
>


It's because the Office Team seems to think that once Outlook is installed,
Outlook must be wanted to be used as the default email program.

It's been doing it this way forever it seems. Every update for Office
removes Outlook Express as the default email program. Royal PITA to have to
change it because they think they know what I want.

Actually, I think this is God's way of letting an MVP know how we "know
nothings" feel at times!!! ;-)


"William [MVP]" <william@spamsux.lefkovics.net> wrote in message
news:OXIU91wUGHA.2156@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> <sarcasm> Ya, I especially like how it handles newgroups. </sarcasm>
>
> I understand Outlook assuming the 'default email client' role, but
> eliminating the Windows Mail shortcut?
>
> Unless I am missing something...
>
> "Pierre Szwarc" <pierre_szwarc@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OTgn0SwUGHA.1688@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> Because Outlook takes over?
>> --
>> Pierre Szwarc
>> Paris, France
>> PGP key ID 0x75B5779B
>> ------------------------------------------------
>> Multitasking: Reading in the bathroom !
>> ------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "William [MVP]" <william@spamsux.lefkovics.net> a écrit dans le message
>> de
>> news: eyjQp5vUGHA.2704@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> | Why would the Windows Mail shortcut leave my start menu after
>> installing
>> | Office 2007 on Vista 5342?
>> |
>