Windows Mail UI - Consistency with rest of Vista

Better get WM the File Explorer toolbars at least, if not a big navigation
bar too like WMP, Callendar, etc. do

Suggestion made )

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"Adahn" <administrator@localhost> wrote in message
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> Better get WM the File Explorer toolbars at least, if not a big navigation
> bar too like WMP, Callendar, etc. do

I don't want mail looking like Windows Media Player 11 or Photo Gallery or
Calendar. Its just not the right application for that layout and
significance would not be there. I notice you just suggested consistency,
but could you give me additional reasons why this layout would be
advantageous to Windows Mail, how it would provide better navigation or make
the Windows Mail experience better for the end user?
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"Adahn" <administrator@localhost> wrote in message
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> Better get WM the File Explorer toolbars at least, if not a big navigation
> bar too like WMP, Callendar, etc. do

Buenas noches: *Andre Da Costa [Extended64]* escribió:

>I don't want mail looking like Windows Media Player 11 or Photo Gallery or
> Calendar. Its just not the right application for that layout and
> significance would not be there. I notice you just suggested consistency,
> but could you give me additional reasons why this layout would be
> advantageous to Windows Mail, how it would provide better navigation or make
> the Windows Mail experience better for the end user?

At least I'd love buttons for back and forth, so that I can switch to
another folder and use the back button to return to the previous one.
Don't know if such are in Calendar, though. ;-)

Saludos
Roland
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I think it would be quite cool actually )

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"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I don't want mail looking like Windows Media Player 11 or Photo Gallery or
>Calendar. Its just not the right application for that layout and
>significance would not be there. I notice you just suggested consistency,
>but could you give me additional reasons why this layout would be
>advantageous to Windows Mail, how it would provide better navigation or
>make the Windows Mail experience better for the end user?
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> "Adahn" <administrator@localhost> wrote in message
> news:C57EB74D-0D1B-4EAA-923B-6E2E51E262D7@microsoft.com...
>> Better get WM the File Explorer toolbars at least, if not a big
>> navigation bar too like WMP, Callendar, etc. do
>
>

It would be quite cool, but what would be the reason behind quite cool, what
productive functionality is it providing? Developers don't create these
things at the snap of a finger. It takes a good amount of thought process,
engineering and testing before you can at least bring real code into play.
At least apply some of that thought process to your suggestion before you
hand it to them.
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"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
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>I think it would be quite cool actually )
>
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> --- Original message follows ---
> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OY4ZvewQGHA.4960@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>I don't want mail looking like Windows Media Player 11 or Photo Gallery or
>>Calendar. Its just not the right application for that layout and
>>significance would not be there. I notice you just suggested consistency,
>>but could you give me additional reasons why this layout would be
>>advantageous to Windows Mail, how it would provide better navigation or
>>make the Windows Mail experience better for the end user?
>> --
>> --
>> Andre
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>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
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>> "Adahn" <administrator@localhost> wrote in message
>> news:C57EB74D-0D1B-4EAA-923B-6E2E51E262D7@microsoft.com...
>>> Better get WM the File Explorer toolbars at least, if not a big
>>> navigation bar too like WMP, Callendar, etc. do
>>
>>
>
>

No they are not, but they are in Windows Media Player. For persons who have
multiple inboxes, subscribe to numerous newsgroups, WMPs navigation still
would not functional in Windows Mail.
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"Roland Bierlein" <robier@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Buenas noches: *Andre Da Costa [Extended64]* escribió:
>
>>I don't want mail looking like Windows Media Player 11 or Photo Gallery or
>> Calendar. Its just not the right application for that layout and
>> significance would not be there. I notice you just suggested consistency,
>> but could you give me additional reasons why this layout would be
>> advantageous to Windows Mail, how it would provide better navigation or
>> make
>> the Windows Mail experience better for the end user?
>
> At least I'd love buttons for back and forth, so that I can switch to
> another folder and use the back button to return to the previous one.
> Don't know if such are in Calendar, though. ;-)
>
> Saludos
> Roland
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> Am schönsten ist sie ungeschminkt." (O. Kokoschka)

> It would be quite cool, but what would be the reason behind quite cool,
> what productive functionality is it providing?

Can anyone give a satisfactory answer to that regarding ANY major new UI
feature Vista has brought so far ?

> Developers don't create these things at the snap of a finger.

They do at the thud of an Apple falling to the ground though.

> It takes a good amount of thought process,

which is usually filled with voices chanting Mac OS ~ Mac OS ~ Make an OS
like MAC OS!

> engineering and testing before you can at least bring real code into play.

after scraping at least 50% of the initial design goals.

> At least apply some of that thought process to your suggestion before you
> hand it to them.

We would love to, if it did not feel futile after all too many put-offs
containing phrases like "feature complete" and "final, expected behavior."


These succinct snips are just meant to be heads-ups for pointing that
thought process of theirs in the general direction.. no way are we going to
the effort of drawing elaborate drafts if they won't be taken into much
consideration.

but coming to the issue at hand, surely at least the toolbars in Windows
Mail could do with a makeover like those in Windows Explorer? along with a
breadcrumb Address Bar.

Buenos días: *Adahn* escribió:

>> It would be quite cool, but what would be the reason behind quite cool,
>> what productive functionality is it providing?

> Can anyone give a satisfactory answer to that regarding ANY major new UI
> feature Vista has brought so far ?

Sure: they provided /negative/ productive functionality *a lot*. <eg&d>

Saludos
Roland
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Breadcrumb toolbar? You are just saying things that you think will look good
but you are not providing any reasoning behind it.
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"Adahn" <administrator@localhost> wrote in message
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>> It would be quite cool, but what would be the reason behind quite cool,
>> what productive functionality is it providing?
>
> Can anyone give a satisfactory answer to that regarding ANY major new UI
> feature Vista has brought so far ?
>
>> Developers don't create these things at the snap of a finger.
>
> They do at the thud of an Apple falling to the ground though.
>
>> It takes a good amount of thought process,
>
> which is usually filled with voices chanting Mac OS ~ Mac OS ~ Make an OS
> like MAC OS!
>
>> engineering and testing before you can at least bring real code into
>> play.
>
> after scraping at least 50% of the initial design goals.
>
>> At least apply some of that thought process to your suggestion before you
>> hand it to them.
>
> We would love to, if it did not feel futile after all too many put-offs
> containing phrases like "feature complete" and "final, expected behavior."
>
>
> These succinct snips are just meant to be heads-ups for pointing that
> thought process of theirs in the general direction.. no way are we going
> to the effort of drawing elaborate drafts if they won't be taken into much
> consideration.
>
> but coming to the issue at hand, surely at least the toolbars in Windows
> Mail could do with a makeover like those in Windows Explorer? along with a
> breadcrumb Address Bar.