Re: What Vista Should Do

I like some of Nicholas's ideas, especially the progress bar one. I think
the progress bar should be small (As in no longer than 32 pixels) and be
just below the cursor.
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:e3atAlfPGHA.3924@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> - Auto-defrag in the background (not running the program)
> This would be slow even on the fastest of computers. This is why programs
> such as OneCare Live have it scheduled for when you're not using the
> computer.
>
>> - SuperFetch to SD, CompactFlash, etc, not just USB.
> Could do, but file systems could influence this not happening. They may
> simply not be compatible.
>
>> - Get rid of the Busy cursors if you want people to feel Vista is
>> responsive (there's a psychology problem with the busy cursor believe it
>> or not...)
> The mouse pointers are one thing which will barely change. The busy cursor
> icon is important, however if a program is non-responsive, Task Manager
> still opens and you can normally get the normal pointer when you hover
> over
> the X in the corner.
>
>> - Use a progress bar to show how long it will take to open a program
>> instead of a busy cursor which you never know will end.
> Now where would this actually go? Too much hassle, and this wouldn't be
> pheasable.
>
>> - Auto-Disk Cleanup in the background (not running the program)
> Again, users need to know what's going on. This could be seen as
> intrusive.
>
>> - Registry Cleaner (I think OneCare Live does that right?)
> OneCare doesn't have one, however Vista will have set in the Control
> Panels
> for more options such as this.
>
>> - *CLEAN* uninstalls with Windows Installer, not leaving junk in the
>> Program Files, system32, Local Settings, Application Data, Registry, etc
> It's reliant on the architecture of the installer file itself. Windows
> Installer does what it can, however saves some settings etc.
>
>> That's just insane. Why can't they just make it into one Windows OneCare
>> (Not Live) and let the user click once and leave it do all the hard and
>> dirty work. If MS wants money that's fine, just sell subscriptions for
>> Windows OneCare *Live* that will *add* anti-virus and reg-cleaner. But
>> for
>> the rest of us, we want INTEGRATION.
> Yeh, integration can be great, however what if you just want one of them
> doing?
>
> --
> Zack Whittaker
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> --- Original message follows ---
> <Nicholas> wrote in message news:OQUt4abPGHA.1460@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Performance:
>>
>> - Auto-defrag in the background (not running the program)
>> - SuperFetch to SD, CompactFlash, etc, not just USB.
>> - Get rid of the Busy cursors if you want people to feel Vista is
>> responsive (there's a psychology problem with the busy cursor believe it
>> or not...)
>> - Use a progress bar to show how long it will take to open a program
>> instead of a busy cursor which you never know will end.
>>
>> Maintanence:
>>
>> - Auto-Disk Cleanup in the background (not running the program)
>> - Registry Cleaner (I think OneCare Live does that right?)
>> - *CLEAN* uninstalls with Windows Installer, not leaving junk in the
>> Program Files, system32, Local Settings, Application Data, Registry, etc
>>
>> Finally:
>>
>> Integrate all the utilities into one, there's too many for a normal
>> person
>> to remember what and where they are. Look at the reality situation:
>>
>> Check Disk
>> Defragmenter
>> Disk Cleanup
>> Backup
>> System Restore
>> Windows Defender
>>
>> That's just insane. Why can't they just make it into one Windows OneCare
>> (Not Live) and let the user click once and leave it do all the hard and
>> dirty work. If MS wants money that's fine, just sell subscriptions for
>> Windows OneCare *Live* that will *add* anti-virus and reg-cleaner. But
>> for
>> the rest of us, we want INTEGRATION.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>
>
>

RE: Busy Cursor

A lot of people do associate it with it being slow. If it's available to
click somewhere and it work, lose the busy cursor. With dual core CPU's, I
see this as being less of an issue.

I see the majority of Vista being deployed in new PC's (which by next year
should be majority dual core), so the issues shouldn't be as great then.
With dual core CPU's and higher RAM, multitasking will be better, and the
busy cursor will be less seen. But when it is, it is bothersome....

Dustin Harper


"Travis King" <Anonymous@none.com> wrote in message
news:OTMjniaXGHA.3972@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I like some of Nicholas's ideas, especially the progress bar one. I think
>the progress bar should be small (As in no longer than 32 pixels) and be
>just below the cursor.
> "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:e3atAlfPGHA.3924@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> - Auto-defrag in the background (not running the program)
>> This would be slow even on the fastest of computers. This is why programs
>> such as OneCare Live have it scheduled for when you're not using the
>> computer.
>>
>>> - SuperFetch to SD, CompactFlash, etc, not just USB.
>> Could do, but file systems could influence this not happening. They may
>> simply not be compatible.
>>
>>> - Get rid of the Busy cursors if you want people to feel Vista is
>>> responsive (there's a psychology problem with the busy cursor believe it
>>> or not...)
>> The mouse pointers are one thing which will barely change. The busy
>> cursor
>> icon is important, however if a program is non-responsive, Task Manager
>> still opens and you can normally get the normal pointer when you hover
>> over
>> the X in the corner.
>>
>>> - Use a progress bar to show how long it will take to open a program
>>> instead of a busy cursor which you never know will end.
>> Now where would this actually go? Too much hassle, and this wouldn't be
>> pheasable.
>>
>>> - Auto-Disk Cleanup in the background (not running the program)
>> Again, users need to know what's going on. This could be seen as
>> intrusive.
>>
>>> - Registry Cleaner (I think OneCare Live does that right?)
>> OneCare doesn't have one, however Vista will have set in the Control
>> Panels
>> for more options such as this.
>>
>>> - *CLEAN* uninstalls with Windows Installer, not leaving junk in the
>>> Program Files, system32, Local Settings, Application Data, Registry, etc
>> It's reliant on the architecture of the installer file itself. Windows
>> Installer does what it can, however saves some settings etc.
>>
>>> That's just insane. Why can't they just make it into one Windows OneCare
>>> (Not Live) and let the user click once and leave it do all the hard and
>>> dirty work. If MS wants money that's fine, just sell subscriptions for
>>> Windows OneCare *Live* that will *add* anti-virus and reg-cleaner. But
>>> for
>>> the rest of us, we want INTEGRATION.
>> Yeh, integration can be great, however what if you just want one of them
>> doing?
>>
>> --
>> Zack Whittaker
>> Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor)
>> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
>> » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net
>> » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum
>> » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase
>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
>> not
>> of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
>>
>>
>> --- Original message follows ---
>> <Nicholas> wrote in message news:OQUt4abPGHA.1460@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>> Performance:
>>>
>>> - Auto-defrag in the background (not running the program)
>>> - SuperFetch to SD, CompactFlash, etc, not just USB.
>>> - Get rid of the Busy cursors if you want people to feel Vista is
>>> responsive (there's a psychology problem with the busy cursor believe it
>>> or not...)
>>> - Use a progress bar to show how long it will take to open a program
>>> instead of a busy cursor which you never know will end.
>>>
>>> Maintanence:
>>>
>>> - Auto-Disk Cleanup in the background (not running the program)
>>> - Registry Cleaner (I think OneCare Live does that right?)
>>> - *CLEAN* uninstalls with Windows Installer, not leaving junk in the
>>> Program Files, system32, Local Settings, Application Data, Registry, etc
>>>
>>> Finally:
>>>
>>> Integrate all the utilities into one, there's too many for a normal
>>> person
>>> to remember what and where they are. Look at the reality situation:
>>>
>>> Check Disk
>>> Defragmenter
>>> Disk Cleanup
>>> Backup
>>> System Restore
>>> Windows Defender
>>>
>>> That's just insane. Why can't they just make it into one Windows OneCare
>>> (Not Live) and let the user click once and leave it do all the hard and
>>> dirty work. If MS wants money that's fine, just sell subscriptions for
>>> Windows OneCare *Live* that will *add* anti-virus and reg-cleaner. But
>>> for
>>> the rest of us, we want INTEGRATION.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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