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Old 07-03-2006, 06:43 AM   #1
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Take the fastest machine money can buy,
a file larger than a couple megabytes,
and the latest Notepad still craps out and seizes up.



Please show me someone from Microsoft to smack for this.
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Old 07-03-2006, 03:28 PM   #2
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It's the way that Notepad is structured - remember that a 200 word text file
will be 200 bytes - 1024 word text file will be 1MB. It's because it has to
read every single character, unlike Wordpad does )

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"Adahn" <administrator@localhost> wrote in message
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> Take the fastest machine money can buy,
> a file larger than a couple megabytes,
> and the latest Notepad still craps out and seizes up.
>
>
>
> Please show me someone from Microsoft to smack for this.



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Old 08-03-2006, 06:51 AM   #3
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The operation of copying a file has to read every single byte as well, as
still that's quicker than it takes Notepad.. don't tell me they're all so
caught up in monkeying Mac OSX that they can't figure out how to improve the
performance and responsiveness of the most basic of existing tools?? sheesh

"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> It's the way that Notepad is structured - remember that a 200 word text
> file will be 200 bytes - 1024 word text file will be 1MB. It's because it
> has to read every single character, unlike Wordpad does )
>

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Old 08-03-2006, 06:51 AM   #4
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Default Re: Notepad - Still too slow on loading large files

The operation of copying a file has to read every single byte as well, as
still that's quicker than it takes Notepad.. don't tell me they're all so
caught up in monkeying Mac OSX that they can't figure out how to improve the
performance and responsiveness of the most basic of existing tools?? sheesh

"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:eho20QgQGHA.1676@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> It's the way that Notepad is structured - remember that a 200 word text
> file will be 200 bytes - 1024 word text file will be 1MB. It's because it
> has to read every single character, unlike Wordpad does )
>

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Old 08-03-2006, 10:02 AM   #5
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Basically... yeh. But trust me, there's no way you can improve Notepad
anymore - the only reason it's there now is because they don't want to get
rid of it (loyalty) and the fact that people still need something as simple
as it gets to edit code - C# bits and bobs, HTML, Jscript etc.

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--- Original message follows ---
"Adahn" <administrator@localhost> wrote in message
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> The operation of copying a file has to read every single byte as well, as
> still that's quicker than it takes Notepad.. don't tell me they're all so
> caught up in monkeying Mac OSX that they can't figure out how to improve
> the performance and responsiveness of the most basic of existing tools??
> sheesh
>
> "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:eho20QgQGHA.1676@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> It's the way that Notepad is structured - remember that a 200 word text
>> file will be 200 bytes - 1024 word text file will be 1MB. It's because it
>> has to read every single character, unlike Wordpad does )
>>



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Old 08-03-2006, 03:01 PM   #6
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"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote

> Basically... yeh. But trust me, there's no way you can improve Notepad
> anymore -


Agreed. Microsoft cannot (=is not able to) improve Notepad. They had 15
years of trials.
ALL other editors are better.

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Old 08-03-2006, 03:09 PM   #7
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> Agreed. Microsoft cannot (=is not able to) improve Notepad. They had 15 years of
> trials.
> ALL other editors are better.


You never used EDLIN?

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Old 08-03-2006, 08:09 PM   #8
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> C# bits and bobs, HTML, Jscript etc.

...configuration files, XML, registry exports, scripts, e-books, logs, chat
transcripts...

All we're asking is that it not freeze up outright on loading large files -
start displaying the text right away, and allow us to select it but keep it
read-only while a separate thread loads in rest of the file.

Surely it seems absurd to leave the possibility of something this basic
freezing up on the latest dual-core multiprocessor 1+ GB RAM setup?

> the only reason it's there now is because they don't want to get rid of it
> (loyalty)


...didn't know loyalty was the only reason for an OS to have the ability to
edit text files.. and how many people have anything other than Notepad
associated with .txt files?

Fewer than the number of people who'll be needing DVD Maker, that's for
sure.

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Old 12-03-2006, 04:15 AM   #9
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"..didn't know loyalty was the only reason for an OS to have the ability
to
edit text files.. and how many people have anything other than Notepad
associated with .txt files?

Fewer than the number of people who'll be needing DVD Maker, that's for
sure. "

lol. maybe MS should scrap Notepad for Office Word 2007. Another program
duplication!

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Old 11-04-2006, 03:17 PM   #10
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"Adahn" <administrator@localhost> wrote in message
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> Take the fastest machine money can buy,
> a file larger than a couple megabytes,
> and the latest Notepad still craps out and seizes up.


Notepad was never intended to open large files.

If you want a decent text editor, there are dozens available. My favourite
is EmEditor.

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