Installation on SCSI System impossible?

Hi, all

I am not able to make a fresh Installation of build 5308 on an SCSI-system
with an Adaptec AHA2940U2W. No devices found!!

Is this a driver problem? Will a suited driver be supplied in final Vista
release? On Adaptec Website I could not find anything about this issue.

So how to proceed?

I do not understand this problem, because on virtual maschines, there seems
not to be a problem using SCSI Controllers.

Thank you for your help,

Peter

Sounds like a driver compatibility with Vista. Have you contacted Adaptec to
find out about their Vista strategy if they plan on at least releasing beta
drivers for existing devices or at least the final build of Windows Vista?
Also find out if they are working with Microsoft on hardware detection and
if this will be available in a future build of Windows Vista.
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"Peter Danner" <nospam_dpo@gmx.net> wrote in message
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> Hi, all
>
> I am not able to make a fresh Installation of build 5308 on an SCSI-system
> with an Adaptec AHA2940U2W. No devices found!!
>
> Is this a driver problem? Will a suited driver be supplied in final Vista
> release? On Adaptec Website I could not find anything about this issue.
>
> So how to proceed?
>
> I do not understand this problem, because on virtual maschines, there
> seems not to be a problem using SCSI Controllers.
>
> Thank you for your help,
>
> Peter

LOL Andre, you know what they'll end up saying... "We cannot provide
information about software before the release date"... seems to be the
number 1 line from manufacturers at the moment ;o)

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--- Original message follows ---
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sounds like a driver compatibility with Vista. Have you contacted Adaptec
> to find out about their Vista strategy if they plan on at least releasing
> beta drivers for existing devices or at least the final build of Windows
> Vista? Also find out if they are working with Microsoft on hardware
> detection and if this will be available in a future build of Windows
> Vista.
> --
> Andre
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>
> "Peter Danner" <nospam_dpo@gmx.net> wrote in message
> news:44131eda$0$28520$3b214f66@aconews.univie.ac.at...
>> Hi, all
>>
>> I am not able to make a fresh Installation of build 5308 on an
>> SCSI-system with an Adaptec AHA2940U2W. No devices found!!
>>
>> Is this a driver problem? Will a suited driver be supplied in final Vista
>> release? On Adaptec Website I could not find anything about this issue.
>>
>> So how to proceed?
>>
>> I do not understand this problem, because on virtual maschines, there
>> seems not to be a problem using SCSI Controllers.
>>
>> Thank you for your help,
>>
>> Peter
>
>

Perhaps, but customers asking may get them working on it.
And since the hardware manufacturers are responsible for drivers, contacting
them is the correct start.

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"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:u$hIqoWRGHA.5924@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> LOL Andre, you know what they'll end up saying... "We cannot provide
> information about software before the release date"... seems to be the
> number 1 line from manufacturers at the moment ;o)
>
> --
> Zack Whittaker
> Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor)
> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
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> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
> not
> of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
>
>
> --- Original message follows ---
> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uhsR$vVRGHA.4608@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Sounds like a driver compatibility with Vista. Have you contacted Adaptec
>> to find out about their Vista strategy if they plan on at least releasing
>> beta drivers for existing devices or at least the final build of Windows
>> Vista? Also find out if they are working with Microsoft on hardware
>> detection and if this will be available in a future build of Windows
>> Vista.
>> --
>> Andre
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Manufacturers should by default be keeping up with the latest stuff...
otherwise they lose profits don't they.

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--- Original message follows ---
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
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> Perhaps, but customers asking may get them working on it.
> And since the hardware manufacturers are responsible for drivers,
> contacting them is the correct start.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:u$hIqoWRGHA.5924@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> LOL Andre, you know what they'll end up saying... "We cannot provide
>> information about software before the release date"... seems to be the
>> number 1 line from manufacturers at the moment ;o)
>>
>> --
>> Zack Whittaker
>> Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor)
>> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
>> » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net
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>> » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase
>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
>> not
>> of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
>>
>>
>> --- Original message follows ---
>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uhsR$vVRGHA.4608@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> Sounds like a driver compatibility with Vista. Have you contacted
>>> Adaptec to find out about their Vista strategy if they plan on at least
>>> releasing beta drivers for existing devices or at least the final build
>>> of Windows Vista? Also find out if they are working with Microsoft on
>>> hardware detection and if this will be available in a future build of
>>> Windows Vista.
>>> --
>>> Andre
>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
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>
>

Zack;
Yes, they need to keep up.
But don't confuse keeping up with always issuing new drivers when a new OS
is released.
They need to decide which products to dedicate resources.
The older a product the less chance an update will make them $.
More resources will be spent on newer products and those in development.
Since this is usually capitalism, often with older hardware there is little
reason to make it work with a newer OS.

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"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Manufacturers should by default be keeping up with the latest stuff...
> otherwise they lose profits don't they.
>
> --
> Zack Whittaker
> Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor)
> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
> » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net
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> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
> not
> of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
>
>
> --- Original message follows ---
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23xUsS%23WRGHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Perhaps, but customers asking may get them working on it.
>> And since the hardware manufacturers are responsible for drivers,
>> contacting them is the correct start.
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>> http://www.dts-l.org
>>
>>
>> "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:u$hIqoWRGHA.5924@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> LOL Andre, you know what they'll end up saying... "We cannot provide
>>> information about software before the release date"... seems to be the
>>> number 1 line from manufacturers at the moment ;o)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Zack Whittaker
>>> Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor)
>>> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
>>> » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net
>>> » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum
>>> » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase
>>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
>>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
>>> not
>>> of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Original message follows ---
>>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uhsR$vVRGHA.4608@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>> Sounds like a driver compatibility with Vista. Have you contacted
>>>> Adaptec to find out about their Vista strategy if they plan on at least
>>>> releasing beta drivers for existing devices or at least the final build
>>>> of Windows Vista? Also find out if they are working with Microsoft on
>>>> hardware detection and if this will be available in a future build of
>>>> Windows Vista.
>>>> --
>>>> Andre
>>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>> FAQ for MS AntiSpy
>>>> http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>>
>>
>
>

Sometimes I get the feeling that there is a conspiracy amongst manufacturers
to not provide drivers for older devices thereby forcing people to go out
and buy the latest and greatest device and all in the name of profit.....

Then again, I do get rather annoyed with the expectation that people should
go out and buy new products to replace old ones that are working perfectly.
Such a waste of resources really. Welcome to the throw-away society.

Correct. But of course, you have to take into account that they love to put
end of life support on such products just to get existing users to upgrade
to the latest.
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"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
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> Perhaps, but customers asking may get them working on it.
> And since the hardware manufacturers are responsible for drivers,
> contacting them is the correct start.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:u$hIqoWRGHA.5924@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> LOL Andre, you know what they'll end up saying... "We cannot provide
>> information about software before the release date"... seems to be the
>> number 1 line from manufacturers at the moment ;o)
>>
>> --
>> Zack Whittaker
>> Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor)
>> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
>> » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net
>> » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum
>> » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase
>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
>> not
>> of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
>>
>>
>> --- Original message follows ---
>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uhsR$vVRGHA.4608@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> Sounds like a driver compatibility with Vista. Have you contacted
>>> Adaptec to find out about their Vista strategy if they plan on at least
>>> releasing beta drivers for existing devices or at least the final build
>>> of Windows Vista? Also find out if they are working with Microsoft on
>>> hardware detection and if this will be available in a future build of
>>> Windows Vista.
>>> --
>>> Andre
>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>> FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>
>

There does not have to be a need to replace hardware.
It is not so much the hardware is old, it is more the need to upgrade the
OS.
And with that, many don't need to, they just want to.
Before upgrading anything, especially an OS, people need to thoroughly
examine the consequences.
For the most part, they can avoid problems with a little patience.

Very few would dispute there is a time when it is no longer practical to
support older hardware and software. It is the time frame that is the
issue. Obsolescence is largely a myth created not by the manufacturers but
by the buyers demanding the newest...but not in everything thus forcing the
change upon themselves. Many of those that complain about hardware
incompatible with a new OS often have no need to upgrade other than their
need to have the latest OS.

--
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http://www.dts-l.org


"Jane Colman" <jellybean@xjgarage.org> wrote in message
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> Sometimes I get the feeling that there is a conspiracy amongst
> manufacturers to not provide drivers for older devices thereby forcing
> people to go out and buy the latest and greatest device and all in the
> name of profit.....
>
> Then again, I do get rather annoyed with the expectation that people
> should go out and buy new products to replace old ones that are working
> perfectly. Such a waste of resources really. Welcome to the throw-away
> society.
>

Peter Danner a écrit :
> Hi, all
>
> I am not able to make a fresh Installation of build 5308 on an SCSI-system
> with an Adaptec AHA2940U2W. No devices found!!
>
> Is this a driver problem? Will a suited driver be supplied in final Vista
> release? On Adaptec Website I could not find anything about this issue.
>
> So how to proceed?
>
> I do not understand this problem, because on virtual maschines, there seems
> not to be a problem using SCSI Controllers.
>
> Thank you for your help,
>
> Peter

Did you try this:
when you are in the screen where you select the hard disk where you
want to install Vista, "Load driver", and give your WinXP or Win2003
(better) driver for your card, then click Refresh?
If it doesn't work, press Shift-F10, it will open a command-line box,
go where you have your win2003 driver for your scsi card, then type
"drvload yourdriver.inf". It should say the driver has been loaded,
then click Refresh, and your SCSI disk(s) should appear. It worked for
me for my SATA RAID controller.

Christophe