VERY Disappointed with Vista

Hi everyone,

Iā€™m not a tech or anything, Iā€™m probably pretty close to ā€œan average PC
userā€. I do the internet, email, some online groups, do some artwork and/or
photo work in Adobe Photo Shop, listen to music/watch movies, Pretty basic
stuff. The most ā€˜intenseā€™ game I do is MS Flight Sim 2000. Not exactly
high-end gaming.

My family had 3 PC networked together to share internet, a printer/scanner
and exchange files and stuff. 2 PCs ran XP Home and 1 ran XP Pro.

We decided to replace the older of the 2 XP Home PCs since it was over 10
years old. But, we had to wait for our income tax refunds to do it, and by
that time, about the only thing you could get was Vista. Vista sounded OK,
but I wasnā€™t all that interested in it. All I really wanted was a higher
performance PC, so last week we bought an HP Pavilion a1740n (2GB RAM, 1.9GHZ
Intel processor and a 320GB HD). Of course, it came with Windows Vista Home
Premium.

A new PC is supposed to do things better, faster and easier as well as doing
more things than the old PC youā€™re replacing. Unfortunately, it didnā€™t turn
out that way. With Vista, I have had nothing but annoyance and aggravation
since I got the new PC hooked up and turned on.

Iā€™m now looking at brand new PC that simply refuses to believe that itā€™s
part of a network (even tho it has to go thru another PC to connect to the
internet). Iā€™m looking at brand new PC that wonā€™t allow me to easily access
the Hotmail email accounts that weā€™ve had for years. (Iā€™m used to pushing one
button on the keyboard and having all out email accounts open up in Outlook
Express). Iā€™m looking at a new PC that SAYS how easy itā€™s Transfer Wizard is,
but then tells you that it only works for files and settings. Transferring
programs requires you to download another program, which is currently only in
the beta stage, and that is set up to do ā€œover 100 of the most popular
programsā€. Wow. Big, fat, hairy deal! I wonder how many of those programs are
one that I use?

So, I found my way in here, looking for answers. I found them, but not the
ones that I wanted to find. OK, I can PROBABLY get the network to work, if I
go thru some really complicated sounding procedures. I may or may not be able
to transfer my programs to Vista, and once there, they may or may not work
right. (3rd PlanIt, which is a model railroad planning program that I copied
to Vista with a little flash drive works just fine, except that the RR tracks
float in the air, and the ballast that are supposed to be sitting on is
missing.) And of course, weā€™ll no longer be able to do our email with one
push of a button.

With all that, Iā€™m giving serious thought to just scrapping Vista and
putting XP Home into the new PC. Iā€™ve weighed the Pros and Cons of Vista, and
come up with this:
Cons:
-MAYBE I can set up the home network, maybe not. If I can, itā€™ll take a lot
of work.
-Iā€™ll go from very convenient to VERY inconvenient use of email, unless I
want ads all over the place.
-I might easily get my stuff into Vista I may not. Programs may or may not
work (right).

Pros:
None that Iā€™ve found yet.

So, Iā€™m writing this post for 2 reasons. First, Iā€™d like to hear thoughts
from people who know Vista about whether or not I should just switch to XP
Home. Second, if the opinion is to use XP, then Iā€™ll need step-by-step
instructions for how to do it, and how to do it without loosing drivers and
applications such as LightScribe for the DVD/CD/multi thingy drive, since HP
doesnā€™t give you any disks with a new PC. Supposedly, all the apps and
drivers and such are located in the D (Recovery) drive.

So, what do you all think? Stay with Vista or scrap it and go to XP?

Thanks everyone.
Susan

your not the only one
"Winnowill" <Winnowill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm not a tech or anything, I'm probably pretty close to "an average PC
> user". I do the internet, email, some online groups, do some artwork
> and/or
> photo work in Adobe Photo Shop, listen to music/watch movies, Pretty basic
> stuff. The most 'intense' game I do is MS Flight Sim 2000. Not exactly
> high-end gaming.
>
> My family had 3 PC networked together to share internet, a printer/scanner
> and exchange files and stuff. 2 PCs ran XP Home and 1 ran XP Pro.
>
> We decided to replace the older of the 2 XP Home PCs since it was over 10
> years old. But, we had to wait for our income tax refunds to do it, and by
> that time, about the only thing you could get was Vista. Vista sounded OK,
> but I wasn't all that interested in it. All I really wanted was a higher
> performance PC, so last week we bought an HP Pavilion a1740n (2GB RAM,
> 1.9GHZ
> Intel processor and a 320GB HD). Of course, it came with Windows Vista
> Home
> Premium.
>
> A new PC is supposed to do things better, faster and easier as well as
> doing
> more things than the old PC you're replacing. Unfortunately, it didn't
> turn
> out that way. With Vista, I have had nothing but annoyance and aggravation
> since I got the new PC hooked up and turned on.
>
> I'm now looking at brand new PC that simply refuses to believe that it's
> part of a network (even tho it has to go thru another PC to connect to the
> internet). I'm looking at brand new PC that won't allow me to easily
> access
> the Hotmail email accounts that we've had for years. (I'm used to pushing
> one
> button on the keyboard and having all out email accounts open up in
> Outlook
> Express). I'm looking at a new PC that SAYS how easy it's Transfer Wizard
> is,
> but then tells you that it only works for files and settings. Transferring
> programs requires you to download another program, which is currently only
> in
> the beta stage, and that is set up to do "over 100 of the most popular
> programs". Wow. Big, fat, hairy deal! I wonder how many of those programs
> are
> one that I use?
>
> So, I found my way in here, looking for answers. I found them, but not the
> ones that I wanted to find. OK, I can PROBABLY get the network to work, if
> I
> go thru some really complicated sounding procedures. I may or may not be
> able
> to transfer my programs to Vista, and once there, they may or may not work
> right. (3rd PlanIt, which is a model railroad planning program that I
> copied
> to Vista with a little flash drive works just fine, except that the RR
> tracks
> float in the air, and the ballast that are supposed to be sitting on is
> missing.) And of course, we'll no longer be able to do our email with one
> push of a button.
>
> With all that, I'm giving serious thought to just scrapping Vista and
> putting XP Home into the new PC. I've weighed the Pros and Cons of Vista,
> and
> come up with this:
> Cons:
> -MAYBE I can set up the home network, maybe not. If I can, it'll take a
> lot
> of work.
> -I'll go from very convenient to VERY inconvenient use of email, unless I
> want ads all over the place.
> -I might easily get my stuff into Vista I may not. Programs may or may not
> work (right).
>
> Pros:
> None that I've found yet.
>
> So, I'm writing this post for 2 reasons. First, I'd like to hear thoughts
> from people who know Vista about whether or not I should just switch to XP
> Home. Second, if the opinion is to use XP, then I'll need step-by-step
> instructions for how to do it, and how to do it without loosing drivers
> and
> applications such as LightScribe for the DVD/CD/multi thingy drive, since
> HP
> doesn't give you any disks with a new PC. Supposedly, all the apps and
> drivers and such are located in the D (Recovery) drive.
>
> So, what do you all think? Stay with Vista or scrap it and go to XP?
>
> Thanks everyone.
> Susan
>

"Winnowill" <Winnowill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news8DC0A20-995D-4B54-ADDB-

> We decided to replace the older of the 2 XP Home PCs since it was over 10
> years old.

> A new PC is supposed to do things better, faster and easier as well as
> doing
> more things than the old PC youā€™re replacing. Unfortunately, it didnā€™t
> turn
> out that way.

If your saying Vista was the opposite of "better, faster and easier" then
your 10 year old PC then you got a lemon! Take it back right now and go
with someone else.

> -MAYBE I can set up the home network, maybe not. If I can, itā€™ll take a
> lot
> of work.

We would have to know more about your network.

> -Iā€™ll go from very convenient to VERY inconvenient use of email, unless I
> want ads all over the place.

Who setup outlook express for you? Get them to set up Windows Mail for you
again. Your 10 year old XP PC (hum...) did not come pre installed with "all
out email accounts open up in Outlook Express." If you want it configured
that way then you need to configure it that way. We can help but you need
to provide more info about your accounts.

> -I might easily get my stuff into Vista I may not. Programs may or may not
> work (right).
>
> Pros:
> None that Iā€™ve found yet.

It sounds like you don't really have a need for Vista. Honestly, it sounds
like changing OSs (right now) will be too much for you to handle. No
biggie! Maybe you can order online from Dell and buy a machine with XP
installed. I believe they still allow you to opt for or against the Vista
upgrade.

so you are of no help at all and just want to say that vista is good,
and he doesn't know how to use it or his computer is bad.

The more I read you posts the more trollish you sound..

If you are such a hotshot help him with the information he gives bozo brain.

But you cant because you know nothing about computers.. you only like to
whine
that vista is good. Go somewhere else to troll, loser.




"Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
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> "Winnowill" <Winnowill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news8DC0A20-995D-4B54-ADDB-
>
>> We decided to replace the older of the 2 XP Home PCs since it was over 10
>> years old.
>
>> A new PC is supposed to do things better, faster and easier as well as
>> doing
>> more things than the old PC you're replacing. Unfortunately, it didn't
>> turn
>> out that way.
>
> If your saying Vista was the opposite of "better, faster and easier" then
> your 10 year old PC then you got a lemon! Take it back right now and go
> with someone else.
>
>> -MAYBE I can set up the home network, maybe not. If I can, it'll take a
>> lot
>> of work.
>
> We would have to know more about your network.
>
>> -I'll go from very convenient to VERY inconvenient use of email, unless
>> I
>> want ads all over the place.
>
> Who setup outlook express for you? Get them to set up Windows Mail for
> you again. Your 10 year old XP PC (hum...) did not come pre installed
> with "all out email accounts open up in Outlook Express." If you want it
> configured that way then you need to configure it that way. We can help
> but you need to provide more info about your accounts.
>
>> -I might easily get my stuff into Vista I may not. Programs may or may
>> not
>> work (right).
>>
>> Pros:
>> None that I've found yet.
>
> It sounds like you don't really have a need for Vista. Honestly, it
> sounds like changing OSs (right now) will be too much for you to handle.
> No biggie! Maybe you can order online from Dell and buy a machine with XP
> installed. I believe they still allow you to opt for or against the Vista
> upgrade.

I just installed a fresh copy of Vista Ultimate x64 on my home PC. As an IT
professional with years of experience in windows OSes, I can truly say that
this hasn't been the best experience I've ever had. The installation is long
and painful and certainly doesn't seem to provide as many installation
options at Windows XP. I prefer my HDD with a minimum of two partitions--one
for the OS and apps, and one for my data. In XP, all your documents (i.e.
word, excel, etc.) will be saved in one very convenient folder called My
Documents--very aptly named and easy to manipulate. With Vista, you get a
folder named for your profile and under this one folder are a subset of
various other folders--complicated, confusing, and downright insidious. In
order to change the location for this sub-folders, you apparently, must
select them all one by one and type in the drive partition to which you want
them to default. Sigh, in XP all you had to do was right click on My
Documents and change the default drive path and it would automatically move
all subfolders beneath it to the desired location.

I'm also not at all fond of the method used to navigate between files and
folders--far, far too complicated. They missed the boat entirely on this
release. Instead of simplifying they over-complicated. I suppose we'll all
be forced to get used to it but, I'll be keeping an XP machine around for a
couple of years to come. I'm far more productive using a system with me and
not AGAINST me.



"Winnowill" wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Iā€™m not a tech or anything, Iā€™m probably pretty close to ā€œan average PC
> userā€. I do the internet, email, some online groups, do some artwork and/or
> photo work in Adobe Photo Shop, listen to music/watch movies, Pretty basic
> stuff. The most ā€˜intenseā€™ game I do is MS Flight Sim 2000. Not exactly
> high-end gaming.
>
> My family had 3 PC networked together to share internet, a printer/scanner
> and exchange files and stuff. 2 PCs ran XP Home and 1 ran XP Pro.
>
> We decided to replace the older of the 2 XP Home PCs since it was over 10
> years old. But, we had to wait for our income tax refunds to do it, and by
> that time, about the only thing you could get was Vista. Vista sounded OK,
> but I wasnā€™t all that interested in it. All I really wanted was a higher
> performance PC, so last week we bought an HP Pavilion a1740n (2GB RAM, 1.9GHZ
> Intel processor and a 320GB HD). Of course, it came with Windows Vista Home
> Premium.
>
> A new PC is supposed to do things better, faster and easier as well as doing
> more things than the old PC youā€™re replacing. Unfortunately, it didnā€™t turn
> out that way. With Vista, I have had nothing but annoyance and aggravation
> since I got the new PC hooked up and turned on.
>
> Iā€™m now looking at brand new PC that simply refuses to believe that itā€™s
> part of a network (even tho it has to go thru another PC to connect to the
> internet). Iā€™m looking at brand new PC that wonā€™t allow me to easily access
> the Hotmail email accounts that weā€™ve had for years. (Iā€™m used to pushing one
> button on the keyboard and having all out email accounts open up in Outlook
> Express). Iā€™m looking at a new PC that SAYS how easy itā€™s Transfer Wizard is,
> but then tells you that it only works for files and settings. Transferring
> programs requires you to download another program, which is currently only in
> the beta stage, and that is set up to do ā€œover 100 of the most popular
> programsā€. Wow. Big, fat, hairy deal! I wonder how many of those programs are
> one that I use?
>
> So, I found my way in here, looking for answers. I found them, but not the
> ones that I wanted to find. OK, I can PROBABLY get the network to work, if I
> go thru some really complicated sounding procedures. I may or may not be able
> to transfer my programs to Vista, and once there, they may or may not work
> right. (3rd PlanIt, which is a model railroad planning program that I copied
> to Vista with a little flash drive works just fine, except that the RR tracks
> float in the air, and the ballast that are supposed to be sitting on is
> missing.) And of course, weā€™ll no longer be able to do our email with one
> push of a button.
>
> With all that, Iā€™m giving serious thought to just scrapping Vista and
> putting XP Home into the new PC. Iā€™ve weighed the Pros and Cons of Vista, and
> come up with this:
> Cons:
> -MAYBE I can set up the home network, maybe not. If I can, itā€™ll take a lot
> of work.
> -Iā€™ll go from very convenient to VERY inconvenient use of email, unless I
> want ads all over the place.
> -I might easily get my stuff into Vista I may not. Programs may or may not
> work (right).
>
> Pros:
> None that Iā€™ve found yet.
>
> So, Iā€™m writing this post for 2 reasons. First, Iā€™d like to hear thoughts
> from people who know Vista about whether or not I should just switch to XP
> Home. Second, if the opinion is to use XP, then Iā€™ll need step-by-step
> instructions for how to do it, and how to do it without loosing drivers and
> applications such as LightScribe for the DVD/CD/multi thingy drive, since HP
> doesnā€™t give you any disks with a new PC. Supposedly, all the apps and
> drivers and such are located in the D (Recovery) drive.
>
> So, what do you all think? Stay with Vista or scrap it and go to XP?
>
> Thanks everyone.
> Susan
>

So install XP, you must have a spare license now you've decommissioned your
old PC....

Vista is new, there will be problems. XP was the same as was Windows 3.1 all
those many years ago!!

"Winnowill" <Winnowill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news8DC0A20-995D-4B54-ADDB-54B6DFB34236@microsoft.com...
: Hi everyone,
:
: I'm not a tech or anything, I'm probably pretty close to "an average PC
: user". I do the internet, email, some online groups, do some artwork
and/or
: photo work in Adobe Photo Shop, listen to music/watch movies, Pretty basic
: stuff. The most 'intense' game I do is MS Flight Sim 2000. Not exactly
: high-end gaming.
:
: My family had 3 PC networked together to share internet, a printer/scanner
: and exchange files and stuff. 2 PCs ran XP Home and 1 ran XP Pro.
:
: We decided to replace the older of the 2 XP Home PCs since it was over 10
: years old. But, we had to wait for our income tax refunds to do it, and by
: that time, about the only thing you could get was Vista. Vista sounded OK,
: but I wasn't all that interested in it. All I really wanted was a higher
: performance PC, so last week we bought an HP Pavilion a1740n (2GB RAM,
1.9GHZ
: Intel processor and a 320GB HD). Of course, it came with Windows Vista
Home
: Premium.
:
: A new PC is supposed to do things better, faster and easier as well as
doing
: more things than the old PC you're replacing. Unfortunately, it didn't
turn
: out that way. With Vista, I have had nothing but annoyance and aggravation
: since I got the new PC hooked up and turned on.
:
: I'm now looking at brand new PC that simply refuses to believe that it's
: part of a network (even tho it has to go thru another PC to connect to the
: internet). I'm looking at brand new PC that won't allow me to easily
access
: the Hotmail email accounts that we've had for years. (I'm used to pushing
one
: button on the keyboard and having all out email accounts open up in
Outlook
: Express). I'm looking at a new PC that SAYS how easy it's Transfer Wizard
is,
: but then tells you that it only works for files and settings. Transferring
: programs requires you to download another program, which is currently only
in
: the beta stage, and that is set up to do "over 100 of the most popular
: programs". Wow. Big, fat, hairy deal! I wonder how many of those programs
are
: one that I use?
:
: So, I found my way in here, looking for answers. I found them, but not the
: ones that I wanted to find. OK, I can PROBABLY get the network to work, if
I
: go thru some really complicated sounding procedures. I may or may not be
able
: to transfer my programs to Vista, and once there, they may or may not work
: right. (3rd PlanIt, which is a model railroad planning program that I
copied
: to Vista with a little flash drive works just fine, except that the RR
tracks
: float in the air, and the ballast that are supposed to be sitting on is
: missing.) And of course, we'll no longer be able to do our email with one
: push of a button.
:
: With all that, I'm giving serious thought to just scrapping Vista and
: putting XP Home into the new PC. I've weighed the Pros and Cons of Vista,
and
: come up with this:
: Cons:
: -MAYBE I can set up the home network, maybe not. If I can, it'll take a
lot
: of work.
: -I'll go from very convenient to VERY inconvenient use of email, unless I
: want ads all over the place.
: -I might easily get my stuff into Vista I may not. Programs may or may not
: work (right).
:
: Pros:
: None that I've found yet.
:
: So, I'm writing this post for 2 reasons. First, I'd like to hear thoughts
: from people who know Vista about whether or not I should just switch to XP
: Home. Second, if the opinion is to use XP, then I'll need step-by-step
: instructions for how to do it, and how to do it without loosing drivers
and
: applications such as LightScribe for the DVD/CD/multi thingy drive, since
HP
: doesn't give you any disks with a new PC. Supposedly, all the apps and
: drivers and such are located in the D (Recovery) drive.
:
: So, what do you all think? Stay with Vista or scrap it and go to XP?
:
: Thanks everyone.
: Susan
:

Winnowill wrote:

> A new PC is supposed to do things better, faster and easier as well as doing
> more things than the old PC you're replacing. Unfortunately, it didn't turn
> out that way. With Vista, I have had nothing but annoyance and aggravation
> since I got the new PC hooked up and turned on.

I, too, am an average user. I got a new PC - lesser spec than yours it
seems - and Vista. And I can tell you it is much faster. And the more
you use it, the faster it gets. I gather that Vista learns how you use
your PC, what programs and files you use the most, and keeps them
ready and waiting for you.

It's also much, much easier. If you've been using XP for years, you
are probably just stuck in the groove of doing things the XP way. The
Search and Help features are infinitely better than anything that has
gone before.

I could put a huge list together of pros for me - faster, easier, I
feel much more comfortable letting the kids use it, much more fun and
looks better (some may sneer at the last two, but anything that makes
life in front of a pc a bit more pleasurable is fine by me).

If your only problems are setting up a network (I did it without using
any instructions, maybe I got lucky) and not being able to press a
particular button to open your emails (I'm sure this can be sorted),
then you really should find some better things in life to worry about!

Give it a couple of weeks, resolve those minor issues, and you'll
never go back.

Winnowill
I had prepared the post below with almost the same heading but you beat
me to it, thought I would still post here instead of a new thread as the
theme is the same.
Steve

Vista A Disappointing Experience

System Specs
Gigabyte GA81945P-Pro
Intel 805D Dual Core 2.66 GHz
2GB DDR II 667Mhz RAM
ATI Radion X1950 Pro 256 MB
Realtek gb LAN
Broardcom 1gb LAN
1 * Seagate 320GB HDD
2 * Seagate 250GB HDD
1 * Seagate 200GB HDD
2 * Seagate 120GB HDD
Lite-On Multi DVD/CD Writer
2 * LG Flatron 17ā€ Widescreen Digital LCD Monitors

I did not know quite what to expect when I install Windows Vista
Ultimate but 6 weeks of daily usage for work and entertainment purposes
leaves me wondering when the benefits of moving from XP will kick-in
(notice I said moving to XP not upgrading). I have a lot of respect
for many of Microsoftā€™s innovations and I have been using their products
since the mid-eighties and make a good living selling and supporting MS
based solutions, I have no axe to grind with them.

Installing
I first attempted to upgrade from XP to Vista and followed all the
correct procedures however everything was terribly slow and the system
was generally unhappy so I bit the bullet and did a clean install. This
time things went much better although the install routine was quite time
consuming.

3rd Party Driver Support
After the basic system was up and running I needed to get my dual
monitor setup up and running with the latest drivers from ATI. In XP
adding removing additional monitors was a breeze and I was able to
hotswap monitors with no problem, I cannot currently do this in Vista
which needs a reboot and fiddle about with the ATI control panel.
Microsoft and ATI should have worked this out before releasing this product.

I next connected my HP Photosmart 7960 which was recognized but no
specific Windows drivers were available. HP does not have a Vista driver
for this model either I ended up having to us a Microsoft driver for the
7800 series. Once again Microsoft and HP should have worked this out.

Next on the list was getting my HTC Universal and HTC Artemis WM5 phones
synced to my PC, I downloaded the Windows Mobile Device Center beta
(all that was available at the time) which would allow me to copy files
but would not automatically detect either devices for syncing until I
double clicked the device in WMDC. Now been fixed but should have been
ready at official release.

Networking
Was able to connect to and join my domain fairly easily and setup a
couple of VPN connections without too much trouble so no complaints on
this one.

As to the design layout and work flow of networking in Vista IMHO it is
a step backwards, I work with many different network connections on a
daily basis and there are far too many mouse clicks and panes to get
through to do the simplest of tasks. i.e The consolidated network
connection icon now means additional steps to disconnect or view status
and it is not possible to see at a glance what connections are active
which might have been inadvertently left open.

Aero Interface
In general I like the look and feel of the Aero Interface but every time
a UAC confirmation pop up or a media player other than Microsoftā€™s own
is used my screen flashes black while the mode is reset. This is very
distracting and feels like Aero is still in the experimental stages of
development.

File Explorer
File Explorer is possibly the biggest regression of any Windows feature
ever. Just opening a local folder can take 40 seconds while Explorer
scans itā€™s contents. I had to disable thumbnail viewing due to the
fact that displaying them would cause Explorer to hang, so as a keen
digital photographer this is a big drawback.

The biggest fault is in file moving/copying where it just hangs for ages
calculating transfer time before actually doing anything. File transfer
from the command prompt works like a fine.

The breadcrumbs in the address bar are fine for those who want to use
them but why take away the UP level button? Surely itā€™s easier just to
click UP until you get where youā€™re going than to have to read and
process what could be a long complicated bread crumbed folder path, it
definitely makes navigation more tedious for me.

Terminal Services Remote Desktop
I used to be able to enter an IP address or computer name, username,
password and domain to make a connection to a remote server this can no
longer be done in Vistaā€™s remote desktop. Remote Desktop tries to work
out what I should be entering and gives me no option to edit the domain.
So I then have to wait for the login failure and enter login details
manually.

UAC
This really is a mixed blessing and leaving the flashing black screen
issue apart UAC is a good idea in principle but in practice I see the
UAC half a dozen times a day or more, how long will it be before myself
and many other users become so inured to this that we just click
continue by force of habit? UAC needs some intelligence to be really
useful.

Games
Only playing Medieval Total War at the moment but works the same as on XP.

Conclusion
I have to say the whole experience has been disappointing, nothing
disastrous but I was not expecting to see my productivity decrease with
no discernable benefits. Even after so many years of development Vista
is not ready to persuade me that it holds real benefits for me or my
customers over Windows XP. I can see it will be useful to those who
never learned to browse safely and protect their PC but itā€™s a hard sell
for the rest of us. The transition from Windows 98 to Windows 2000 was
of a real, tangible, cost justifiable benefit and moving to XP was
painless but less beneficial however I worry about Vista because I canā€™t
see the point of it, yes I know itā€™s more secure but that is not enough
for a major version release, rather than thinking up new names for old
features I would have preferred some real innovation apart from a 3d
interface.

I hope there is a mother of a service pack in the wings which will at
least get me back to XP functionality.

"nick" <1@1.1> wrote in message
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> so you are of no help at all and just want to say that vista is good,
> and he doesn't know how to use it or his computer is bad.
>

Essentially that is correct. All the problems that were mentioned are not
problems with Vista. It's the OPs lack of understanding about Vista.

> The more I read you posts the more trollish you sound..
>

Ditto.

> If you are such a hotshot help him with the information he gives bozo
> brain.
>

Hmmm... me think your are trolling.

> But you cant because you know nothing about computers.. you only like to
> whine
> that vista is good.

How can somebody 'whine' that something is good?

>Go somewhere else to troll, loser.
>

Right back at yer....

"Good News!" <spank@themonkey.net> wrote in message
news:ei5zPQ9XHHA.4308@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> So install XP, you must have a spare license now you've decommissioned
> your
> old PC....
>

Depends if he had a valid retail licence or not. You can't transfer OEM
licences like that.

> Vista is new, there will be problems. XP was the same as was Windows 3.1
> all
> those many years ago!!
>

Indeed.