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Old 07-02-2007, 09:48 AM   #1
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my friend has an ultimate dvd can i use it for 30days then format then use
for another 30days and so on ??? or does this violate the rules or
something?

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Old 07-02-2007, 09:53 AM   #2
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WoW wrote:
> my friend has an ultimate dvd can i use it for 30days then format then
> use for another 30days and so on ??? or does this violate the rules or
> something?


Actually, you would only have to format every 120 days.

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Old 07-02-2007, 10:11 AM   #3
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WoW wrote:

> my friend has an ultimate dvd can i use it for 30days then format
> then use for another 30days and so on ??? or does this violate the
> rules or something?


That would be either illegal or unlicensed use, depending on where you
are located. If you're going to do that why not admit you're a pirate
and get a proper pirated or cracked copy? Either way it's theft... your
conscience will tell you what you should do.

And I'm not preaching, if you're happy with stealing software then go
ahead and do it.

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Old 07-02-2007, 12:12 PM   #4
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i wasnt saying i would do if it were illegal if u look i asked before i did.
ok then i will just buy a license they arnt that expesive for an oem in the
uk (£115). thnks for u help.

and pual-b dont accuse inocent before proven guilty

"Paul-B" <paul@rasf1.net> wrote in message
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> WoW wrote:
>
>> my friend has an ultimate dvd can i use it for 30days then format
>> then use for another 30days and so on ??? or does this violate the
>> rules or something?

>
> That would be either illegal or unlicensed use, depending on where you
> are located. If you're going to do that why not admit you're a pirate
> and get a proper pirated or cracked copy? Either way it's theft... your
> conscience will tell you what you should do.
>
> And I'm not preaching, if you're happy with stealing software then go
> ahead and do it.
>
> --
> Paul-B


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Old 07-02-2007, 01:53 PM   #5
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Microsoft has left this door open for people. MS knows that a person will
get tired of reinstalling everything every 30 days. In the meantime they
will/may become hooked on Vista and eventually purchase it.

Nothing "illegal" here.

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You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!



"Paul-B" <paul@rasf1.net> wrote in message
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> WoW wrote:
>
>> my friend has an ultimate dvd can i use it for 30days then format
>> then use for another 30days and so on ??? or does this violate the
>> rules or something?

>
> That would be either illegal or unlicensed use, depending on where you
> are located. If you're going to do that why not admit you're a pirate
> and get a proper pirated or cracked copy? Either way it's theft... your
> conscience will tell you what you should do.
>
> And I'm not preaching, if you're happy with stealing software then go
> ahead and do it.
>
> --
> Paul-B


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Old 07-02-2007, 02:03 PM   #6
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Of course, the easiest way to get more time
before activating is,

open an elevated command prompt and type
slmgr -rearm

A user can only do this three times. Each time giving the
user an additional 30 days. With the original 30 days,
that gives a user 120 days.

-Michael

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Microsoft has left this door open for people. MS knows that a person will get tired of
> reinstalling everything every 30 days. In the meantime they will/may become hooked on Vista
> and eventually purchase it.
>
> Nothing "illegal" here.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
>
>
> "Paul-B" <paul@rasf1.net> wrote in message news:52tqe4F1pt5bmU1@mid.individual.net...
>> WoW wrote:
>>
>>> my friend has an ultimate dvd can i use it for 30days then format
>>> then use for another 30days and so on ??? or does this violate the
>>> rules or something?

>>
>> That would be either illegal or unlicensed use, depending on where you
>> are located. If you're going to do that why not admit you're a pirate
>> and get a proper pirated or cracked copy? Either way it's theft... your
>> conscience will tell you what you should do.
>>
>> And I'm not preaching, if you're happy with stealing software then go
>> ahead and do it.
>>
>> --
>> Paul-B

>


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Old 07-02-2007, 03:31 PM   #7
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> i wasnt saying i would do if it were illegal if u look i asked before i did.
> ok then i will just buy a license they arnt that expesive for an oem in the
> uk (£115). thnks for u help.
>
> and pual-b dont accuse inocent before proven guilty
>

You are quite right, your original post made it clear that you were
asking about the legality. So a presumption of guilt was jumping the
gone.

The did with innocent until proven guilty -- the sequence would require
an accusation first, as the law doesn't prosecute without an
accusation. The deal is, some party does or does not do something
which is thought to be illegal. Then another party (or the state)
chooses to act to bring charges. The lawyers make a lot of money. At
that point evidence is acquired for a court case.

The deal here is there is a presumption of innocence until proven
guilty, but the accusation must precede that finding.


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Old 07-02-2007, 03:48 PM   #8
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BSchnur wrote:

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> The deal here is there is a presumption of innocence until proven
> guilty, but the accusation must precede that finding.


Which is something none of MS "anti piracy" programs do.

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Old 07-02-2007, 05:18 PM   #9
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WoW wrote:

> i wasnt saying i would do if it were illegal if u look i asked before
> i did. ok then i will just buy a license they arnt that expesive for
> an oem in the uk (£115). thnks for u help.
>
> and pual-b dont accuse inocent before proven guilty
>
> "Paul-B" <paul@rasf1.net> wrote in message
> news:52tqe4F1pt5bmU1@mid.individual.net...
> > WoW wrote:
> >
> > > my friend has an ultimate dvd can i use it for 30days then format
> > > then use for another 30days and so on ??? or does this violate the
> > > rules or something?

> >
> > That would be either illegal or unlicensed use, depending on where
> > you are located. If you're going to do that why not admit you're a
> > pirate and get a proper pirated or cracked copy? Either way it's
> > theft... your conscience will tell you what you should do.
> >
> > And I'm not preaching, if you're happy with stealing software then
> > go ahead and do it.
> >


> i wasnt saying i would do if it were illegal if u look i asked before
> i did. ok then i will just buy a license they arnt that expesive for
> an oem in the uk (£115). thnks for u help.
>
> and pual-b dont accuse inocent before proven guilty


Sorry, In wasn't accusing you of being a pirate... probably worded my
reply wrongly.

Personally I don't have a problem with software piracy... I don't do it
myself because I don't need to but if someone wants to take the risk
who am I to judge... I quite often break the speed limit, which
probably is far more a "crime" than running illegal/pirated software.
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Old 07-02-2007, 06:15 PM   #10
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Paul-B wrote:
> WoW wrote:
>
>> i wasnt saying i would do if it were illegal if u look i asked before
>> i did. ok then i will just buy a license they arnt that expesive for
>> an oem in the uk (£115). thnks for u help.
>>
>> and pual-b dont accuse inocent before proven guilty
>>
>> "Paul-B" <paul@rasf1.net> wrote in message
>> news:52tqe4F1pt5bmU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> WoW wrote:
>>>
>>>> my friend has an ultimate dvd can i use it for 30days then format
>>>> then use for another 30days and so on ??? or does this violate the
>>>> rules or something?
>>> That would be either illegal or unlicensed use, depending on where
>>> you are located. If you're going to do that why not admit you're a
>>> pirate and get a proper pirated or cracked copy? Either way it's
>>> theft... your conscience will tell you what you should do.
>>>
>>> And I'm not preaching, if you're happy with stealing software then
>>> go ahead and do it.
>>>

>
>> i wasnt saying i would do if it were illegal if u look i asked before
>> i did. ok then i will just buy a license they arnt that expesive for
>> an oem in the uk (£115). thnks for u help.
>>
>> and pual-b dont accuse inocent before proven guilty

>
> Sorry, In wasn't accusing you of being a pirate... probably worded my
> reply wrongly.
>
> Personally I don't have a problem with software piracy... I don't do it
> myself because I don't need to but if someone wants to take the risk
> who am I to judge... I quite often break the speed limit, which
> probably is far more a "crime" than running illegal/pirated software.


No one has been killed from using pirated software. Speeding in a car,
however ...

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