Re: Dumbed down features of Windows Vista.

"Tester" <Tester@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Even though Windows Vista has many new nice and exiting features, I think
> there are something got worse than the previous versions of Windows. I
> think
> you may not agree with me, but there might be quite a people who think
> like
> me.
>
> 1. Removed icons from the start menu item.
> As you know there are items like "Computer", "Connect to" and "Control
> panel" on this menu. On Windows XP, each had its own icons. But on Windows
> Vista the icons are gone. Icons are only shown at the top of the menu when
> the mouse pointer is hovering oh that item.
> Aren't pictures more quickly noticeable than texts? So many times I
> misclicked "Connect to" or "Computer" when I need to click "Control
> panel".
>
> 2. Simmilar icon colors
> Every icons are in blue or green. I can't figure out each from another
> quickly. Expecially at the file open dialogue. The icons at the left
> "Common
> places" got smaller and their color all look alike.
>
> 3. The good(?) old file association dialog is gone.
> Windwos Explorer-> Tools -> Folder options-> File association is gone! All
> I
> can now do on Vista is just to set the default opener application. I can't
> delete unwanted extensions or add or remove special commands like "open"
> or
> "print"

Control Panel | Programs | Default Programs | Associate file type or
protocol with a program. I really didn't have any trouble finding it when I
wanted it the first time.

> 4. Start menu closes after item deletion
> As you know when you install many programs there exists many unnecessary
> items at the start menu. I usually right click on them and delete them. On
> Windows XP, the start menu didn't close so I can continue to delete
> another
> items but on Windows Vista, it closes right after deleting one item. Now I
> have to click start, All programs and the folder again.
>
> 5. Hard to open Network connections window.
> On Windows XP, Just click on the "Connect to" opened it but on Windows
> Vista, I have to Click on the Connect to, then View network computers and
> devices, then Network and sharing center, then manage network connections.
> It
> doesn't even appear on the Control Panel.

Control Panel | Network and Internet | Network and Sharing Center | Connect
to a Network or one of the other lefthand column choices

> 6. Can't customize Windows Explorer toolbar buttons.
> On Windows XP, I can add buttons I want, and remove unncessary buttons.
> But
> on Windows Vista, they're fixed. Whey there is a "Burn" button instead of
> "Copy","Move" or "Delete"? How many users would that often burn files
> directly from the Windows explorer?



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Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
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"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> "Tester" <Tester@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:653A2F60-A52E-4175-A532-F828F46D9029@microsoft.com...
>> Even though Windows Vista has many new nice and exiting features, I
>> think
>> there are something got worse than the previous versions of Windows. I
>> think
>> you may not agree with me, but there might be quite a people who think
>> like
>> me.
>>

>> 3. The good(?) old file association dialog is gone.
>> Windwos Explorer-> Tools -> Folder options-> File association is gone!
>> All I
>> can now do on Vista is just to set the default opener application. I
>> can't
>> delete unwanted extensions or add or remove special commands like "open"
>> or
>> "print"
>
> Control Panel | Programs | Default Programs | Associate file type or
> protocol with a program. I really didn't have any trouble finding it when
> I wanted it the first time.
>

How do you change (edit) the open action for a given program now?

steve

"Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:7A9B3F4E-BEF1-4CDD-BD55-366A6C0ADDC2@microsoft.com...
>> "Tester" <Tester@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:653A2F60-A52E-4175-A532-F828F46D9029@microsoft.com...
>>> Even though Windows Vista has many new nice and exiting features, I
>>> think
>>> there are something got worse than the previous versions of Windows. I
>>> think
>>> you may not agree with me, but there might be quite a people who think
>>> like
>>> me.
>>>
>
>>> 3. The good(?) old file association dialog is gone.
>>> Windwos Explorer-> Tools -> Folder options-> File association is gone!
>>> All I
>>> can now do on Vista is just to set the default opener application. I
>>> can't
>>> delete unwanted extensions or add or remove special commands like "open"
>>> or
>>> "print"
>>
>> Control Panel | Programs | Default Programs | Associate file type or
>> protocol with a program. I really didn't have any trouble finding it
>> when I wanted it the first time.
>>
>
> How do you change (edit) the open action for a given program now?
>
> steve
>
>
>

I have to edit it in the registry.

steve

"Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> How do you change (edit) the open action for a given program now?
>>
>
> I have to edit it in the registry.
>


At the moment I am using a component of Creative Element Power Tools
(trial). But I only really want the File Type Doctor component, and I don't
want to pay for it either. But it is quite nice. A lot better than the
File Types tab in XP.

http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article01-500

http://www.creativelement.com/powertools/

ss.

"Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
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>>
>> Control Panel | Programs | Default Programs | Associate file type or
>> protocol with a program. I really didn't have any trouble finding it
>> when I wanted it the first time.
>>
>
> How do you change (edit) the open action for a given program now?
>

I just do it. UAC is ON.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
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No, I mean suppose there is a "%1" or something you have to add or you have
to verify the settings for the URL HTTP protocol such as described here:
www.oehelp.com/ielnk.aspx

My point is that you cannot "edit" the action. You can just provide another
program. The actual strings are not editable anymore. How would you
uncheck "use DDE" here?

Damn overtype bug again! <GRR>

steve

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:7A9B3F4E-BEF1-4CDD-BD55-366A6C0ADDC2@microsoft.com...
>>>
>>> Control Panel | Programs | Default Programs | Associate file type or
>>> protocol with a program. I really didn't have any trouble finding it
>>> when I wanted it the first time.
>>>
>>
>> How do you change (edit) the open action for a given program now?
>>
>
> I just do it. UAC is ON.
>
> --
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
> http://www.fjsmjs.com
> Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.
>
>

"Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
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> No, I mean suppose there is a "%1" or something you have to add or you
> have to verify the settings for the URL HTTP protocol such as described
> here: www.oehelp.com/ielnk.aspx
>
> My point is that you cannot "edit" the action. You can just provide
> another program. The actual strings are not editable anymore. How would
> you uncheck "use DDE" here?


Oh, he said. I don't know yet.

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Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
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"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
> news:E3B6C1B3-B01B-4A86-9160-DF6B5C396304@microsoft.com...
>> No, I mean suppose there is a "%1" or something you have to add or you
>> have to verify the settings for the URL HTTP protocol such as described
>> here: www.oehelp.com/ielnk.aspx
>>
>> My point is that you cannot "edit" the action. You can just provide
>> another program. The actual strings are not editable anymore. How would
>> you uncheck "use DDE" here?
>
>
> Oh, he said. I don't know yet.
>
> --
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
> http://www.fjsmjs.com
> Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.
>
>

That was my point. You can only change these things in the registry now, so
articles such as that recent one on IE7 links won't apply at all, but rather
users will now have to go to the registry to fix file association problems.
That issue already came up in the WinMail NG relative to the mailto
protocol.

So now we'll have to tell the users to use Regedit, since there no longer is
a GUI method.

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\http\shell\open\command

The (Default) value is:

"D:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe" -nohome

then

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\http\shell\open\ddeexec

and

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\http\shell\open\ddeexec\Application

and then

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\http\shell\open\ddeexec\Topic

and all the values under each of those keys.

Nice job, Microsoft! So much for avoiding editing the registry directly by
the users.

steve