Installing XP after Vista

When I install XP on a Vista system (different partition), XP will overwrite
the Vista boot loader, then I am unable to run Vista.
If I restore the Vista boot loader from the Vista DVD, I am no longer able
to boot XP. So how do I get the vista boot loader to let me boot xp?

The rule in the future is always install the older OS first. Use this:

VistaBoot Pro from Pro-Networks
http://www.pro-networks.org/vistabootpro/intro.php

Good luck,

CH



"Hal9000" <devnull@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> When I install XP on a Vista system (different partition), XP will
> overwrite the Vista boot loader, then I am unable to run Vista.
> If I restore the Vista boot loader from the Vista DVD, I am no longer able
> to boot XP. So how do I get the vista boot loader to let me boot xp?
>
>

Install XP first and then Vista. When XP is installed on 'C' partition and
Vista on 'D', it will show Vista as if its on C when you use Vista and when
XP is used Vista will be shown as of its on D. This I was not able to
understand.
Can anyone please explain this phenomena ?
Vista RC 1 build 5600 is the best from Microsoft. Just cant wait for the
final release.
Farid
"Hal9000" <devnull@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> When I install XP on a Vista system (different partition), XP will
> overwrite the Vista boot loader, then I am unable to run Vista.
> If I restore the Vista boot loader from the Vista DVD, I am no longer able
> to boot XP. So how do I get the vista boot loader to let me boot xp?
>
>

Only if Vista is installed by booting from the dvd. If Vista is installed
from the XP desktop the drives will remain lettered in Vista as they are in
XP.

"farid" <faridansari_58@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Install XP first and then Vista. When XP is installed on 'C' partition and
> Vista on 'D', it will show Vista as if its on C when you use Vista and
> when XP is used Vista will be shown as of its on D. This I was not able to
> understand.
> Can anyone please explain this phenomena ?
> Vista RC 1 build 5600 is the best from Microsoft. Just cant wait for the
> final release.
> Farid

Yes Farid. Here's how it works:

Most people doing a dual or multi boot with two Windows Operating Systems
prefer to set up Vista from XP. That way the drive letters are preserved.

If you do a restart or a cold boot of the DVD, then the *Bios will dictate
the drive letters* and the Vista drive letters will move over one alphabet
letter towards Z, and that's what you will see as drive letter assignments
when you're on the Vista boot.

When you go to the XP boot, you'll see the drives as they were from XP.

CH




"farid" <faridansari_58@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Install XP first and then Vista. When XP is installed on 'C' partition and
> Vista on 'D', it will show Vista as if its on C when you use Vista and
> when XP is used Vista will be shown as of its on D. This I was not able to
> understand.
> Can anyone please explain this phenomena ?
> Vista RC 1 build 5600 is the best from Microsoft. Just cant wait for the
> final release.
> Farid
> "Hal9000" <devnull@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:309C0DDB-7C57-4CFB-9310-148FEC3761B5@microsoft.com...
>> When I install XP on a Vista system (different partition), XP will
>> overwrite the Vista boot loader, then I am unable to run Vista.
>> If I restore the Vista boot loader from the Vista DVD, I am no longer
>> able to boot XP. So how do I get the vista boot loader to let me boot xp?
>>
>>
>

> As everyone know if we install XP (even if it is in a different
> partition) on a computer which has got Vista in it. We would be able to
> boot only to XP. If we try changing the boot loader, we will be able to
> boot to Vista but noit to XP.



NOT ALWAYS TRUE!

It depends upon the methodology you use to install the 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc.
operating system.

I installed Vista on the 1st partition. I then installed XP on the 2nd
partition. I installed DOS 6.22 on the 3rd partition.

Using my 3rd party boot manager I can boot to any of these 3 O/Ss without
any difficulty.

If you wish to use the supplied boot manager function of Vista, what you say
is valid.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"premg" <premg.2pa5ne@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
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>
> As everyone know if we install XP (even if it is in a different
> partition) on a computer which has got Vista in it. We would be able to
> boot only to XP. If we try changing the boot loader, we will be able to
> boot to Vista but noit to XP. To get a Dual boot situation in such
> scenarios we can follow the manual steps of editing the Boot loader or
> we can use third party softwares like Vista Boot Pro.
>
> *HOW TO USE VISTA BOOT PRO TO GET A DUAL BOOT SITUATION
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*
> You can download and install Vista Bootpro from the below Link
> http://www.vistabootpro.org/
> - As soon as we open Vista Boot Pro it will automatically backup your
> BCD Entries.
> - Go to the Bootloader tab and select "Reisntall the Vista Bootloader"
> and say apply.
> - Now go to "Manage OS Entries tab" and place a check mark in "Add new
> Operating system entry"
> - Hight light "Windows legacy"
> - Type in a discription for your legacy OS (Windows XP)
> - And Under Drive letter select C: (Even if XP is installed in an
> other drive, the boot loader will be located in C: Drive itself)
> - Click on Apply and restart the computer you will get Both the OS as
> Dual Boot.
>
> *HOW TO MANUALLY EDIT BCD ENTRIES
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*
> - Boot from the Vista DVD
> - Once you get the language options click on next and try to open the
> repair options.
> - Open the command prompt from the repair options and type in the
> below commands.
> - cd e:\boot (Where E; is the drive letter for your DVD drive.)
> Once we are in E:\boot> type in the below commands.
> - bootsect.exe -NT60 All (This command gives controll to Vista Boto
> Loader)
> - Bcdedit -create {ntldr} -d "Description for earlier Windows version"
> (Adding NTLDR to BCD)
> - Bcdedit -set {ntldr} device partition=x (Where X would be C: - this
> is the partition where the Boot loader is located)
> - Bcdedit -set {ntldr} path \ntldr
> - Bcdedit -displayorder {ntldr} -addlast
>
> Restart the computer and now we will get both XP and Vista as Dual
> boot.
>
> You can check the below microsoft Article for this
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/933179/en-us
>
>
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How did you get DOS 6.22 (FAT16) to run on an NTFS partition?
It won't even run on FAT32. Did you use ntfs2dos or something
like it?

I never said that DOS was on a NTFS partition. I installed it on a 50 meg
fat16 partition (my third partition - about 50 gig in from the front of the
drive).

Now I know that you are going to say that DOS has to be installed as the
first partition but that just isn't true at all. It is all in the
methodology, as I explained in my first post.

When I am at the point (very close now) that I no longer want to triple
boot, I can delete the 2nd partition (Windows XP) and the 3rd partition (DOS
6.22) and resize partition D: to use the unallocated space.

Vista will not be affected in the least (it will remain as partition C -
because it was all planned this way from the git-go.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Ian D" <taurus@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> How did you get DOS 6.22 (FAT16) to run on an NTFS partition?
> It won't even run on FAT32. Did you use ntfs2dos or something
> like it?
>

I see what you've done now. As far as DOS is concerned it's all
alone on its own 50 meg C: drive. As a matter of interest, have
you tried running Win 3.1 or WFWG? I guess the biggest
problem would be video drivers for anything other than standard
VGA.

DOS is all alone on it's own 50 meg "partition".

Because my boot manager can hide primary partitions, other than the one I am
booted into, each operating system sees itself as being on partition C:

Yes, I have installed WFWG 3.11 for kicks. Talk about booting in a flash!
Bang - it's there. Of course once I'm there I can't really do anything
constructive except reminisce.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Ian D" <taurus@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>I see what you've done now. As far as DOS is concerned it's all
> alone on its own 50 meg C: drive. As a matter of interest, have
> you tried running Win 3.1 or WFWG? I guess the biggest
> problem would be video drivers for anything other than standard
> VGA.
>