Screen Saver

Anyone else having an issue with Screen Saver and Sleep mode activating. If
I set the screen saver to come on after any amount of time, it never
activates. It doesn't matter how many minutes I set (1min->60mins), my
monitor is NOT turnning off.

I have not been able to fix it yet. Others with MS Wireless mice have had
the issue. I have tried changing to Logitech mouse and keyboard. Wired
mouse. etc. The screen saver still does not work correctly. Sometimes it
comes on other times it doesn't, but mostly doesn't. If I stop the Task
Scheduler processes in the Task Manager (taskeng.exe) then it seems to comes
on after the alotted time. But the task scheduler processes restart
themselves.

I wish we could find the culprit and fix this.

give us some details here..could be a number of things causing the problem.
what video card? what version of Vista? etc...

"Cliff Diamond" wrote:

> Anyone else having an issue with Screen Saver and Sleep mode activating. If
> I set the screen saver to come on after any amount of time, it never
> activates. It doesn't matter how many minutes I set (1min->60mins), my
> monitor is NOT turnning off.
>
> I have not been able to fix it yet. Others with MS Wireless mice have had
> the issue. I have tried changing to Logitech mouse and keyboard. Wired
> mouse. etc. The screen saver still does not work correctly. Sometimes it
> comes on other times it doesn't, but mostly doesn't. If I stop the Task
> Scheduler processes in the Task Manager (taskeng.exe) then it seems to comes
> on after the alotted time. But the task scheduler processes restart
> themselves.
>
> I wish we could find the culprit and fix this.
>
>

I have an Intel Desktop board PC with 875 Chipset. My video card is the
Nivdia 6000 series. I have tried both the built in drivers and Nvidia
drivers. Soundcard is the SoundBlaster X-Fi Extreme, using the Soundblaster
drivers. Logitech 7100 Wireless Keyboard and G5 wired mouse, Vista drivers
for these. I am using Vista Ultimate released version.

Thanks,
Cliff

"Ron K." <RonK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F5C7449B-AE54-4EB3-AFEE-C6C60AF11621@microsoft.com...
> give us some details here..could be a number of things causing the
> problem.
> what video card? what version of Vista? etc...
>
> "Cliff Diamond" wrote:
>
>> Anyone else having an issue with Screen Saver and Sleep mode activating.
>> If
>> I set the screen saver to come on after any amount of time, it never
>> activates. It doesn't matter how many minutes I set (1min->60mins), my
>> monitor is NOT turnning off.
>>
>> I have not been able to fix it yet. Others with MS Wireless mice have had
>> the issue. I have tried changing to Logitech mouse and keyboard. Wired
>> mouse. etc. The screen saver still does not work correctly. Sometimes it
>> comes on other times it doesn't, but mostly doesn't. If I stop the Task
>> Scheduler processes in the Task Manager (taskeng.exe) then it seems to
>> comes
>> on after the alotted time. But the task scheduler processes restart
>> themselves.
>>
>> I wish we could find the culprit and fix this.
>>
>>

One of the computers I've worked with this week is running Vista and I got
to experience the screen saver problem first hand. I did some
troubleshooting and may have found something.

First, here's a little background information. As you may know, Windows
provides a feature in which a program may disable the screen saver from
starting. This allows, for example, a media player to prevent the screen
saver from starting while the user is watching a video. It does this by
calling SystemParametersInfo() API with uiAction = SPI_SETSCREENSAVEACTIVE
and uiParam = 0 (zero). The program is then supposed to make the same call
with uiParam = 1 later when screen saving is allowed to resume. The
SystemParametersInfo() call ultimately changes the following value in the
registry:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\ScreenSaveActive

To see what was going on, I loaded up Process Monitor
(www.sysinternals.com) and watched for changes to ScreenSaveActive. Soon
after testing began, I got a hit. Explorer.EXE had changed
ScreenSaveActive to 0. This occurred right after the screen saver had
exited, the second time it had run since I logged in. Then 2 minutes
later, Explorer.EXE set ScreenSaveActive back to 1. 2 minutes happens to
be the amount of time I had set the screen saver timeout to. A little more
testing showed that the amount of time Explorer waits is directly related
to the screen saver timeout setting.

Here are the exact steps I used to reproduce the problem:
- Create a brand new profile (admin level)

- Login to test profile.
- Change screen saver timeout to 2 minutes.
- Logoff from test profile.

- Login to test profile
- Disable welcome center.
- Run Process Explorer (also from www.sysinternals.com) and verify that no
non-Microsoft DLLs are loaded into the Explorer process. There are none.
- Logoff from test profile.

- Login to test profile.
- Start Process Monitor using a filter that includes only RegSetValue
operations.
- Wait for screen saver to start.
- Move mouse.
- Wait for screen saver to start.
- Move mouse.
- Observe Explorer.EXE set ScreenSaveActive to 0.
- Wait 2 minutes.
- Observe Explorer.EXE set ScreenSaveActive to 1.

It appears that Explorer does not trust the system to properly manage the
screen saver and takes matters into its own hands by manipulating
ScreenSaveActive. I can't see why Explorer feels the need to do this, but
it poses a big problem.

Let's say Explorer sets ScreenSaveActive to 0 and starts a 10 minute wait.
If I log out during this time, the value never gets set back to 1. A
similar situation would occur if Explorer crashes during the wait. Once
the user is logged off and ScreenSaveActive is 0, screen saving won't be
back until another program turns it back on or the user makes a change in
the screen saver CPL applet.

Screen Shots
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Explorer turns screen saving off:
http://img40.imagevenue.com/img.php...urns_screen_sav
er_off_122_323lo.jpg

Explorer turns screen saving back on:
http://img17.imagevenue.com/img.php...urns_screen_sav
er_on_122_467lo.jpg

The screen saver settings:
http://img134.imagevenue.com/img.ph...ver_settings_12
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