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Old 22-03-2006, 04:11 PM   #1
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Is there a way to disable security center notifications? Or security center
altogether?

Also- I would like to remove defender- can it be done?



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Old 22-03-2006, 05:31 PM   #2
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Windows Defender cannot be uninstalled in Vista - it's linked in with the
kernel so it's a bit like removing the frontal lobe of the brain on a human!
You *can* remove Security Center notifications, but it's highly recommended
that you don't.

Go to Start > Run > services.msc > Disable the Security Center service.
However this will leave you with a permanent red shield and a notification
on startup saying that the Security Center isn't started. That's all you get
though...

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"User" <User@User.com> wrote in message
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> Is there a way to disable security center notifications? Or security
> center altogether?
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> Also- I would like to remove defender- can it be done?
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Old 22-03-2006, 07:14 PM   #3
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This is not recommended.
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"User" <User@User.com> wrote in message
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> Is there a way to disable security center notifications? Or security
> center altogether?
>
> Also- I would like to remove defender- can it be done?
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Old 22-03-2006, 10:07 PM   #4
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Definately not recommended... but still, I've done it on a standalone
machine of mine because it's only got 512MB RAM P

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"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> This is not recommended.
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> "User" <User@User.com> wrote in message
> news:eWXiiQdTGHA.4340@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Is there a way to disable security center notifications? Or security
>> center altogether?
>>
>> Also- I would like to remove defender- can it be done?
>>
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Old 23-03-2006, 02:50 AM   #5
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Are you kidding me?

Aren't we getting back to the unfair stuff here. Like IE was tied to the
Win98 Kernel, or something like that?


Thi


"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Definately not recommended... but still, I've done it on a standalone
> machine of mine because it's only got 512MB RAM P
>
> --
> Zack Whittaker
> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
> not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we
> cleared that up!
>
>
> --- Original message follows ---
> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O4NNJ1eTGHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> This is not recommended.
>> --
>> --
>> Andre
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>> "User" <User@User.com> wrote in message
>> news:eWXiiQdTGHA.4340@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> Is there a way to disable security center notifications? Or security
>>> center altogether?
>>>
>>> Also- I would like to remove defender- can it be done?
>>>
>>>
>>>

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>>

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Old 23-03-2006, 09:19 AM   #6
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Microsoft are getting pretty... obsessive about security at the moment. Can
you blame them? Hotfix here, update there, omg a WMF patch there as well...
patches patches patches all the bloody time! They're trying to do everything
they can to restore the faith of security into their users as well as not
having to release a patch every few days.

But I see what you mean though.

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--- Original message follows ---
"Sirius" <Sirius@Star.com> wrote in message
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> Are you kidding me?
>
> Aren't we getting back to the unfair stuff here. Like IE was tied to the
> Win98 Kernel, or something like that?
>
>
> Thi
>
>
> "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:%23qEVZVgTGHA.4976@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> Definately not recommended... but still, I've done it on a standalone
>> machine of mine because it's only got 512MB RAM P
>>
>> --
>> Zack Whittaker
>> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
>> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
>> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
>> not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we
>> cleared that up!
>>
>>
>> --- Original message follows ---
>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:O4NNJ1eTGHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> This is not recommended.
>>> --
>>> --
>>> Andre
>>> Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>
>>> "User" <User@User.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eWXiiQdTGHA.4340@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>> Is there a way to disable security center notifications? Or security
>>>> center altogether?
>>>>
>>>> Also- I would like to remove defender- can it be done?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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Old 23-03-2006, 02:20 PM   #7
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Its no different from CD-Burning capabilities in Windows. Its just a
fundamental right for the majority of users that Basic Security is built
into the OS in automated way. There is still a market for Norton if thats
what you are worrying about.
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"Sirius" <Sirius@Star.com> wrote in message
news:O%239VsziTGHA.5700@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Are you kidding me?
>
> Aren't we getting back to the unfair stuff here. Like IE was tied to the
> Win98 Kernel, or something like that?
>
>
> Thi
>
>
> "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:%23qEVZVgTGHA.4976@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> Definately not recommended... but still, I've done it on a standalone
>> machine of mine because it's only got 512MB RAM P
>>
>> --
>> Zack Whittaker
>> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
>> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
>> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
>> not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we
>> cleared that up!
>>
>>
>> --- Original message follows ---
>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:O4NNJ1eTGHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> This is not recommended.
>>> --
>>> --
>>> Andre
>>> Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>
>>> "User" <User@User.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eWXiiQdTGHA.4340@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>> Is there a way to disable security center notifications? Or security
>>>> center altogether?
>>>>
>>>> Also- I would like to remove defender- can it be done?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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Old 23-03-2006, 11:13 PM   #8
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Does seem a bit overzealous. I prefer to use best of breed products.
Security? Well when you're the big guy- you're gonna get hit..

Can't MS put this stuff there for me to add- or at least ask me during
install for a 'user pattern profile' in case I'm PC Security illiterate?

-- That's what I would like-

To have all this stuff there for me to add/remove at my option?
What do you think?


Btw- Having looked for a small amount of time- It looks like add/remove is
removed?

MS gave up on the AV in the early 90's- remember the purchase of Central
Point AV? Too much work and resonsibility I think was the dejur-

BTW-- What liability has MS accepted with this product's Security Suite
being part of the kernel.. I guess if I get hit (which I haven't using my
best of breed stuff under XP); and loose $$$ via a hack- what outlet for
recovery do I have? My bank assumes liability for my money - which the have
under lock and key..

I'm not ms bashing- just don't think the grab on other market areas is a $$
recovery source..
I just read that Media center is out selling all other MS OS'..

I just want to work my pc- in a way that I'm comfortable with.. That means
not realying on MS to protect it- 100%- or even 75% for that matter.

If it runs my programs- old and new, doesn't crash and looks appealing- I'm
happy.

Speed is perception- If you overeat your gonna get slow..IMHO

Disabling many services helps here least with XP; btw. Black Viper did
wonders for my XP with his service (disabling) recommendations..



Gibson Research met (http://www.grc.com )with MS on countless occassions to
warn/remedy/help with XP holes pre release- as I'm sure did many beta
testers and helpful hackers...


Has the security focus really changed in this release??



"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Its no different from CD-Burning capabilities in Windows. Its just a
> fundamental right for the majority of users that Basic Security is built
> into the OS in automated way. There is still a market for Norton if thats
> what you are worrying about.
> --
> --
> Andre
> Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com
> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>
> "Sirius" <Sirius@Star.com> wrote in message
> news:O%239VsziTGHA.5700@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Are you kidding me?
>>
>> Aren't we getting back to the unfair stuff here. Like IE was tied to the
>> Win98 Kernel, or something like that?
>>
>>
>> Thi
>>
>>
>> "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:%23qEVZVgTGHA.4976@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>> Definately not recommended... but still, I've done it on a standalone
>>> machine of mine because it's only got 512MB RAM P
>>>
>>> --
>>> Zack Whittaker
>>> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
>>> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
>>> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
>>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
>>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
>>> not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we
>>> cleared that up!
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Original message follows ---
>>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:O4NNJ1eTGHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>> This is not recommended.
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>> Andre
>>>> Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>>
>>>> "User" <User@User.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:eWXiiQdTGHA.4340@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Is there a way to disable security center notifications? Or security
>>>>> center altogether?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also- I would like to remove defender- can it be done?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
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