vista installation issues (5308)

Well decided to take the plunge and test installing on two systems
simultaneously.

In both cases I tried all three currently available betas that are on msdn
(beta1, beta2(5270), febctp(5308). The two systems are a toshiba m200 tablet
(upgraded to 1g memory, faster drive, intel 2200g wireless). The other
system started as an HP m7170n (intel 830 processor, 3g memory, ATI x1300
video card). Both systems were able to handle the first two beta products
successfully.

Both systems had critical problems with 5308. For all of the tests the hard
drives were formatted clean and then loading the target beta. No apps were
installed.

The tablet pc failed by not allowing access to the administrator account,
thus I could not configure wireless networking

The hp system failed by hanging in a loop during load with no messages.

As a general observation user installation feedback messages are abominable,
you need to put out more information as to what is happening at what stages
so we don't get the wrong impression that it has failed.

al

Can't think off the top of my head, but 5308 seems to be really problematic
for loads of people. Some people can't get past the CD-Key bit, some people
can't get things to work, I've found more bugs in this build than the first
5112!

I guess, if you have to... try reburning the download image on a slow
setting, or if the worst comes to worst, go back to 5270 because they are
still accepting bugs for that. However, you could try on of the other
versions available - Vista Business, or Longhorn Server perhaps?

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--- Original message follows ---
"Al Edlund" <edlund@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:uTRENSRRGHA.5092@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Well decided to take the plunge and test installing on two systems
> simultaneously.
>
> In both cases I tried all three currently available betas that are on msdn
> (beta1, beta2(5270), febctp(5308). The two systems are a toshiba m200
> tablet (upgraded to 1g memory, faster drive, intel 2200g wireless). The
> other system started as an HP m7170n (intel 830 processor, 3g memory, ATI
> x1300 video card). Both systems were able to handle the first two beta
> products successfully.
>
> Both systems had critical problems with 5308. For all of the tests the
> hard drives were formatted clean and then loading the target beta. No apps
> were installed.
>
> The tablet pc failed by not allowing access to the administrator account,
> thus I could not configure wireless networking
>
> The hp system failed by hanging in a loop during load with no messages.
>
> As a general observation user installation feedback messages are
> abominable, you need to put out more information as to what is happening
> at what stages so we don't get the wrong impression that it has failed.
>
> al
>
>

You are likely get the same issues with Longhorn Server or another SKU,
remember, all are based on the same SKU. I noticed that in Ultimate Edition
my sound card was detected and installed, in Home Premium and Home Basic,
its not.
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"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:%23oI1cVSRGHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Can't think off the top of my head, but 5308 seems to be really
> problematic for loads of people. Some people can't get past the CD-Key
> bit, some people can't get things to work, I've found more bugs in this
> build than the first 5112!
>
> I guess, if you have to... try reburning the download image on a slow
> setting, or if the worst comes to worst, go back to 5270 because they are
> still accepting bugs for that. However, you could try on of the other
> versions available - Vista Business, or Longhorn Server perhaps?
>
> --
> Zack Whittaker
> Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor)
> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
> » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net
> » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum
> » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase
> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
> not
> of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
>
>
> --- Original message follows ---
> "Al Edlund" <edlund@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> news:uTRENSRRGHA.5092@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> Well decided to take the plunge and test installing on two systems
>> simultaneously.
>>
>> In both cases I tried all three currently available betas that are on
>> msdn (beta1, beta2(5270), febctp(5308). The two systems are a toshiba
>> m200 tablet (upgraded to 1g memory, faster drive, intel 2200g wireless).
>> The other system started as an HP m7170n (intel 830 processor, 3g memory,
>> ATI x1300 video card). Both systems were able to handle the first two
>> beta products successfully.
>>
>> Both systems had critical problems with 5308. For all of the tests the
>> hard drives were formatted clean and then loading the target beta. No
>> apps were installed.
>>
>> The tablet pc failed by not allowing access to the administrator account,
>> thus I could not configure wireless networking
>>
>> The hp system failed by hanging in a loop during load with no messages.
>>
>> As a general observation user installation feedback messages are
>> abominable, you need to put out more information as to what is happening
>> at what stages so we don't get the wrong impression that it has failed.
>>
>> al
>>
>>
>
>

Ahh... you see, with 5270, I tried Vista and Glass didn't work. I then tried
Longhorn Server (I'm a server sorta guy to be honest!) and whaddya know,
Glass works! Did absolutely nothing to the hardware, BIOS or anything, it
just worked by default.

It even works now on Vista client, so I'm all round uber-happy ) Yay!

--
Zack Whittaker
Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor)
» ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
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» VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase
» This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not
of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!


--- Original message follows ---
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> You are likely get the same issues with Longhorn Server or another SKU,
> remember, all are based on the same SKU. I noticed that in Ultimate
> Edition my sound card was detected and installed, in Home Premium and Home
> Basic, its not.
> --
> --
> Andre
> Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com
> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
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> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>
> "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:%23oI1cVSRGHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> Can't think off the top of my head, but 5308 seems to be really
>> problematic for loads of people. Some people can't get past the CD-Key
>> bit, some people can't get things to work, I've found more bugs in this
>> build than the first 5112!
>>
>> I guess, if you have to... try reburning the download image on a slow
>> setting, or if the worst comes to worst, go back to 5270 because they are
>> still accepting bugs for that. However, you could try on of the other
>> versions available - Vista Business, or Longhorn Server perhaps?
>>
>> --
>> Zack Whittaker
>> Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor)
>> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
>> » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net
>> » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum
>> » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase
>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
>> not
>> of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
>>
>>
>> --- Original message follows ---
>> "Al Edlund" <edlund@ameritech.net> wrote in message
>> news:uTRENSRRGHA.5092@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>> Well decided to take the plunge and test installing on two systems
>>> simultaneously.
>>>
>>> In both cases I tried all three currently available betas that are on
>>> msdn (beta1, beta2(5270), febctp(5308). The two systems are a toshiba
>>> m200 tablet (upgraded to 1g memory, faster drive, intel 2200g wireless).
>>> The other system started as an HP m7170n (intel 830 processor, 3g
>>> memory, ATI x1300 video card). Both systems were able to handle the
>>> first two beta products successfully.
>>>
>>> Both systems had critical problems with 5308. For all of the tests the
>>> hard drives were formatted clean and then loading the target beta. No
>>> apps were installed.
>>>
>>> The tablet pc failed by not allowing access to the administrator
>>> account, thus I could not configure wireless networking
>>>
>>> The hp system failed by hanging in a loop during load with no messages.
>>>
>>> As a general observation user installation feedback messages are
>>> abominable, you need to put out more information as to what is happening
>>> at what stages so we don't get the wrong impression that it has failed.
>>>
>>> al
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Have you promoted LH Server 5308 as a Domain Controller and and connect
Vista 5308 (Domain Join)? I am having issues, its giving me some stinking
error about WINs service, DNS is working just fine, I let it set that up
automatically. User account has already been setup in AD.
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"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:euMovZTRGHA.1780@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Ahh... you see, with 5270, I tried Vista and Glass didn't work. I then
> tried Longhorn Server (I'm a server sorta guy to be honest!) and whaddya
> know, Glass works! Did absolutely nothing to the hardware, BIOS or
> anything, it just worked by default.
>
> It even works now on Vista client, so I'm all round uber-happy ) Yay!
>
> --
> Zack Whittaker
> Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor)
> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
> » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net
> » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum
> » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase
> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
> not
> of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
>
>
> --- Original message follows ---
> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uL3iPDTRGHA.3192@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> You are likely get the same issues with Longhorn Server or another SKU,
>> remember, all are based on the same SKU. I noticed that in Ultimate
>> Edition my sound card was detected and installed, in Home Premium and
>> Home Basic, its not.
>> --
>> --
>> Andre
>> Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>
>> "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:%23oI1cVSRGHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> Can't think off the top of my head, but 5308 seems to be really
>>> problematic for loads of people. Some people can't get past the CD-Key
>>> bit, some people can't get things to work, I've found more bugs in this
>>> build than the first 5112!
>>>
>>> I guess, if you have to... try reburning the download image on a slow
>>> setting, or if the worst comes to worst, go back to 5270 because they
>>> are still accepting bugs for that. However, you could try on of the
>>> other versions available - Vista Business, or Longhorn Server perhaps?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Zack Whittaker
>>> Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor)
>>> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
>>> » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net
>>> » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum
>>> » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase
>>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
>>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
>>> not
>>> of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Original message follows ---
>>> "Al Edlund" <edlund@ameritech.net> wrote in message
>>> news:uTRENSRRGHA.5092@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>> Well decided to take the plunge and test installing on two systems
>>>> simultaneously.
>>>>
>>>> In both cases I tried all three currently available betas that are on
>>>> msdn (beta1, beta2(5270), febctp(5308). The two systems are a toshiba
>>>> m200 tablet (upgraded to 1g memory, faster drive, intel 2200g
>>>> wireless). The other system started as an HP m7170n (intel 830
>>>> processor, 3g memory, ATI x1300 video card). Both systems were able to
>>>> handle the first two beta products successfully.
>>>>
>>>> Both systems had critical problems with 5308. For all of the tests the
>>>> hard drives were formatted clean and then loading the target beta. No
>>>> apps were installed.
>>>>
>>>> The tablet pc failed by not allowing access to the administrator
>>>> account, thus I could not configure wireless networking
>>>>
>>>> The hp system failed by hanging in a loop during load with no messages.
>>>>
>>>> As a general observation user installation feedback messages are
>>>> abominable, you need to put out more information as to what is
>>>> happening at what stages so we don't get the wrong impression that it
>>>> has failed.
>>>>
>>>> al
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

I am also having problems getting 5308 to work on a tablet PC, this one is a
Compaq tc4200.

My first attempt was to upgrade from XP Pro (Tablet edition) and was a total
disaster. It would not boot at all, but hung after the intial splash screen.

I did a clean install, formatting the hard drive NTFS. Now it boots, and the
most frequent symptom is to display the Taskbar and a few desktop icons then
bluescreen with "Bugcheck 7e, parameters 0x80000003, 0x8150455a, 0x85610938,
0x85610634"

Next, I booted into Safe Mode, and using the HP Drivers CD, I installed all
of the drivers (XP versions of course) for the devices that were not working.
That bought me a few minutes running in normal mode, then (even if I do
nothing on the machine) any or all of Windows Explorer, Host Services, or
Task Scheduler quit working, and (sometimes) restart themselves. Finally,
the BSOD appears.

Any help, hints, etc. will be welcome!

Walt