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Old 15-09-2006, 04:07 PM   #1
Rob R. Ainscough
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Serious, what is going on a M$ these days, Vista RC1 is terrible. Mac OS X
is already better is so many areas -- with Intel Core 2 and Mac OS X --
hmmm.... can this be the real threat to M$ buggy, worky, unsecure OS?

First time in my life where I've serious considered going with an Intel Core
2 based Mac. The performance gap has been significantly reduced -- now if
they can get more hardware vendors onboard they could become series about
displacing M$.


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Old 15-09-2006, 04:17 PM   #2
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Rob R. Ainscough wrote:
> Serious, what is going on a M$ these days, Vista RC1 is terrible. Mac OS X
> is already better is so many areas -- with Intel Core 2 and Mac OS X --
> hmmm.... can this be the real threat to M$ buggy, worky, unsecure OS?
>
> First time in my life where I've serious considered going with an Intel Core
> 2 based Mac. The performance gap has been significantly reduced -- now if
> they can get more hardware vendors onboard they could become series about
> displacing M$.
>
>

What is M$???
Frank
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Old 15-09-2006, 04:18 PM   #3
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Go, then.


"Rob R. Ainscough" <robains@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> Serious, what is going on a M$ these days, Vista RC1 is terrible. Mac OS
> X is already better is so many areas -- with Intel Core 2 and Mac OS X --
> hmmm.... can this be the real threat to M$ buggy, worky, unsecure OS?
>
> First time in my life where I've serious considered going with an Intel
> Core 2 based Mac. The performance gap has been significantly reduced --
> now if they can get more hardware vendors onboard they could become series
> about displacing M$.
>


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Old 15-09-2006, 04:27 PM   #4
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What a troll.

I really likeMac OS X and I think Vista is amazing too. In fact Mac OSX was
the best OS for me until I tryed Vista RC1. Now is the second. :-). But
going into a Microsoft news server to say buy a Mac has only one name...
TROLL!!!

"Rob R. Ainscough" <robains@pacbell.net> escribió en el mensaje
news:uqXFHEO2GHA.1256@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Serious, what is going on a M$ these days, Vista RC1 is terrible. Mac OS
> X is already better is so many areas -- with Intel Core 2 and Mac OS X --
> hmmm.... can this be the real threat to M$ buggy, worky, unsecure OS?
>
> First time in my life where I've serious considered going with an Intel
> Core 2 based Mac. The performance gap has been significantly reduced --
> now if they can get more hardware vendors onboard they could become series
> about displacing M$.
>



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Old 15-09-2006, 04:57 PM   #5
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Rob, you sound like the Mac kinda man, go buy a Mac.


"Rob R. Ainscough" <robains@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> Serious, what is going on a M$ these days, Vista RC1 is terrible. Mac OS
> X is already better is so many areas -- with Intel Core 2 and Mac OS X --
> hmmm.... can this be the real threat to M$ buggy, worky, unsecure OS?
>
> First time in my life where I've serious considered going with an Intel
> Core 2 based Mac. The performance gap has been significantly reduced --
> now if they can get more hardware vendors onboard they could become series
> about displacing M$.
>


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Old 15-09-2006, 04:58 PM   #6
Rob R. Ainscough
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M$ = Microsoft (revenue - take it or take it some more)

Troll = as if Microsoft are actually listening or even care, oh please

Give me your public IP and I'll show you bad Vista's security really is.

Ok -- bless me with why you find Vista RC1 so much better than the OS X
and/or WinXP?

"Angel Massa" <angel2@puntweb.com> wrote in message
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> What a troll.
>
> I really likeMac OS X and I think Vista is amazing too. In fact Mac OSX
> was the best OS for me until I tryed Vista RC1. Now is the second. :-).
> But going into a Microsoft news server to say buy a Mac has only one
> name... TROLL!!!
>
> "Rob R. Ainscough" <robains@pacbell.net> escribió en el mensaje
> news:uqXFHEO2GHA.1256@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Serious, what is going on a M$ these days, Vista RC1 is terrible. Mac OS
>> X is already better is so many areas -- with Intel Core 2 and Mac OS X --
>> hmmm.... can this be the real threat to M$ buggy, worky, unsecure OS?
>>
>> First time in my life where I've serious considered going with an Intel
>> Core 2 based Mac. The performance gap has been significantly reduced --
>> now if they can get more hardware vendors onboard they could become
>> series about displacing M$.
>>

>
>



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Old 15-09-2006, 05:17 PM   #7
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The best trollers are those who complain about a product without really
saying what they're complaining about.
<3

"Rob R. Ainscough" wrote:

> Serious, what is going on a M$ these days, Vista RC1 is terrible. Mac OS X
> is already better is so many areas -- with Intel Core 2 and Mac OS X --
> hmmm.... can this be the real threat to M$ buggy, worky, unsecure OS?
>
> First time in my life where I've serious considered going with an Intel Core
> 2 based Mac. The performance gap has been significantly reduced -- now if
> they can get more hardware vendors onboard they could become series about
> displacing M$.
>
>
>

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Old 15-09-2006, 05:22 PM   #8
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I totally disagree with the statement that Microsoft is not listening or caring what the users think. They have slimed down UAC a lot since the public beta 2. Granted it still has some more to go. They have added a lot of support with drivers. Granted there is a ways to go on that end too.

I have not used Mac OS X, but as far as XP, there are several things about Vista I like better.
a.. Improved firewall
b.. Basic Parental Controls
c.. Bitlocker
d.. Graphics
e.. Windows Meeting Space
f.. Build in Windows Defender
g.. Improved Backup system
Granted I have friends that use MAC OS X, but from what I have shown them of RC1, they are impressed with the improvements. Granted, they are sticking with the Apple, but they may use Vista on there Intel based Macs.

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"Rob R. Ainscough" <robains@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:OnwzogO2GHA.1256@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
M$ = Microsoft (revenue - take it or take it some more)

Troll = as if Microsoft are actually listening or even care, oh please

Give me your public IP and I'll show you bad Vista's security really is.

Ok -- bless me with why you find Vista RC1 so much better than the OS X
and/or WinXP?

"Angel Massa" <angel2@puntweb.com> wrote in message
news:e2$yLPO2GHA.4976@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> What a troll.
>
> I really likeMac OS X and I think Vista is amazing too. In fact Mac OSX
> was the best OS for me until I tryed Vista RC1. Now is the second. :-).
> But going into a Microsoft news server to say buy a Mac has only one
> name... TROLL!!!
>
> "Rob R. Ainscough" <robains@pacbell.net> escribió en el mensaje
> news:uqXFHEO2GHA.1256@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Serious, what is going on a M$ these days, Vista RC1 is terrible. Mac OS
>> X is already better is so many areas -- with Intel Core 2 and Mac OS X --
>> hmmm.... can this be the real threat to M$ buggy, worky, unsecure OS?
>>
>> First time in my life where I've serious considered going with an Intel
>> Core 2 based Mac. The performance gap has been significantly reduced --
>> now if they can get more hardware vendors onboard they could become
>> series about displacing M$.
>>

>
>



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Old 15-09-2006, 05:37 PM   #9
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My guess is that M$ may be similar to O$ X.

William
"Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message news:OsVJgJO2GHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Rob R. Ainscough wrote:
> Serious, what is going on a M$ these days, Vista RC1 is terrible. Mac OS X
> is already better is so many areas -- with Intel Core 2 and Mac OS X --
> hmmm.... can this be the real threat to M$ buggy, worky, unsecure OS?
>
> First time in my life where I've serious considered going with an Intel Core
> 2 based Mac. The performance gap has been significantly reduced -- now if
> they can get more hardware vendors onboard they could become series about
> displacing M$.
>
>

What is M$???
Frank
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Old 15-09-2006, 05:58 PM   #10
Rob R. Ainscough
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So much to list, let me see...

1. Security, you can still get in under Admin if you crash an admin service
2. Still have to know whether or not it is safe to uninstall "shared"
components
3. Applications gray out when port access is needed -- ok, so how is the a
major change over the "block/unblock" message in XP SP2?
4. Windows Defender exists for XP, it is just as useless at blocking
spyware/adware in Vista -- free products like SpyBot S&D and Adware (lava
soft) are considerably better and actually do something
5. Improved in what sense? I have yet been able to restore a backup from
scratch -- this is not useful at all
6. Graphics, yes they are better -- caught up with OS X finally
7. Parental Controls -- again this is available via XP SP2, just harder to
setup right

Now on to the real problems:

1. Vista is still brain dead about threading on multi-CPU systems -- OMG I
can't believe they didn't address this problem considering that dual core
procs are the norm these days.
2. Timings are still off (good luck to anyone serious about Music
composition)
3. Can't seem to scale to available memory (just as lame as XP) in an
intelligent manner
4. .NET 2.0 apps crash big time
5. Is DX10 implemented yet -- looks more like a slightly modified DX9c
implementation

Mac OS X is certainly not the end all be all, but with Intel support and OS
XI due out next year -- I'm seeing some hurt put on M$.

Ok, so who is listening? Anyone that actually has some say in what M$
produces -- if so, why do we still have Vista which just isn't enough for 5+
years of work over XP.

Come on people, get over the flashy new graphics and take a serious look at
what you have in Vista RC1. This is a joke, purely revenue generation with
very little to NO value added features.

Rob.


"Jonathan MacCollum" <JonathanMacCollum@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
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> The best trollers are those who complain about a product without really
> saying what they're complaining about.
> <3
>
> "Rob R. Ainscough" wrote:
>
>> Serious, what is going on a M$ these days, Vista RC1 is terrible. Mac OS
>> X
>> is already better is so many areas -- with Intel Core 2 and Mac OS X --
>> hmmm.... can this be the real threat to M$ buggy, worky, unsecure OS?
>>
>> First time in my life where I've serious considered going with an Intel
>> Core
>> 2 based Mac. The performance gap has been significantly reduced -- now
>> if
>> they can get more hardware vendors onboard they could become series about
>> displacing M$.
>>
>>
>>



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