Hauppauge WinTV PVR USB

Anybody have success getting a WinTV PVR USB to work. This hardware was
iffy in XP and Hauppauge had an update for it's software. I doubt that they
will support this device in Vista......sigh! It was $250.00 when I bought
it. The story I am getting from both hardware and software vendors is they
won't have updated drivers or programs that work with Vista until it's final
release. HOW SHORT SIGHTED! And more over AOL doesn't even have a beta for
Vista, so what are 8 to 10 million people going to do when Vista is
released. Personally I don't think MS is going to make it's early 2007 goal
although the OS seems stable enough. I would hate to be in their call
center if released without a resonable amount of vendors having taken
Vista's release seriously and provide working drivers. Really!! not even
the usuall Anti Virus programs work. That's just a sin.

I love the new look and feel of Vista, but think because more than 1/2 of my
software and many devices don't work, I'll just go back to XP. Not much to
do with a new operating system that only Office and some assorted programs
work with. The upgrage advisor only mentioned 2 problems so I was excited
to instal Beta 2. : (

Flip

"Phillip Schlueter" <pschlueter@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:4A6C30CA-9908-45CC-99FC-0B57E54FB386@microsoft.com...
> Anybody have success getting a WinTV PVR USB to work. This hardware was
> iffy in XP and Hauppauge had an update for it's software. I doubt that
> they will support this device in Vista......sigh! It was $250.00 when I
> bought it. The story I am getting from both hardware and software vendors
> is they won't have updated drivers or programs that work with Vista until
> it's final release. HOW SHORT SIGHTED! And more over AOL doesn't even
> have a beta for Vista, so what are 8 to 10 million people going to do when
> Vista is released. Personally I don't think MS is going to make it's
> early 2007 goal although the OS seems stable enough. I would hate to be
> in their call center if released without a resonable amount of vendors
> having taken Vista's release seriously and provide working drivers.
> Really!! not even the usuall Anti Virus programs work. That's just a sin.
>
> I love the new look and feel of Vista, but think because more than 1/2 of
> my software and many devices don't work, I'll just go back to XP. Not
> much to do with a new operating system that only Office and some assorted
> programs work with. The upgrage advisor only mentioned 2 problems so I
> was excited to instal Beta 2. : (
>
> Flip

Do you mean the PVR USB2? Haven't tried it in Vista yet, but it is rock
solid reliable in XP. I use two of them every day. You just have to get
the right drivers (rarely the latest ones).

If you need any help in XP, just write me privately and I can get it to work
for you.

As for the rest of your post, this is why Vista is BETA!

Tom

Flip,

Be patient. Vendors jump at the chance to get their drivers on Microsoft
OSes.

Mario

"Phillip Schlueter" <pschlueter@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:4A6C30CA-9908-45CC-99FC-0B57E54FB386@microsoft.com...
> Anybody have success getting a WinTV PVR USB to work. This hardware was
> iffy in XP and Hauppauge had an update for it's software. I doubt that
> they will support this device in Vista......sigh! It was $250.00 when I
> bought it. The story I am getting from both hardware and software vendors
> is they won't have updated drivers or programs that work with Vista until
> it's final release. HOW SHORT SIGHTED! And more over AOL doesn't even
> have a beta for Vista, so what are 8 to 10 million people going to do when
> Vista is released. Personally I don't think MS is going to make it's
> early 2007 goal although the OS seems stable enough. I would hate to be
> in their call center if released without a resonable amount of vendors
> having taken Vista's release seriously and provide working drivers.
> Really!! not even the usuall Anti Virus programs work. That's just a sin.
>
> I love the new look and feel of Vista, but think because more than 1/2 of
> my software and many devices don't work, I'll just go back to XP. Not
> much to do with a new operating system that only Office and some assorted
> programs work with. The upgrage advisor only mentioned 2 problems so I
> was excited to instal Beta 2. : (
>
> Flip

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:29:36 -0400, "Phillip Schlueter"
<pschlueter@adelphia.net> wrote:

>Anybody have success getting a WinTV PVR USB to work. This hardware was
>iffy in XP and Hauppauge had an update for it's software. I doubt that they
>will support this device in Vista......sigh! It was $250.00 when I bought
>it. The story I am getting from both hardware and software vendors is they
>won't have updated drivers or programs that work with Vista until it's final
>release. HOW SHORT SIGHTED! And more over AOL doesn't even have a beta for
>Vista, so what are 8 to 10 million people going to do when Vista is
>released. Personally I don't think MS is going to make it's early 2007 goal
>although the OS seems stable enough. I would hate to be in their call
>center if released without a resonable amount of vendors having taken
>Vista's release seriously and provide working drivers. Really!! not even
>the usuall Anti Virus programs work. That's just a sin.
>
>I love the new look and feel of Vista, but think because more than 1/2 of my
>software and many devices don't work, I'll just go back to XP. Not much to
>do with a new operating system that only Office and some assorted programs
>work with. The upgrage advisor only mentioned 2 problems so I was excited
>to instal Beta 2. : (
>
>Flip

I got 2 Hauppage PCI cards in XP machines and an older version I may
just try in Vista. Drivers for Hauppage have always been a pain in the
arse so I am not expecting a success but I will give it a go after the
footie and report back later. Don't know about USB versions though
haven't got one.

Jonah

"Mario Rosario" <mario@webacre.com> wrote in message
news:639B8FB0-2C77-4C45-89C4-0597CF51ABDC@microsoft.com...
> Flip,
>
> Be patient. Vendors jump at the chance to get their drivers on Microsoft
> OSes.

Tell that to HP and Canon. They must have mislaid the memo.

Did you try their Vista drivers? Did they not work? What did support say
about them? Are you trying to run on x86 or x64?
http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/support/vista.html


"Jonah" <jonah@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:51lo9294b8jq73s5rukn25jd1q3u7s63r3@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:29:36 -0400, "Phillip Schlueter"
> <pschlueter@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>>Anybody have success getting a WinTV PVR USB to work. This hardware was
>>iffy in XP and Hauppauge had an update for it's software. I doubt that
>>they
>>will support this device in Vista......sigh! It was $250.00 when I bought
>>it. The story I am getting from both hardware and software vendors is
>>they
>>won't have updated drivers or programs that work with Vista until it's
>>final
>>release. HOW SHORT SIGHTED! And more over AOL doesn't even have a beta
>>for
>>Vista, so what are 8 to 10 million people going to do when Vista is
>>released. Personally I don't think MS is going to make it's early 2007
>>goal
>>although the OS seems stable enough. I would hate to be in their call
>>center if released without a resonable amount of vendors having taken
>>Vista's release seriously and provide working drivers. Really!! not even
>>the usuall Anti Virus programs work. That's just a sin.
>>
>>I love the new look and feel of Vista, but think because more than 1/2 of
>>my
>>software and many devices don't work, I'll just go back to XP. Not much
>>to
>>do with a new operating system that only Office and some assorted programs
>>work with. The upgrage advisor only mentioned 2 problems so I was excited
>>to instal Beta 2. : (
>>
>>Flip
>
> I got 2 Hauppage PCI cards in XP machines and an older version I may
> just try in Vista. Drivers for Hauppage have always been a pain in the
> arse so I am not expecting a success but I will give it a go after the
> footie and report back later. Don't know about USB versions though
> haven't got one.
>
> Jonah

I got 2 Hauppauge PCI cards in a box in storage.

"Jonah" <jonah@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:51lo9294b8jq73s5rukn25jd1q3u7s63r3@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:29:36 -0400, "Phillip Schlueter"
> <pschlueter@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>>Anybody have success getting a WinTV PVR USB to work. This hardware was
>>iffy in XP and Hauppauge had an update for it's software. I doubt that
>>they
>>will support this device in Vista......sigh! It was $250.00 when I bought
>>it. The story I am getting from both hardware and software vendors is
>>they
>>won't have updated drivers or programs that work with Vista until it's
>>final
>>release. HOW SHORT SIGHTED! And more over AOL doesn't even have a beta
>>for
>>Vista, so what are 8 to 10 million people going to do when Vista is
>>released. Personally I don't think MS is going to make it's early 2007
>>goal
>>although the OS seems stable enough. I would hate to be in their call
>>center if released without a resonable amount of vendors having taken
>>Vista's release seriously and provide working drivers. Really!! not even
>>the usuall Anti Virus programs work. That's just a sin.
>>
>>I love the new look and feel of Vista, but think because more than 1/2 of
>>my
>>software and many devices don't work, I'll just go back to XP. Not much
>>to
>>do with a new operating system that only Office and some assorted programs
>>work with. The upgrage advisor only mentioned 2 problems so I was excited
>>to instal Beta 2. : (
>>
>>Flip
>
> I got 2 Hauppage PCI cards in XP machines and an older version I may
> just try in Vista. Drivers for Hauppage have always been a pain in the
> arse so I am not expecting a success but I will give it a go after the
> footie and report back later. Don't know about USB versions though
> haven't got one.
>
> Jonah

> As for the rest of your post, this is why Vista is BETA!

Sorry Tom, my point is if software and devices don't even work at all--what
is there to test. I'm already bored with it. If we have to wait for 6
months to a year to get the most common hardware to work MS will never get
the bugs outta Vista and I've been testing MS products since Win 95 and the
old MSN in the days they thought they could compete with other online
services. Some of the vendors I have spoken to claim they are not
developing drivers or new software until the code is not going to change,
claiming it's a waste of their time. I have to believe they have had access
to Vista for quite some time and are way behind not to have their own betas.
I'd be willing to work with pre-bata's rather then have completely
non-functional hard and software. I have 4 other computers so I'm not
crippled.

P.S. The drivers that came with my WinTV PVR USB (ver 1.2) didn't work at
all in XP. The version that is currently available and has not been
upgraded ever were a problem in XP if you even sneezed near the box.

Flip

"Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OtBRDWwlGHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> "Phillip Schlueter" <pschlueter@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:4A6C30CA-9908-45CC-99FC-0B57E54FB386@microsoft.com...
>> Anybody have success getting a WinTV PVR USB to work. This hardware was
>> iffy in XP and Hauppauge had an update for it's software. I doubt that
>> they will support this device in Vista......sigh! It was $250.00 when I
>> bought it. The story I am getting from both hardware and software
>> vendors is they won't have updated drivers or programs that work with
>> Vista until it's final release. HOW SHORT SIGHTED! And more over AOL
>> doesn't even have a beta for Vista, so what are 8 to 10 million people
>> going to do when Vista is released. Personally I don't think MS is going
>> to make it's early 2007 goal although the OS seems stable enough. I
>> would hate to be in their call center if released without a resonable
>> amount of vendors having taken Vista's release seriously and provide
>> working drivers. Really!! not even the usuall Anti Virus programs work.
>> That's just a sin.
>>
>> I love the new look and feel of Vista, but think because more than 1/2 of
>> my software and many devices don't work, I'll just go back to XP. Not
>> much to do with a new operating system that only Office and some assorted
>> programs work with. The upgrage advisor only mentioned 2 problems so I
>> was excited to instal Beta 2. : (
>>
>> Flip
>
> Do you mean the PVR USB2? Haven't tried it in Vista yet, but it is rock
> solid reliable in XP. I use two of them every day. You just have to get
> the right drivers (rarely the latest ones).
>
> If you need any help in XP, just write me privately and I can get it to
> work for you.
>
> As for the rest of your post, this is why Vista is BETA!
>
> Tom
>

....but it is the truth. The code IS changing...many/most/some drivers
written for Beta1 of Vista no longer work under Beta2.(Creative...)

Officiallly this beta is not for end users, it is supposed to be for
technology professionals to test for implementation.

I would love for all my stuff to work also, but I am not going to blame the
hardware vendors for not jumping through hoops to get their consumer
products up and running for Beta2.



"Phillip Schlueter" <pschlueter@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:CC20E916-F59E-4D74-A060-EADAC06E6643@microsoft.com...
>> As for the rest of your post, this is why Vista is BETA!
>
> Sorry Tom, my point is if software and devices don't even work at
> all--what is there to test. I'm already bored with it. If we have to
> wait for 6 months to a year to get the most common hardware to work MS
> will never get the bugs outta Vista and I've been testing MS products
> since Win 95 and the old MSN in the days they thought they could compete
> with other online services. Some of the vendors I have spoken to claim
> they are not developing drivers or new software until the code is not
> going to change, claiming it's a waste of their time. I have to believe
> they have had access to Vista for quite some time and are way behind not
> to have their own betas. I'd be willing to work with pre-bata's rather
> then have completely non-functional hard and software. I have 4 other
> computers so I'm not crippled.
>
> P.S. The drivers that came with my WinTV PVR USB (ver 1.2) didn't work at
> all in XP. The version that is currently available and has not been
> upgraded ever were a problem in XP if you even sneezed near the box.
>
> Flip
>
> "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OtBRDWwlGHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Phillip Schlueter" <pschlueter@adelphia.net> wrote in message
>> news:4A6C30CA-9908-45CC-99FC-0B57E54FB386@microsoft.com...
>>> Anybody have success getting a WinTV PVR USB to work. This hardware was
>>> iffy in XP and Hauppauge had an update for it's software. I doubt that
>>> they will support this device in Vista......sigh! It was $250.00 when I
>>> bought it. The story I am getting from both hardware and software
>>> vendors is they won't have updated drivers or programs that work with
>>> Vista until it's final release. HOW SHORT SIGHTED! And more over AOL
>>> doesn't even have a beta for Vista, so what are 8 to 10 million people
>>> going to do when Vista is released. Personally I don't think MS is
>>> going to make it's early 2007 goal although the OS seems stable enough.
>>> I would hate to be in their call center if released without a resonable
>>> amount of vendors having taken Vista's release seriously and provide
>>> working drivers. Really!! not even the usuall Anti Virus programs work.
>>> That's just a sin.
>>>
>>> I love the new look and feel of Vista, but think because more than 1/2
>>> of my software and many devices don't work, I'll just go back to XP.
>>> Not much to do with a new operating system that only Office and some
>>> assorted programs work with. The upgrage advisor only mentioned 2
>>> problems so I was excited to instal Beta 2. : (
>>>
>>> Flip
>>
>> Do you mean the PVR USB2? Haven't tried it in Vista yet, but it is rock
>> solid reliable in XP. I use two of them every day. You just have to get
>> the right drivers (rarely the latest ones).
>>
>> If you need any help in XP, just write me privately and I can get it to
>> work for you.
>>
>> As for the rest of your post, this is why Vista is BETA!
>>
>> Tom
>>
>

Peter,

It is not easy to get drivers to work in a 50 million lines of code
Operating System. Even if you work for HP or Canon.

Mario

"Peter M" <pmcneil1@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
news:%23nWbimwlGHA.4512@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> "Mario Rosario" <mario@webacre.com> wrote in message
> news:639B8FB0-2C77-4C45-89C4-0597CF51ABDC@microsoft.com...
>> Flip,
>>
>> Be patient. Vendors jump at the chance to get their drivers on Microsoft
>> OSes.
>
> Tell that to HP and Canon. They must have mislaid the memo.